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    We all kept hoping his shooting would recover by the end of the season. No such luck. His 3pt average percentage dropped by a staggering 8.6% this year. Previous averages were over 41% and this year .332%. When something like that happens over an entire season, there has to be a reason and a serious reason. Some past players with such a dropoff had eyesight problems, drug problems or too much partying problems or the effect of a big contract. The eyes can be tested and probably fixed by treatment. The other problems not so much.

    I've also noticed a lack of focus and sporadic lack of effort on defense. Something is ed up in this young man's head.

    Damn, ST is getting a lot of good takes today - without the usual cast of jackasses screaming them down for no apparent reason.

    I'll take it as an omen. If the Spurs players pick up their game as much as ST is, we'll get to celebrate #6.

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    The problem is, in '13 he shot .666 in the first 5 games of the Finals. Then he shot .182 in the last two games.
    In Game 6, he was 1-5 from 3P and 0-2 from 2P. In Game 7, he was 1-6 from 3P, and 0-6 from 2P. The Spurs lost those two games by 3 and 7 points, respectively. Danny had been blistering the 3P line before that, so his combined numbers look good. But his collapse in the Finals mirrors the Spurs demise.

    Last playoffs, against the Clips, he had decent games in three contests (one of the losses). But in four games (three of the losses), he was a combined 3-23 from the 3P line. That was a tough first round matchup for the Spurs, and there was plenty of blame to go around. But if Danny had made just a few shots in those games, and forced the Clippers defense to respect his shot, we would have at least gotten to see a second round last year.
    Depressing but accurate. Green is a consistent choker and playoff under-achiever. "But this time, it'll be different."
    I understand the the playoffs are the second season, but it's not likely that this leopard will change his spots, unfortunately.

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    This. I remember the Heat blitzing 13' MVParker on picks and him finding Green open, or finding the guy who will give Green the open shot.

    We go as far as Parker leads us
    Last I checked, Porky wasn't on the court when the Spurs basically won the most important game of the 2014 run at OKC.

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    Horford would be nice if he was a little bigger
    Horford used to be a decent rebounder before his pectoral injuries, now he's D-West status.

    Otherwise, he's a perfect small-ball PF/C.(Horford/Millsap are the best small-ball frontline except they get crushed by traditional frontlines)

    Teague might be overrated but I think he's a solid PG that would do well in SA.
    Teague is as good as 2014 Porker so I wouldn't mind him for the right price.

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    Last I checked, Porky wasn't on the court when the Spurs basically won the most important game of the 2014 run at OKC.
    Neither was Kiwi, tbh besides one game

    The GOATPF carrying scrubs, per par

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    The guy is number 5 in career 3% in the finals and 2 in active players. Which puts him 29!!! and 9 spots ahead of Curry. Pretty similar for playoff stats too. People seem to forget that Danny can very quickly start shooting just as lights out as Curry. He'll bounce back.
    Wow...
    You might have the heart of the truest believer.

    I hope you are right, because i think his shot will not be fixed this year.

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    Please come back Danny (the good you, not the version of you) we need you! Come out come out wherever you are! I hope he goes off and knocks down 11 long bombs in game 1 and it all starts from there. He is so important when he's on. We had our best record ever with Danny sucking all season. Imagine how good we could be if he gets his form back. Go Danny!!!!!

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    Green has had virtually the same % of open shots this season as past seasons, tbh..last season, which was Parker's worst season in his NBA career, was Green's best RS in the NBA..


    Trading him while his stock is at rock bottom would be pretty stupid..it makes much more sense to see if this year's shooting woes are an anomaly, since there's literally nobody the Spurs could get for the same price that could replicate 2013-2015 Green..
    Highly unlikely to find, but not like that player isn't out there. Calling Jon Diebler...

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    Should they? Yes

    Will they? Doubt it.

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    Trading him after one ty year while his value is at its absolute lowest would be pretty stupid I can't imagine the Spurs would trade him this offseason (barring some incredible offer you can't pass up, but that won't happen given the season Green has had), regardless of what he does in the playoffs.

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    Danny only takes one shot tonight - but he drained it. in' defense, including 3 steals. That's a good start.

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    Danny played well on defense during the majority of his stint. He was open, but offense was groggy. Good news is he hit his only shot, but this will definitely be a series where DG gets some shots up. MEM gives up too many 3's for Danny not to get shots.

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    Danny played well on defense during the majority of his stint. He was open, but offense was groggy. Good news is he hit his only shot, but this will definitely be a series where DG gets some shots up. MEM gives up too many 3's for Danny not to get shots.
    Danny likes men

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    The bright side is that Danny is shooting 3s at 100% in the playoffs.

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    If SA wants to trade Danny, how he does in the playoffs is irrelevant. He's established his game already, and he's a known quan y that the Spurs need and could get a good offer for. They won't trade him.

