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    The problem with white crime stats is who gets counted as white


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    why is Florida lying about white crime?

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    why is Florida lying about white crime?
    Winehole23---what's your explanation for what we are seeing in the United States? There are more poor whites on welfare than blacks. Why the extreme difference in homicide rates? More policies or cultural?

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    And save the 5 posts in a row talking to yourself. I'm logging off and will be back later.

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    Why the extreme difference in homicide rates? More policies or cultural?
    racism in govt and private policies, in judicial proceeding, in policing, in schooling, etc, etc.

    eg, a recent project tried to rent AirBnB accommodations with "white" names or "black" names. The white names were much more successful than black names.

    racism is stressful, anger-producing, humiliating, discouraging, etc for the victims, which produces to a "nurture" (culture) disaster, doe not prove a "nature" (genetic) inclination.

    your rightwingnut racism is: "after 400 years of slavery, lynchings, oppression, racism, poverty, look these black animals, genetically programmed to be dangerous, violent", while ignoring the Ms of refugees and dead produced by white Christian USA's bull imperial wars. So why aren't white Christians "genetically dangerous"?

    But we all appreciate your extreme hate and prejudice, typical check-box rightwingnut fool, in pushing the idea of "genetically inferior, violent" blacks, as simplistic as it is ignorantly wrong.

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    racism in govt and private policies, in judicial proceeding, in policing, in schooling, etc, etc.

    eg, a recent project tried to rent AirBnB accommodations with "white" names or "black" names. The white names were much more successful than black names.

    racism is stressful, anger-producing, humiliating, discouraging, etc for the victims, which produces to a "nurture" (culture) disaster, doe not prove a "nature" (genetic) inclination.

    your rightwingnut racism is: "after 400 years of slavery, lynchings, oppression, racism, poverty, look these black animals, genetically programmed to be dangerous, violent", while ignoring the Ms of refugees and dead produced by white Christian USA's bull imperial wars. So why aren't white Christians "genetically dangerous"?

    But we all appreciate your extreme hate and prejudice, typical check-box rightwingnut fool, in pushing the idea of "genetically inferior, violent" blacks, as simplistic as it is ignorantly wrong.
    Blacks aren't violently resisting racism, dumbass. They are shooting each other.

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    Blacks aren't violently resisting racism, dumbass. They are shooting each other.
    I didn't say they were. All of what I wrote applies to a small percentage of blacks resorting to crime knowing its the only way they see to get money, power.

    btw, nearly all white murders are white-on-white

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    Winehole23---what's your explanation for what we are seeing in the United States? There are more poor whites on welfare than blacks. Why the extreme difference in homicide rates? More policies or cultural?
    More cultural than political, but probably both. There's no pat answer for mass phenomena -- they are typically overdetermined.

    Poverty, ins utional racism and internalized racism are tough hurdles to clear.

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    racism in govt and private policies, in judicial proceeding, in policing, in schooling, etc, etc.

    eg, a recent project tried to rent AirBnB accommodations with "white" names or "black" names. The white names were much more successful than black names.

    racism is stressful, anger-producing, humiliating, discouraging, etc for the victims, which produces to a "nurture" (culture) disaster, doe not prove a "nature" (genetic) inclination.

    your rightwingnut racism is: "after 400 years of slavery, lynchings, oppression, racism, poverty, look these black animals, genetically programmed to be dangerous, violent", while ignoring the Ms of refugees and dead produced by white Christian USA's bull imperial wars. So why aren't white Christians "genetically dangerous"?

    But we all appreciate your extreme hate and prejudice, typical check-box rightwingnut fool, in pushing the idea of "genetically inferior, violent" blacks, as simplistic as it is ignorantly wrong.
    What's your excuse for blacks in Toronto or London who's families never experienced 400 years of slavery?

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    Or blacks in Africa killing each other by the thousands? The Hutu's are about to start their purge of Tutsi's again.

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    whites killed themselves in Europe for 1000s of year. What's your excuse for those whites? White wars are OK, but black murder isn't excusable?

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    whites killed themselves in Europe for 1000s of year. What's your excuse for those whites? White wars are OK, but black murder isn't excusable?
    It's a little different than two armies squaring off.

    800,000 civilians chopped up with machetes in a few months is more than a little excessive.

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    It's a little different than two armies squaring off.

    800,000 civilians chopped up with machetes in a few months is more than a little excessive.
    yep, just as I thought, white states warring with white states, or Christian white states or Asian states (USSR, Germany, China, Indonesia, Khmer Rouge) slaughtering 10Ms is "different" (better) than black tribes, ethnic groups slaughter each other (while white nations watched passively). Black people are genetically prone to murder, but not whites. Got it, great clarification.

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    whites killed themselves in Europe for 1000s of year. What's your excuse for those whites? White wars are OK, but black murder isn't excusable?
    Those whites figured out their and became civilized.

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    Spurm---what's your explanation for what we are seeing in the United States? There are more poor whites on welfare than blacks. Why the extreme difference in homicide rates? More policies or cultural?
    Plenty of possible causes worth exploring. Black welfare recipients are highly concentrated in cities, where the poverty experience is vastly different from being on welfare in the country. The front lines of illegal drug trade in cities tend to be made up of black men, so turf wars over drugs are going to be fought by black men. Their blackness is no more a root cause of their violence than early 20th century mob wars were a result of Italians' inherent violence.

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    The Hutu's are about to start their purge of Tutsi's again.
    because they're black, right?

    genetic predisposition to slaughter?

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    because they're black, right?

    genetic predisposition to slaughter?
    Yes! It's only civilized if both sides have armies!

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    Even as "hate crimes" were ing?

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    Hate crimes did rise.

    Are you trying to deny this?

    derp

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    fwiw, my opposition to hate crimes legislation has been repeatedly stated in this forum.

    for starters, hate crimes are overkill. the underlying conduct is usually illegal.

    when it's not, hate crime prosecution usually abridges speech.


    e.g., https://theappeal.org/a-black-man-ca...-a-hate-crime/

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    Even as "hate crimes" were ing?
    I don't doubt what you're saying, but can you give us any idea of how many prosecutions we're talking about here?

    I seriously doubt the caseload is big enough to move the needle. nationally or even statewide.

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