New car "Elio" 84 MPG $6,800 Msrp

[MultiTroll]

I can see this flying in lots of places, but especially Austin as an icebreaker.

https://www.eliomotors.com/about-elio/

[MultiTroll]

[101A]

This saga has been going on for years. Still not in production; 41,000 orders, though. I'll believe this when I see it.

[FkLA]

Intriguing but getting in an accident in one of those would suck tbh.

[Bender]

^---- not as bad a on a motorcycle, and there are millions of those on the roads

[MultiTroll]

This saga has been going on for years. Still not in production; 41,000 orders, though. I'll believe this when I see it.

Same scenario with Aptera. Which ended up splitting into two companies, a one made in China by Jonway. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonway
To this day I don't know if Aptera USA ever got the thing on the road or not. The prototypes were way cool. 200mpg with elec assist. Also it rated high in crash tests.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aptera_Motors

My gut tells me the oil and gas pigs are gonna kill any serious attempts. Tesla seems to be the only one that made it in and of course they cost 75K. Once Tesla puts out there 35K model you can be sure elec rates will zoom.

[Wild Cobra]

I can see this flying in lots of places, but especially Austin as an icebreaker.

https://www.eliomotors.com/about-elio/

I can see it flying also. When one of those winds through the gorge surge up, it will fly right off the road!

[Wild Cobra]

Intriguing but getting in an accident in one of those would suck tbh.

Yep.

Since it is legally a motorcycle, it doesn't go though the same crash test standards.

[boutons_deux]

Elio: 8+ years and counting, still needs $200M for production.

Paul Elio wants full control, equity investors ALL want control, so no deal.

http://www.elioowners.com

Paul can't get US Govt ATVM loan, because ATVM loans require the recipient to be financially viable.

Paul should have been more forward thinking and went full electric with stock parts rather than wasting $Ms and time developing his own 3-cyl gas engine.

[101A]

Same scenario with Aptera. Which ended up splitting into two companies, a one made in China by Jonway. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonway
To this day I don't know if Aptera USA ever got the thing on the road or not. The prototypes were way cool. 200mpg with elec assist. Also it rated high in crash tests.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aptera_Motors

My gut tells me the oil and gas pigs are gonna kill any serious attempts. Tesla seems to be the only one that made it in and of course they cost 75K. Once Tesla puts out there 35K model you can be sure elec rates will zoom.

Tesla got big Federal $$$. Elio got a tax abatement from Shreveport.

[101A]

Elio: 8+ years and counting, still needs $200M for production.

Paul Elio wants full control, equity investors ALL want control, so no deal.

http://www.elioowners.com

Paul can't get US Govt ATVM loan, because ATVM loans require the recipient to be financially viable.

Paul should have been more forward thinking and went full electric with stock parts rather than wasting $Ms and time developing his own 3-cyl gas engine.

Or even if not electric - plenty of small engines available (every 900+ CC bike)

[Wild Cobra]

Tesla got big Federal $$$. Elio got a tax abatement from Shreveport.

Tesla I think would have made it without any tax dollars. They started with a high end model that only very well off people could buy. I don't think a few grand made a difference for them.

[Wild Cobra]

tesla is the auto equivalent of the spruce goose

Ir's an awesome sight!

Finally, in February 1993, the aircraft was transported by truck for the last 7.5 miles to McMinnville, Oregon. Temporary hangars were built as housing for the aircraft, while volunteers worked on the aircraft’s restoration. In 2001, re-assembly of the Hughes Flying Boat was completed in its new home.

http://www.evergreenmuseum.org/the-spruce-goose

It's not far from where I live.