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    The only one who really cares to make a whole argument about this is Blake and he pretty much lost his argument in the first round bc Kyle was consistently the 10th man in minutes and spot getting off the bench. Then Blake conditioned his position on this, that, and the other.

    Frankly, I don't care about this thread or issue at all, like not at all.

    I only cared that Kyle would play in the playoffs, which is what I stated in the beginning and he has. I think he will also play in the second round, but only Blake cares to make a whole issue about role and minutes. Will he get more than Kmart? I don't care about that either. I think Kmart has a spot depending on situation and if we need his particular skill set bc other guys aren't making shots. I don't even discard the possibility that Simmons or Boban will see minutes bc they also have a particular skill set that may come in handy. Pop may originally start with a short rotation and then go deeper depending who he feels will help at different points and based on what OKC is doing, but Kyle has consistently been getting minutes and as Pop himself said, he's part of the rotation, why would he eject him at this point?

    Blake, you are the only one getting defensive here bc you were the only one who wanted to be right about this. You have attracted sympathizers among the Kyle hate crew-Kikoluna, TGY and a few others- and I don't even bother with those guys bc there is no purpose. You are reaching the point of no purpose too.
    Clearly you don't care. Like, clearly.

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    Yeah, when you go out saying we should discuss "exactly" how many minutes they'll play, you don't get a threshold.

    Ok, what is your "threshold"
    Six minutes a game is the minimum, I'd say. Three minutes each half is enough to bridge the gaps for the top three guys. I'd even go so far as to say that he'd have to get those minutes in the majority of the games (barring injury) for him to count as a rotation player. So 4-4-4-6-3-15 wouldn't count even though that averages out to six MPG.

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    Yeah, when you go out saying we should discuss "exactly" how many minutes they'll play, you don't get a threshold.
    Yeah, I get a hissy fit.

    Six minutes a game is the minimum, I'd say. Three minutes each half is enough to bridge the gaps for the top three guys. I'd even go so far as to say that he'd have to get those minutes in the majority of the games (barring injury) for him to count as a rotation player. So 4-4-4-6-3-15 wouldn't count even though that averages out to six MPG.
    Why was that so difficult?

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    Yeah, I get a hissy fit.
    Blake, let's just be clear. You don't seem to get anything, really. You act like a mix of Kobyz and Chump.

    Why was that so difficult?
    It wasn't. You didn't ask that question until just now. You've been trying to get a number for Anderson's mpg, not the minimum number of minutes a 10th man needs to play. Entirely different questions, with different answers.

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    This is starting to look like the jimmer thread. Goalposts being moved every day, dogged refusal to admit defeat about a marginal player

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    Blake, let's just be clear. You don't seem to get anything, really. You act like a mix of Kobyz and Chump.



    It wasn't. You didn't ask that question until just now. You've been trying to get a number for Anderson's mpg, not the minimum number of minutes a 10th man needs to play. Entirely different questions, with different answers.
    You act like this topic is important enough to get hung up on semantics instead of just shooting the about Kyle.

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    You act like this topic is important enough to get hung up on semantics instead of just shooting the about Kyle.
    Don't you think that's hypocritical, seeing as you keep insisting on people giving exact predictions rather than just discussing the other questions you posed? , you called me a coward for not giving an exact number. How the is that laid-back?

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    Don't you think that's hypocritical, seeing as you keep insisting on people giving exact predictions rather than just discussing the other questions you posed? , you called me a coward for not giving an exact number. How the is that laid-back?
    If you're insisting Kyle is needed to play, I'm just asking for your opinion on how many minutes you think he'll get. That's about it.

    If you're too cowardly to back it up, that's on you. I'm calling you cowardly from as laid back a position as I can take.

    The other part is that it's entertaining to watch you guys get all mad and build up these walls of text instead of just giving some number (s).

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    This is starting to look like the jimmer thread. Goalposts being moved every day, dogged refusal to admit defeat about a marginal player
    Indeed.
    I only stated initially he would play, and I said that weeks b4 the playoffs started, when guys started to try to make me seem like a fool.

