official Kyle Anderson playoff minute thread

[dabom]

In the patty mills threads you have the opposite argument lol

Did you miss Patty in the first quarter got?

[GSH]

The argument was never about the kind of minutes It was about him getting minutes period. Blowout or not.

Absence from this thread duly noted.

As is Chinook's

The discussion was pretty specifically about whether Pop would expand his core playoff roster to 10, and whether Kyle would be that 10th player. I talked (repeatedly) about whether Kyle would get "meaningful minutes" in the playoffs. If you think getting minutes in a ridiculous ing blowout is "meaningful", that's on you. But you don't get to make up about what was discussed, because you're red-assed at people who regularly spank you on this site.

BTW - Martin got 12 minutes, and Boban got almost 10. That doesn't mean that Pop has expanded his playoff roster to 12 players. It means the beaten-down Griz couldn't put up enough of a fight for Pop to have to leave his starters on the floor. It was pretty clear that West, Mills, Diaw, and Manu were the four players getting minutes when the game was still in doubt.

This was an embarrassing argument, even for you slackers.

[GSH]

The playoffs are not over.

And it's still early. I doubt Pop can survive the entire playoffs with a very short perimeter rotation that includes Manu on minutes restrictions.

For the record, you may be right... may have been right before. KA has been playing pretty good, and Pop may well extend his core rotation to 10 players. I never denied that it might happen - I've just watched Pop operate for a long time, and he's pretty damned hard-headed. I think he COULD survive the entire playoffs with 9 main players, and platooning the remaining minutes the way I said. But you're right, there's a lot of basketball left. Last night doesn't say much, one way or the other, except that Kyle did well while he was on the floor. (You gotta admit, the moving goalpost gif was pretty damn funny, regardless.)

The rest of the pinhead crew are just constantly looking for a way to salve their chapped asses.

[skulls138]

I think Pops is using this round to get the starters and first bench as acclimated with each other as much as possible. As long as the season was, theres still a question as to whether LMA and TD can coexist that hasnt been completely answered, what with TD's injuries and Pops resting him and others so much.

[GSH]

I think Pops is using this round to get the starters and first bench as acclimated with each other as much as possible. As long as the season was, theres still a question as to whether LMA and TD can coexist that hasnt been completely answered, what with TD's injuries and Pops resting him and others so much.

I can't tell you how many times there have been players that I thought were doing pretty well (as backups) in the regular season. But when the playoffs rolled around, Pop made them disappear, except for spot minutes at the end of quarters, etc. That has more to do with my opinion than anything. The few people here who actually read noticed that I didn't say Kyle wasn't up to getting some playoff minutes. I said that Pop is known for relying on a smaller roster of seasoned vets, come playoff time.

People who want to make it a discussion of whether "Kyle is Great" or "Kyle Sucks" should come up with their own arguments, instead of trying to twist mine. Pop has never shown much willingness to expand his roster, when a playoff game is in doubt. So I don't think he'll do it this year, either. If I'm wrong, I'll be the first to say so.

[Blake]

For the record, you may be right... may have been right before. KA has been playing pretty good, and Pop may well extend his core rotation to 10 players. I never denied that it might happen - I've just watched Pop operate for a long time, and he's pretty damned hard-headed. I think he COULD survive the entire playoffs with 9 main players, and platooning the remaining minutes the way I said. But you're right, there's a lot of basketball left. Last night doesn't say much, one way or the other, except that Kyle did well while he was on the floor. (You gotta admit, the moving goalpost gif was pretty damn funny, regardless.)

The rest of the pinhead crew are just constantly looking for a way to salve their chapped asses.

Even if Pop expands to 10, I still can't see Kyle playing much.

I'm thinking Tim, Tony, Manu, KL, LA, Boris, Patty, West, Danny I'm thinking are it in close games. Especially after last night's first half roster went.

