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psssh. Perhaps.
But can there be any doubt some recordings exist somewhere of Cruz and farm animals?
BTW, Bernie townhall right now on MSNBC.
psssh. Perhaps.
But can there be any doubt some recordings exist somewhere of Cruz and farm animals?
Trump has been doing the communist/socialist shtick, it doesn't stick with Bernie's voters or independents. Hilary has barely been attacked, just a few insults by Trump and Cruz. MSM will not bother wilth Hilary besides a few like Judge Jean, Hannity and sometimes Bill O.
Even if that's true. You cant expect those numbers to not move. They will.
People surge and deep all the time. This illussion that Bernie is untouchable is far fetch. Even with his otherwise clean record, when and if a party focuses fire on you, you will suffer even a little bit.
Who knows what the republicans got for Bernie.
Ooooh Bernie didn't rule out being Hillary's VP...depending on what she does.
The thing is that the likely republican nominee is Trump who has his fair share of skeletons in the closet, most already dealt with, but some good ones to bring out. Hillary... she could have dealt with some of hers while facing Bernie and probably still win. She's been untouched because MSM seems to really like her and ironically that might be a big problem for her later on when it becomes a slug fest.
I think when it's Trump vs Hilary, it's gonna be a compe ion of who drowns in first after they pile it on eachother. Trump might not get buried before KKKlinton
Bernie, however, has very little going against him besides being a bum for half of his life. Independents and Liberals will like his policies, he's got a good presence in the north east and hasn't stepped on much his entire political career. He would easily beat out any republican, Trump wouldn't have ammo besides repeating "Communist/Socialist Bernie" 1000x times. Mark my words, Hillary will have issues against either Trump or Cruz - Kasich would be just an easy win though. That got has zero ability to debate and he's a giant crybaby; every he's questioned that he can't possibly win nomination he says dumb like "the delegates will come to their senses and see me as their best bet" or "I HAVE FRIENDS ON THE RNC I WILL BE ON THE SECOND BALLOT". He got into a shouting match with hannity a few days ago
I agree on most of this.The thing is that the likely republican nominee is Trump who has his fair share of skeletons in the closet, most already dealt with, but some good ones to bring out. Hillary... she could have dealt with some of hers while facing Bernie and probably still win. She's been untouched because MSM seems to really like her and ironically that might be a big problem for her later on when it becomes a slug fest.
I think when it's Trump vs Hilary, it's gonna be a compe ion of who drowns in first after they pile it on eachother. Trump might not get buried before KKKlinton
Bernie, however, has very little going against him besides being a bum for half of his life. Independents and Liberals will like his policies, he's got a good presence in the north east and hasn't stepped on much his entire political career. He would easily beat out any republican, Trump wouldn't have ammo besides repeating "Communist/Socialist Bernie" 1000x times. Mark my words, Hillary will have issues against either Trump or Cruz - Kasich would be just an easy win though. That got has zero ability to debate and he's a giant crybaby; every he's questioned that he can't possibly win nomination he says dumb like "the delegates will come to their senses and see me as their best bet" or "I HAVE FRIENDS ON THE RNC I WILL BE ON THE SECOND BALLOT". He got into a shouting match with hannity a few days ago
But..but, most if not all of Clinton's baggage is already out for the picking. And if and when the FBI gets done with their overdue investigation and she doesn't get indicted, that's one less ammunition the repugs won't have.
I wouldn't be surprise if Hillary doesn't try to portrayed Trump as a democrat.
This is going to be something to watch for sure.
Not sure how playing Trump as a democrat will work out, he is a rockafeller Republican through and through though. Especially after his somewhat liberal stance on LBGT related stuff. Even the log cabin republicans want to fully endorse him, but they're calling him out to make his lgbt stance clear before they do so. Going to be stepping through a minefield making Trump look like a liberal because conservatives would never vote HilaryI agree on most of this.
But..but, most if not all of Clinton's baggage is already out for the picking. And if and when the FBI gets done with their overdue investigation and she doesn't get indicted, that's one less ammunition the repugs won't have.
I wouldn't be surprise if Hillary doesn't try to portrayed Trump as a democrat.
This is going to be something to watch for sure.
She's not picking him... Did you see her townhall tonight? She basically gave the impression that she is en led to the vote of Sanders' supporters and she doesn't care even if she doesn't get their vote because she will probably win anyway.
Why did Hillary Clinton go to the wedding of hardcore racist (according to her) Donald Trump?
MSNBC Interrupts Bernie Sanders Town Hall With Fake Trump Breaking News
MSNBC is so obsessed with Donald Trump that they took a break in the middle of the Bernie Sanders town hall in Philadelphia to throw it back to the studio so that Chris Matthews could discuss Donald Trump.
After roughly 30 minutes of Bernie Sanders talking about issues with Chris Hayes, MSNBC took a commercial break where they went back to the studio so that Chris Matthews could discuss Donald Trump’s call for Ted Cruz and John Kasich to drop out of the presidential race. Matthews spent a few minutes talking to Jonathan Capehart about what Trump’s empty rhetoric meant, and then after an additional commercial break viewers were returned to Bernie Sanders.
http://www.politicususa.com/2016/04/...iticus+USA+%29
Bernie has also exposed how bad even the "liberal media" is. I like how he called out Chris and MSNBC for being owned by Comcast, and then they go on to prove his point that they are lost on the real issues and can't look away from the stupid, shiny, attention-grabbing objects (e.g. Trump).