    I thought he'd play bc he had averaged over 20 minutes per game from February on, after the RRT, when the team historically emerges with a playoff iden y and while seed wasn't established. Games that really mattered, he helped us win. Then Pop stated he was giving him all these minutes to get him ready to be a "real contributor in this league." Pop never benched him after Kmart's arrival either. If anything, he pushed Kyle harder. He played in all of our markee games and started a bunch of games bc either Kawhi was ill or resting, Danny was resting, and he got minutes at the 4 when Boris was coasting or injured, even when he's still perhaps too underweight for it, and very young. Pop continued to call his number against guys he was overmatched against like Durant and Nowitzky. He's been pushed to develop all season, with some urgency IMO. That is why you saw guys complaining about all the rest affecting Kawhi, Danny and whoever else. On the one hand, Pop wanted to get as many minutes as possible to get Kmart comfortable with the system, on the other, he never quit pushing Kyle to develop.

    Then, Pop stated after the final game of the season when asked whether Kyle would figure in the playoff rotation, that he had played Kyle all season, and he didn't see a reason to bench him now. True to his statement Kyle has played. Its ironic that all the forum warriors here see more reason to bench Kyle than Pop has.

    Now, we have a veteran team and Pop may shorten rotations in close games. At the same time, we have an old team, and he's not playing a whole series that way. In addition, there are foul situations, (did you catch Manu with 5 fouls in 13 minutes of play time in a close out game?), and lineup problems presented by other teams. The league has increasingly gone to perimeter oriented lineups, a reality that Pop was trying to get Kyle ready for, that is why he's emphasized rebounding so much. When you lose a center in favor of additional guards or a SF, rebounding and rim protection go out the window, thus Kyle was pushed to emphasize, defense and rebounding above all else.

    Anyways, I am already yapping too much.

    I don't care about Blake's established rules by himself that he gets to change whenever he pleases. I only cared that Kyle got playoff experience and opportunities to help the team. Kyle is already a part of the playoff rotation and will continue to play in some form. According to my standards this issue is already lost for Blake and Kyle haters. All that is left is hoping he plays well when his number is called and that he helps us to a championship. Personally that is all I cared about.

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    If you're insisting Kyle is needed to play, I'm just asking for your opinion on how many minutes you think he'll get. That's about it.
    The number of minutes is completely irrelevant though, especially past a logical threshold. The question before you decided to try to quantify things was whether Pop would keep an expanded rotation and then, as you identified, whether he'd go with a vet over Anderson. None of that requires an exact number. You don't really seem to want to contribute to that discussion, which is why people aren't readily engaging you.

    If you're too cowardly to back it up, that's on you. I'm calling you cowardly from as laid back a position as I can take.
    It's actually pretty anal. Like if I said, "The Spurs will beat GS handily", is it cowardly to not give a specific differential? Not really. Most of us just don't think in those terms, and we don't want to start just to please you.

    The other part is that it's entertaining to watch you guys get all mad and build up these walls of text instead of just giving some number (s).
    I know you think this. But it's actually really sad. You're a bad troll, relatively easy to ignore while completely lacking nuance. You don't tie people up in knots with your reasoning or your questions. Well, maybe you get SAG, but that's only because the poor woman still tries to engage everyone honestly. The only thing that your "Wall of text" critiques do is expose your reluctance to read anything of substance. I don't know where you come from where you think that bragging about not be willing to read 100 words is cool, but it's mad unenviable.

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    this serie is quite meaningless as regards as minutes, stats etc... tbh but Kyle did not do much with his 17 mpg, he had been pretty terrible in fact
    tbh

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    The number of minutes is completely irrelevant though, especially past a logical threshold. The question before you decided to try to quantify things was whether Pop would keep an expanded rotation and then, as you identified, whether he'd go with a vet over Anderson. None of that requires an exact number. You don't really seem to want to contribute to that discussion, which is why people aren't readily engaging you.