[SAGirl]

For the record, you may be right... may have been right before. KA has been playing pretty good, and Pop may well extend his core rotation to 10 players. I never denied that it might happen - I've just watched Pop operate for a long time, and he's pretty damned hard-headed. I think he COULD survive the entire playoffs with 9 main players, and platooning the remaining minutes the way I said. But you're right, there's a lot of basketball left. Last night doesn't say much, one way or the other, except that Kyle did well while he was on the floor. (You gotta admit, the moving goalpost gif was pretty damn funny, regardless.)

The rest of the pinhead crew are just constantly looking for a way to salve their chapped asses.

There are too many of the pinhead crew that you engage one and more sprout like roaches. I have started to just avoid feeding them trolls.

The garbage time crew played well, ran the clock, ran our offense, played defense and didn't allow the depleted Grizz to make any kind of run. That's what allowed them to stay on the floor all those minutes and Pop still coaches those guys. By the way they have developed chemistry and are still a fairly fun bunch to watch IMO.

If we are lucky the entire first round will be like that. Allowing the older crew to stay healthy and for these guys to get experience. I haven't been around as long as you so when you chatted about Pop being so reluctant I listened. I will also understand if Kyle doesn't play in close games against OKC and the like, bc it's Pop sticking to his trusted crew and in the last season possibly for Tim and Manu, who can blame him. But we are bound to encounter a lot of perimeter lineups ahead too and we shall see then. Kawhi can and will play the 40 minutes, but I have seen Pop prefer Danny, then Kyle for the small amount of minutes Kawhi is not out there for defensive reasons. There are always foul trouble situations and unexpected in the playoffs too.

I didn't even cite the 15 minutes for Kyle in this thread originally after the game bc it's a magnet for them trolls. It was garbage time, so I knew trolls would bring that up. But they were minutes, so the other guys got a point. Aren't we in a nice situation when there were almost 16 minutes of garbage time Kyle could play easily in without jeopardizing the results of the game?

Who cares? I am a fan. I got to see my guy play his first game in the playoffs. I saw Boban and Simmons play well as well. Martin and Patty were making shots, who cares to make a whole drama about that? Guys who like troll is who.

[look_at_g_shred]

The discussion was pretty specifically about whether Pop would expand his core playoff roster to 10, and whether Kyle would be that 10th player. I talked (repeatedly) about whether Kyle would get "meaningful minutes" in the playoffs. If you think getting minutes in a ridiculous ing blowout is "meaningful", that's on you. But you don't get to make up about what was discussed, because you're red-assed at people who regularly spank you on this site.

BTW - Martin got 12 minutes, and Boban got almost 10. That doesn't mean that Pop has expanded his playoff roster to 12 players. It means the beaten-down Griz couldn't put up enough of a fight for Pop to have to leave his starters on the floor. It was pretty clear that West, Mills, Diaw, and Manu were the four players getting minutes when the game was still in doubt.

This was an embarrassing argument, even for you slackers.

I can't remember what thread it was but Dabom and Blake argued with me that he wouldn't log any minutes whatsoever.

[SpursforSix]

KA is primed and ready to take a big old squat doody on top of the Warriors and then rub it in with his barefeet.

[dabom]

I can't remember what thread it was but Dabom and Blake argued with me that he wouldn't log any minutes whatsoever.

Wasn't me. Bump it if you can. Not real though.

[Blake]

I can't remember what thread it was but Dabom and Blake argued with me that he wouldn't log any minutes whatsoever.

Sorry, don't recall discussing "whatsoever" minutes.

I've said he wouldn't get much beyond scrub time or injury minutes. I still think that.

[Obstructed_View]

I guess it counts.

What we're really waiting for is a close game

Didn't see any discussion of what kind of minutes until after he got 15 in the first game. People that hate him at all costs are busy trying to move the goalposts. Anderson also played great in the minutes he was given.

[tholdren]

Didn't see any discussion of what kind of minutes until after he got 15 in the first game. People that hate him at all costs are busy trying to move the goalposts. Anderson also played great in the minutes he was given.

yes, he did.