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    Danny played well on defense during the majority of his stint. He was open, but offense was groggy. Good news is he hit his only shot, but this will definitely be a series where DG gets some shots up. MEM gives up too many 3's for Danny not to get shots.
    Why wasn't he getting as many shots?. I was in an out after the first quarter and came back in the 3rd when the game got in garbage time. I feel like Mills and Martin got the most 3s in garbage time.

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    Why wasn't he getting as many shots?. I was in an out after the first quarter and came back in the 3rd when the game got in garbage time. I feel like Mills and Martin got the most 3s in garbage time.
    Was a symptom of a poor offensive first half. Spurs went heavy ISO and even when MEM came hard on doubles, Spurs were slow and not moving the ball. Danny just didn't get any looks because of it. Then when things opened up Danny wasn't really playing.

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    If SA wants to trade Danny, how he does in the playoffs is irrelevant. He's established his game already, and he's a known quan y that the Spurs need and could get a good offer for. They won't trade him.
    I tend to agree. He won't be traded and his bad shooting season won't matter at all if he shoots better in th playoffs. Hopefully he keeps it going. He got some shots to go in the Dallas game too.

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    Was a symptom of a poor offensive first half. Spurs went heavy ISO and even when MEM came hard on doubles, Spurs were slow and not moving the ball. Danny just didn't get any looks because of it. Then when things opened up Danny wasn't really playing.
    Thanks.
    Hmm makes me think about Pop's offense. It felt like guys got baskets off defensive plays a lot more.

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    Was a symptom of a poor offensive first half. Spurs went heavy ISO and even when MEM came hard on doubles, Spurs were slow and not moving the ball. Danny just didn't get any looks because of it. Then when things opened up Danny wasn't really playing.

    The good news is that he didn't try to put the ball on the floor, and kill possessions. I wouldn't mind if he only takes 3 shots a game, if they're all open 3's that he can square up on.

    He was busy on defense. He had another steal, but the ball hit a ref and kicked out of bounds. He got some other deflections, and generally played good D.

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    The problem on offense isn't just hitting shots. It's that their half court sets are a few token passes often with no rhyme or reason and each guy who gets the ball acts like they didn't expect to get it and don't know what to do with it. They either make a risky pass, pass late in the clock or start an iso play. I don't know if they run any sets to completion in the past few games. That high-low from Tim to LMA has been money, but it's not been used much, probably because Tim and LMA aren't on the floor together all that much. Like the past few years, the 2nd unit seems to have their ball movement down much better.

    I have to wonder if some of the issues on the 1st unit is because Tim is out of position. Would anyone say anything if he was? I saw a few times tonight that Tim wasn't expecting the ball when he got it. He played great, but quite often the appeared as if they haven't played but a handful of games together as a starting unit.

    On the other hand, the bench guys came in with a vengeance. Kyle Anderson was great in his first playoff game. You could tell he was stoked for it as was Simmons. Miller didn't get any burn, which surprised me a bit. I wonder if he's just the TMac guy Pop hopes to drag to a ring or use in an emergency.

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    Wouldn't mind trading him to Utah in a deal for Hayward.
    This could be huge for us.. No way the contractd would match..

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    The problem on offense isn't just hitting shots. It's that their half court sets are a few token passes often with no rhyme or reason and each guy who gets the ball acts like they didn't expect to get it and don't know what to do with it. They either make a risky pass, pass late in the clock or start an iso play. I don't know if they run any sets to completion in the past few games. That high-low from Tim to LMA has been money, but it's not been used much, probably because Tim and LMA aren't on the floor together all that much. Like the past few years, the 2nd unit seems to have their ball movement down much better.

    I have to wonder if some of the issues on the 1st unit is because Tim is out of position. Would anyone say anything if he was? I saw a few times tonight that Tim wasn't expecting the ball when he got it. He played great, but quite often the appeared as if they haven't played but a handful of games together as a starting unit.

    On the other hand, the bench guys came in with a vengeance. Kyle Anderson was great in his first playoff game. You could tell he was stoked for it as was Simmons. Miller didn't get any burn, which surprised me a bit. I wonder if he's just the TMac guy Pop hopes to drag to a ring or use in an emergency.

    Those long cross-court passes were driving me up the wall. Guys not moving, no passing lanes, so they chunked over everyone's head and the guy taking the pass had to jump to keep it out of the stands several times.

    Miller was one of the two inactives, along with Bonner, so he couldn't get minutes tonight. As long as Patty is looking good, I guess there's no need for Miller, unless Pop sees some matchup he likes. Lots of people say that will be against GS, but I'm not sure I see it.

    It looks to me like Tim is having a harder time wrestling for position, and getting shoved off his spot a lot easier than in the past. I know that's easy to say from the luxury of the living room. But he's playing quite a bit lighter than he was at his prime, and like it or not age takes a toll on strength. I don't think there could ever be a time when Timmy didn't know where to be on the court. I'm not sure he can always get there anymore.

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