Why Apple says iPhone court order violates its free speech

[MultiTroll]

I get it, they are trying to protect innocent people from having their phones hacked into by govt.

That having been said, for phucks sake does their have to be a one size fits all cookie cutter law? If MolestoPhuck is caught with pictures of 2 and 4 year olds zeroing in on their genitalia (granted, still with clothes on), Judge Fabbs has ruled that probable cause has been met. Bust into the rest of his electronic stuff and possibly save who knows how many kids in the future from being molested.

Solitary confinement? I'd hang him up by his nutts if he refused to give a reason why he wont give the passwords. He is OBVIOUSLY hiding something.

Can't common sense prevail?

[ElNono]

I get it, they are trying to protect innocent people from having their phones hacked into by govt.

That having been said, for phucks sake does their have to be a one size fits all cookie cutter law? If MolestoPhuck is caught with pictures of 2 and 4 year olds zeroing in on their genitalia (granted, still with clothes on), Judge Fabbs has ruled that probable cause has been met. Bust into the rest of his electronic stuff and possibly save who knows how many kids in the future from being molested.

Solitary confinement? I'd hang him up by his nutts if he refused to give a reason why he wont give the passwords. He is OBVIOUSLY hiding something.

Can't common sense prevail?

Based on what? The government's word? He's not been charged with any crime as of yet, and the reason we have a 5th amendment is so we're not forced or coerced to prove the government case against us.

If the government doesn't need the passwords to prove their case, why force him to reveal them?

The claim is entirely the government, it's their burden to prove it. Until then, that person is innocent. This solitary confinement under the guise of contempt will not fly for long. Either the government proves it's case, or he has to walk. It's a clear violation of his cons utional rights. And that's exactly how the system should work.

You gotta be careful with this "common sense". One of this days a journalist is going to air the dirty laundry of certain part of government and they'll lock him up in solitary confinement until he provides the password that reveals the whistleblower. A snitch that, in that particular case, would be doing a great service to all of us citizens.

[MultiTroll]

You gotta be careful with this "common sense".

Ok so lets take the above example of MolestaPhuck. But lets say, just for discussions sake, that he is a Chester. He is not being framed, he is not the victim of some incompetent govt police work.

What is the way to proceed with his elec gadgets storing child porn and only Satan knows what else.

[ElNono]

Ok so lets take the above example of MolestaPhuck. But lets say, just for discussions sake, that he is a Chester. He is not being framed, he is not the victim of some incompetent govt police work.

What is the way to proceed with his elec gadgets storing child porn and only Satan knows what else.

What is normally done in cases like this when they can't press charges because they don't have enough evidence: get better evidence. Put him on a 24 hours surveillance, bug his computer, his monitor, his keyboard. If he's a predator, he'll slip up again.

[MultiTroll]

Mister I have seen all the Perry Masons and a good number of Law and Orders.

If they did not have enough evidence then they should not have arrested him. All that served to do is tip him off.

[ElNono]

Mister I have seen all the Perry Masons and a good number of Law and Orders.

If they did not have enough evidence then they should not have arrested him. All that served to do is tip him off.

They were probably unaware he encrypted all his data. Too bad, they'll know better next time.