It's hard to tell which one was done first tbh. These were pre tapes events so its hard to say for sure if what she meant was after hearing him give the response and vice versa.
Bernie Sanders is profoundly changing how millennials think about politics
The poll of Americans between the ages of 18 and 29 finds that Sanders is by far the most popular presidential candidate among the youngest voters. This group's at udes on a range of issues have become more liberal in the past year.
not only has Sanders's campaign made for an unexpectedly compe ive Democratic primary, he has also changed the way millennials think about politics, said polling director John Della Volpe.
"He's not moving a party to the left. He's moving a generation to the left," Della Volpe said of the senator from Vermont. "Whether or not he's winning or losing, it's really that he's impacting the way in which a generation — the largest generation in the history of America — thinks about politics."
Apparently, Sanders's popularity with young voters isn't just some shallow fad or a cult of personality with little connection to substantive questions of politics. Young people, it seems, are taking Sanders's ideas to heart.
Della Volpe cautions that it's impossible to predict how millennials' views will shift in the future, but people change parties only rarely after about age 30, researchers have found.
If that pattern holds for the millennial generation, then Democrats could be indebted for decades to a politician who has rejected a formal association with the Democratic Party for his entire career until now.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...cs-poll-shows/
Of course, the red, slave states, heavily redistricted and gerrymandered, low-education, low-wage, are mostly immune to Sanders' message.
Tonight is probably Bernie's last hurrah. I'm going to have to stay away from the television... it's will be too painful.
Hillary or Bernie won't make much difference in getting problems solved. Hillary will sign Repug bills that Bernie would have vetoed.
The Repug House will continue to defund, up govt, even if the Dems can take the Senate. If Wall St Schumer becomes the Dem Senate leader, Wall St will remain untouched.
America will remain ed by Repugs and un able.
Bernie isnt stopping until at least June 7th. Like Ive stayed in the past, his entire campaign strategy hinges on a massive win in California. Short of that, he may drop out. If he wins 60 percent in CA, it's going to the convention.
Inb4 Reck points out it doesnt matter because delegate discrepancy. Tees are tings we know.
an email from Bernie
"Here's the truth: for the past several days, the entirety of the Democratic political establishment has been hoping our political revolution would dissolve, that we would just go away. But one thing is clear, we are only getting stronger:YouGov National Poll - April 27, 2016Those numbers represent a four point gain for our campaign, and it comes entirely after our tough loss in New York"
Clinton: 47%
Sanders: 43%
Hillary would be the most unpopular/low approval Pres ever if elected
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This Is Why Hillary Clinton Can't Tell Bernie Sanders to Drop Out
Hillary Clinton's lead in delegates over rival Bernie Sanders is now almost insurmountable as they move toward the conclusion of the Democratic presidential primary contest. But Clinton has not called on him to drop out of the race, for one simple reason: the example her own campaign set in 2008.
Eight years ago this month, Clinton was trailing hopelessly behind then-Sen. Barack Obama for the Democratic presidential nomination. On May 1, 2008, Clinton loaned her bankrupt campaign $1 million (following at least $10 million in earlier loans).
Before the end of that week, pundits were calling the contest for Obama, whose May 6 win in the North Carolina primary, by 14 points, had made his delegate lead essentially insurmountable. "We now know who the Democratic nominee will be," Tim Russert said on MSNBC after the results came in.
Less than a week later, Obama surpassed Clinton in the super-delegate count, signaling that the party establishment was shifting behind the presumptive nominee.
But Clinton was determined to fight until the last votes had been cast. She would go on to win contests in West Virginia, Kentucky, and South Dakota before the primary ended on June 3, even though there was no way for her to make up her deficit in the delegate count.
Along the way, the Clinton campaign put forward every conceivable argument to justify staying in the race.
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/...p-out-election
Last edited by boutons_deux; 05-02-2016 at 05:32 AM.
I think Bernie may win tonight -- not that he is going to win the nomination though.
Any Bernie bros considering Jill Stein over Clinton in the fall?
The more I've thought about it, assuming he loses the nomination, I really do hope Bernie runs as a 3rd Party candidate. Even if that means a Trump Presidency.
Regardless of how you feel about her, Clinton is likely to be less effective than Obama at working with this Congress. Trump may not be much more effective, thankfully. And the danger of a Trump Presidency can be reduced further by an increase in progressive representation in Congress and at the state and local level.
Bernie may not have a chance at winning the Presidency as a 3rd party candidate but he will bring out the Progressive vote. A Trump vs. Clinton ticket alone would probably have the opposite effect, even though that scenario is better for Clinton.
Last edited by Spurminator; 05-04-2016 at 12:26 PM.
Are you insane?
If the dems lose the presidency they lose the chance to get congress. Reps would have total and complete control in the white house and congress. There will not be any progressive ideas coming out of there in 4 to 8 years.
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