[Blake]

Didn't see any discussion of what kind of minutes until after he got 15 in the first game. People that hate him at all costs are busy trying to move the goalposts. Anderson also played great in the minutes he was given.

Cmon. The question we're all discussing is if he's going to be an integral part of this playoff run or not.

If you want to count his minutes with Kmart, Simmons and Boban as important, that's your prerogative, but make sure you note these other guys are just as important then.

[silverblackfan]

I think Pop and the coaches like letting Kyle soak up whatever minutes they can spare in this round. His growth this year has been amazing, especially on defense. He really is learning how to deflect passes, probably because he knows how to pass and can reach that far. If he continues to perform well, we could see him used as another weapon.
Hey, he can consistently get the ball to Boban. That alone makes those blowouts that much harder for the opponent to catch up.

[SAGirl]

Cmon. The question we're all discussing is if he's going to be an integral part of this playoff run or not.

If you want to count his minutes with Kmart, Simmons and Boban as important, that's your prerogative, but make sure you note these other guys are just as important then.

I think you are the one who keeps moving the goalposts as what you consider integral or nor is your subjective opinion. He played. You said he wouldn't play. You were even pressuring guys and gals to put a number of minutes he would play. That was all you cared about. You acted like it was ridiculous and preposterous to think he would play at all.

I don't care what you think. Minutes in the playoffs are minutes and even a garbage time crew has a role. Had they come in and allowed the Grizz back in the game, they would have been benched. So whatever.

[Chinook]

I think you are the one who keeps moving the goalposts as what you consider integral or nor is your subjective opinion. He played. You said he wouldn't play. You were even pressuring guys and gals to put a number of minutes he would play. That was all you cared about. You acted like it was ridiculous and preposterous to think he would play at all.

I don't care what you think. Minutes in the playoffs are minutes and even a garbage time crew has a role. Had they come in and allowed the Grizz back in the game, they would have been benched. So whatever.

Honestly, there's no point in debating with Blake unless you're bored or just like arguing. He took Anderson playing 15 minutes in one game as a reason to brag about his belief that Anderson wouldn't be part of the playoff rotation. It makes no sense, but it gives you a preview of where this thread is going. Every game where Anderson doesn't play a lot, it's gonna get bumped by people acting like they've been proven correct. Every game Anderson plays a lot, there will be an excuse. No win.

[Brazil]

I'm on the record to have said I hope he plays 20 mn every game that would mean Spurs blowout opponents and go 16-0... so far so good tbh... not 20 true but 15 is ok

to be fair same goes to Martin who only play when Spurs had 20 pts lead

[Brazil]

Honestly, there's no point in debating with Blake unless you're bored or just like arguing. He took Anderson playing 15 minutes in one game as a reason to brag about his belief that Anderson wouldn't be part of the playoff rotation. It makes no sense, but it gives you a preview of where this thread is going. Every game where Anderson doesn't play a lot, it's gonna get bumped by people acting like they've been proven correct. Every game Anderson plays a lot, there will be an excuse. No win.

what a post tbh...

There is nothing wrong to say he played 15 mn but it was when Spurs had 20 pts lead. BTW Martin played 12, I'm not bragging regarding the fact he played much more than you were expecting because you would reply "meaningfull minutes" and you would be right.

So far Meaningful minutes Martin and Anderson = 0, MP 15 to 12

And again I do hope it continues like that every game, that would be a great sign for Spurs 6th

[Chinook]

what a post tbh...

I'm simply disturbed that people thought this was bump-worthy. It's as ripe to blow up as your post bragging about Martin after like two games did.

There is nothing wrong to say he played 15 mn but it was when Spurs had 20 pts lead. BTW Martin played 12, I'm not bragging regarding the fact he played much more than you were expecting because you would reply "meaningfull minutes" and you would be right.

So far Meaningful minutes Martin and Anderson = 0, MP 15 to 12

He played 15 minutes and was the 10th player on the court. In the first game. Being up 22 in the third is not garbage time. He came in with Mills, Ginobili, West and Duncan. That's not a garbage-time lineup.

