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We can't have gender neutral restrooms because indecent, rude and poorly socialized men will expose themselves, pee on the seat and harass women
Never seen em. I'll have to take your word.
Even then
We can't have gender neutral restrooms because indecent, rude and poorly socialized men will expose themselves, pee on the seat and harass women
Is that about the size of it?
Sounds about right. Even if a Caitlyn just wants to go in and use the toilet and not bother anyone, you'll always have the Avantes who have just been given the golden key.
Avantes aren't going to be kept out of a restroom on some legal technicality. Anything you're afraid will happen to your daughter is, and always will be, illegal.
Yup. From what is reported, many sex offenses are crimes of opportunity. I can't believe that anyone lobbying for open bathrooms just dismisses any concerns as being irrational. There's a reason that convicted sex offenders can't live near schools. But all of a sudden, it's going to be OK for them to use the same public restrooms as children.
Men already expose themselves in bathrooms. In fact when I was really young, a man pissing in the urinal started wanking off while glancing back & forth at me. I'd no idea what he was doing at the time, but I thought it was weird and hurried out.
And also, men aren't the only ones who've preyed on young kids. It goes both ways.
I think there's also the issue of people just using it as an excuse to get a quick in. It'd be easy to walk into a stall with your girl and get head. How they gonna prove any thing indecent is going on short of seemen flying on the shoe of the person in the next stall?
I believe most people are good & well-intentioned. I don't believe most adults would have a problem with gender-neutral bathrooms. Pissing next to a woman or girl wouldn't be an issue and vice versa. But I think if you have gender-neutral bathrooms, immature people (esp. adolescents) are going to try and get away with a lot more in those stalls. Which would be the wrong environment for a child, or anyone.
In terms of the practicality of it tho, even if you had gender-neutral bathrooms, they'd be HATED by women, for the simple reason that half the time women spend in the bathroom is to put on/fix their make up. They don't want to do that in front of men.
All of these slippery slope arguments about what illegal activity could possibly happen make me wonder how we ever legalized men and women being in the same room together.
If we let men and women use the same swimming pools, men will be oggling little girls while they're in swimsuits, and teenage kids will be giving each other handjobs underwater all the time.
I wouldn't want my daughter swimming next to a potential pedophile.
A female perspective would be esp. appreciated here. Maybe rmt or some other female poster can comment. Apparently a bunch of guys have it all figured out already.
I don't know, we're a lot more violent a culture than the rest of the first world. Like Michael Moore says, guns don't kill people, Americans kill people.
No kidding, imagine if we let gun owners bring their guns into bathrooms. Think of all of the vulnerable people who would be shot.
I will not go into any bathroom with anyone who looks male. I definitely wouldn't send my daughter or son (when they were young) in either. Even when my son got old enough where he didn't want to go into the ladies bathroom with me, I'd stand outside the men's bathroom and talk to him the entire time he was in there alone. One of you called me clinically paranoid, but you can't be too careful these days - I'll do everything I can not to be a victim.
That's my point. They will be given access along with everyone else. At least now, they have to try and sneak in and have a harder time doing so. If you make them all gender neutral then they can just walk right in after any young child.
I know that there are already gay and lesbian Avantes that have access but I am talking about just any old Avante that is into children or even adult women.
They can already just walk right in. They're about to commit a crime that could put them in prison for the rest of their life, you don't think they would commit a misdemeanor to do so?
Single bathrooms will still have locks, public bathrooms with multiple toilets will still have the risk of other witnesses... the exact same risk potential rapists take right now.
Last edited by Spurminator; 04-21-2016 at 09:04 AM.
Yeah, it's pretty hilarious how many guys here speak on behalf of women regarding their comfort/privacy.
If you had a daughter that you cared about you might understand.
It's funny how many people make that argument.
As if the bathroom laws will somehow put a protective magic barrier around the bathroom, keeping sexual predators out
So when you're at a movie theater, how do you yourself identify trans pedos?
Do you do a check under every skirt?
You're comparing a movie theater to a bathroom?
Not saying that laws place a magical barrier. My point is, why make it easier. I know it's hard for you to grasp.
Sure, there is a risk now of tranny Avantes in the restroom. I am talking about the point YOU made though where restrooms should be gender neutral. That opens the doors for all of them. I BELIEVE, and I could be wrong, there was a thread that had a post saying that all someone needed was a push to send them in addict mode. Don't you think that open the doors for them to be in a setting such as a restroom is a good enough push?
He does a quick check before taking his seat. Some people like popcorn at movies others like checks. Don't judge him.
I never judge. Does he look for people to do the old popcorn trick with him?
He's more of a nacho guy
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