    It's actually pretty anal. Like if I said, "The Spurs will beat GS handily", is it cowardly to not give a specific differential? Not really. Most of us just don't think in those terms, and we don't want to start just to please you.



    I know you think this. But it's actually really sad. You're a bad troll, relatively easy to ignore while completely lacking nuance. You don't tie people up in knots with your reasoning or your questions. Well, maybe you get SAG, but that's only because the poor woman still tries to engage everyone honestly. The only thing that your "Wall of text" critiques do is expose your reluctance to read anything of substance. I don't know where you come from where you think that bragging about not be willing to read 100 words is cool, but it's mad unenviable.
    Tldr

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    Indeed.
    I only stated initially he would play, and I said that weeks b4 the playoffs started, when guys started to try to make me seem like a fool.

    I thought he'd play bc he had averaged over 20 minutes per game from February on, after the RRT, when the team historically emerges with a playoff iden y and while seed wasn't established. Games that really mattered, he helped us win. Then Pop stated he was giving him all these minutes to get him ready to be a "real contributor in this league." Pop never benched him after Kmart's arrival either. If anything, he pushed Kyle harder. He played in all of our markee games and started a bunch of games bc either Kawhi was ill or resting, Danny was resting, and he got minutes at the 4 when Boris was coasting or injured, even when he's still perhaps too underweight for it, and very young. Pop continued to call his number against guys he was overmatched against like Durant and Nowitzky. He's been pushed to develop all season, with some urgency IMO. That is why you saw guys complaining about all the rest affecting Kawhi, Danny and whoever else. On the one hand, Pop wanted to get as many minutes as possible to get Kmart comfortable with the system, on the other, he never quit pushing Kyle to develop.

    Then, Pop stated after the final game of the season when asked whether Kyle would figure in the playoff rotation, that he had played Kyle all season, and he didn't see a reason to bench him now. True to his statement Kyle has played. Its ironic that all the forum warriors here see more reason to bench Kyle than Pop has.

    Now, we have a veteran team and Pop may shorten rotations in close games. At the same time, we have an old team, and he's not playing a whole series that way. In addition, there are foul situations, (did you catch Manu with 5 fouls in 13 minutes of play time in a close out game?), and lineup problems presented by other teams. The league has increasingly gone to perimeter oriented lineups, a reality that Pop was trying to get Kyle ready for, that is why he's emphasized rebounding so much. When you lose a center in favor of additional guards or a SF, rebounding and rim protection go out the window, thus Kyle was pushed to emphasize, defense and rebounding above all else.

    Anyways, I am already yapping too much.

    I don't care about Blake's established rules by himself that he gets to change whenever he pleases. I only cared that Kyle got playoff experience and opportunities to help the team. Kyle is already a part of the playoff rotation and will continue to play in some form. According to my standards this issue is already lost for Blake and Kyle haters. All that is left is hoping he plays well when his number is called and that he helps us to a championship. Personally that is all I cared about.
    Frankly you don't care about this thread. Like, at all.

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    Frankly you don't care about this thread. Like, at all.
    More like I don't care about you probably.

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    Anderson is worse than Bonner

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    So i saw him come in in the first q, but he din't do anything and probably got yanked. but hey........

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    He's playing great defense on KD

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    heck of a game for anderson so far. keep it up.

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    He has the length of Durant. Sooooo why not

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    This was EXACTLY what I was talking about. I think pretty much everyone thought Kyle did a decent job in Game 1. Good enough that you would have expected him to get at least 15 minutes tonight. Pop gives him exactly 5:11.

    It was never a matter of whether Kyle was good enough to play - not to me anyway. Just whether Pop would give him regular minutes in the playoffs. We couldn't base much on the Round 1 landslide. But this looks a whole lot like what I said might happen.

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    Kyle got 30 secs in a close game then got subbed out in game 1 then back in with a huge lead. Nothing to see here.

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    Nice block of Westbrook.
    Rung up by ref for coming too close to Westchucks vag.

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    Close game... Anderson with 5 mn delivering nothing... yup

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