The biggest issue is that this was one game against a team that doesn't play small-ball, and whom the Spurs blew out after only 33 minutes of play. After Pop said Anderson would play and after Anderson had played all year, this simply isn't a game where anyone should feel vindicated.

And again I do hope it continues like that every game, that would be a great sign for Spurs 6th

I obviously hope for the same thing. But if the Spurs are literally only playing 33 compe ive minutes a game, I don't think we'll have a good sense of the playoff rotation at all.

[SAGirl]

Honestly, there's no point in debating with Blake unless you're bored or just like arguing. He took Anderson playing 15 minutes in one game as a reason to brag about his belief that Anderson wouldn't be part of the playoff rotation. It makes no sense, but it gives you a preview of where this thread is going. Every game where Anderson doesn't play a lot, it's gonna get bumped by people acting like they've been proven correct. Every game Anderson plays a lot, there will be an excuse. No win.

You are absolutely right and it will keep getting bumped by Blake and guys who only cared to troll about it. Like you say, always will be a qualifier.

[Obstructed_View]

Cmon. The question we're all discussing is if he's going to be an integral part of this playoff run or not.

If you want to count his minutes with Kmart, Simmons and Boban as important, that's your prerogative, but make sure you note these other guys are just as important then.

The OP said to guess how many minutes he would play. I posted up how many minutes he played so you could keep track of it.

You're welcome.

[Brazil]

I'm simply disturbed that people thought this was bump-worthy. It's as ripe to blow up as your post bragging about Martin after like two games did.



He played 15 minutes and was the 10th player on the court. In the first game. Being up 22 in the third is not garbage time. He came in with Mills, Ginobili, West and Duncan. That's not a garbage-time lineup.

The biggest issue is that this was one game against a team that doesn't play small-ball, and whom the Spurs blew out after only 33 minutes of play. After Pop said Anderson would play and after Anderson had played all year, this simply isn't a game where anyone should feel vindicated.



I obviously hope for the same thing. But if the Spurs are literally only playing 33 compe ive minutes a game, I don't think we'll have a good sense of the playoff rotation at all.

I did not use garbage btw, I said meaningful. He entered end of the third not really garbage time I agree, if the game was close he would have played obviously much less.

bottom line this game is not very indicative on how much he will be used thats why I said meaningful minutes = 0 so far for both. Again 15 and 12 from those two every game would be imo a good signal for the Spurs.

[Chinook]

I did not use garbage btw, I said meaningful. He entered end of the third not really garbage time I agree, if the game was close he would have played obviously much less.

He would have played less, but he would have played more than you're assuming. That's what I think, anyway. Obviously, if the Spurs only have 33 meaningful minutes a game, they won't play 10 guys. That's 165 minutes to spread out. So I think it's completely uninformative. I can say that Anderson came in right before the beginning of garbage time when Martin and Simmons came in in the fourth when the Spurs were up by even more. In a real series, Pop would still have needed to rest Leonard and Green. People who are assuming otherwise took the exact wrong message from this game.

bottom line this game is not very indicative on how much he will be used thats why I said meaningful minutes = 0 so far for both. Again 15 and 12 from those two every game would be imo a good signal for the Spurs.

Again, agree it would be nice if the Spurs always blew teams out so early. But it's clear Anderson is ahead of Martin right now in the rotation, attempts to qualify notwithstanding.

[Seventyniner]

Again, agree it would be nice if the Spurs always blew teams out so early. But it's clear Anderson is ahead of Martin right now in the rotation, attempts to qualify notwithstanding.

Here is the crux of the issue: where does Anderson stand in the pecking order? To me he's clearly behind Leonard/Green/Manu/Diaw and clearly ahead of Simmons/Martin/Miller. I list those players because Anderson can play the 2, 3, or 4, but he won't be taking minutes from Parker/Mills/Duncan. While West is a 4, he plays a lot at the 5 so I don't think he's directly comparable to Anderson.