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    Kevin Ollie is equally unproven. Most NCAA coaches are unable to translate their success in the big league. Thibodeaux is an ISO centric coach, he's also known to run his players to the ground and can be quite difficult. He's a great defensive coordinator but is massively overrated as a coach.


    The Lakers future doesn't rely on Luke Walton, it's a huge misconception, how they draft and how they send their money during this offseason will have a far more bigger impact.
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    doesn't matter who we have if we don't have the talent. the most important thing now is draft right and acquire players that brings a lot of intangibles and good locker room players. that means no derozan no cousins or like that

    and like I said a billion times, this rebuild will take time. so next year will most likely yield the same result but as long as we see progress in development of our young rosters "we good". Man, some ing laker fans are detached from reality lmao. This is a ripple effect after 48, deal with it...

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    Laker hiring process: "Oh hey look at dis new shiny ting, I wants"

    idiots


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    There was absolutely no rebuilding or player development/mentoring going on under Scott or Bryant. The Lakers basically have to start from scratch. Any Laker fan hoping to land a big free agent is nuts. Durant or any other player wanting to win now isn't going near that roster, nor should the Lakers try to waste their money on them. They need to draft and trade for young players. Walton is unproven as a coach, but anything is better than Byron Scott.

    It's going to be a long time before LA is relevant again no matter who is on the bench.

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    There was absolutely no rebuilding or player development/mentoring going on under Scott or Bryant. The Lakers basically have to start from scratch. Any Laker fan hoping to land a big free agent is nuts. Durant or any other player wanting to win now isn't going near that roster, nor should the Lakers try to waste their money on them. They need to draft and trade for young players. Walton is unproven as a coach, but anything is better than Byron Scott.

    It's going to be a long time before LA is relevant again no matter who is on the bench.
    people suggesting they should trade everyone now isn't thinking right, d-snitch and randle wouldn't net us anything of much value


    Let them play a full season, pad their stats and then trade if the opportunity arrives tbh

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    Can't believe Kool is being the voice of reason for laker fan here Respect mi negro

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    Luke's proposed list for assistant coaches: Richard Jefferson, Gilbert Arenas, Nathan Walton, Adam Walton, Chris Walton, Lamar Odom

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    I wonder what's Cubbys take on this...get in here Thread

  8. #108
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    + 1

    doesn't matter who we have if we don't have the talent. the most important thing now is draft right and acquire players that brings a lot of intangibles and good locker room players. that means no derozan no cousins or like that

    and like I said a billion times, this rebuild will take time. so next year will most likely yield the same result but as long as we see progress in development of our young rosters "we good". Man, some ing laker fans are detached from reality lmao. This is a ripple effect after 48, deal with it...

    You never hire the first man that walks through the door and seal the door behind you...this shows they don't have their together and it shows they will continue to make knee jerk media driven decisions which will not translate to success...Walton does not have a resume to inspire younger players...he was a total scrub as a player himself....and I mean total scrub..Luke Walton should not have ever been a player in the NBA.....it was total name recognition.....

    It's easy to be hidden in Golden State because of success....but he will be exposed becsuse of his inexperience and then his daddy will start crying and complaining on his behalf....he's gonna realize quick D'Camera is no Steph Curry, Clarkson is no Clay, and Randle ain't no Green...

    They should have hired a more seasoned coach to develop the young guys....if anything I would have looked at a long time assistant from the Spurs...not some newbie from GS who just doesn't have the experience of coaching a real team..and no Golden State doesn't qualify as a real team..thats a video game team...


    For some reason Luke is a fan favorite when he was really a tty tty player but the Laker Nation fans want him fine... The real problem is Jim and Mitch.....they both are totally inept.....TOTALLY

  9. #109
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    There was absolutely no rebuilding or player development/mentoring going on under Scott or Bryant. The Lakers basically have to start from scratch. Any Laker fan hoping to land a big free agent is nuts. Durant or any other player wanting to win now isn't going near that roster, nor should the Lakers try to waste their money on them. They need to draft and trade for young players. Walton is unproven as a coach, but anything is better than Byron Scott.

    It's going to be a long time before LA is relevant again no matter who is on the bench.
    Meh..depends..if you're throwing in the towel for the next 10 yrs then yes Walton is your guy....player development will always be an issue. Had nothing to do with Kobe....player development starts with Buss and Mitch...they're in the way and are very bad talent evaluators.....Jerry West put Shaq and Kobe and that team together and he's done it again in Golden State...Mitch Kupchak has been completely exposed and now he Jim and Chazz are meddling in all player personnel affairs and consistently miss the mark....

    You hire an experienced coach and balance the roster with stars to teach and develop young players.....Kobe taught those guys more than Luke will ever teach them....

  10. #110
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    You never hire the first man that walks through the door and seal the door behind you...this shows they don't have their together and it shows they will continue to make knee jerk media driven decisions which will not translate to success...Walton does not have a resume to inspire younger players...he was a total scrub as a player himself....and I mean total scrub..Luke Walton should not have ever been a player in the NBA.....it was total name recognition.....

    It's easy to be hidden in Golden State because of success....but he will be exposed becsuse of his inexperience and then his daddy will start crying and complaining on his behalf....he's gonna realize quick D'Camera is no Steph Curry, Clarkson is no Clay, and Randle ain't no Green...

    They should have hired a more seasoned coach to develop the young guys....if anything I would have looked at a long time assistant from the Spurs...not some newbie from GS who just doesn't have the experience of coaching a real team..and no Golden State doesn't qualify as a real team..thats a video game team...


    For some reason Luke is a fan favorite when he was really a tty tty player but the Laker Nation fans want him fine... The real problem is Jim and Mitch.....they both are totally inept.....TOTALLY
    it doesn't matter who they got kool, roster is garbage messina's last coaching gig (in Moscow) was a total failure. coaches have expiration dates too you know and last time he was an offensive consultant with the lakers the lakers couldn't score a bucket lmao.

    and your boy kevin ollie will his pants and quit midsession as soon as the pressure boils his ass


    can't judge any coach when he has a ty squad to play with

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    There was absolutely no rebuilding or player development/mentoring going on under Scott or Bryant. The Lakers basically have to start from scratch. Any Laker fan hoping to land a big free agent is nuts. Durant or any other player wanting to win now isn't going near that roster, nor should the Lakers try to waste their money on them. They need to draft and trade for young players. Walton is unproven as a coach, but anything is better than Byron Scott.

    It's going to be a long time before LA is relevant again no matter who is on the bench.
    Next year it will be "but anything is better than Luke Walton"

    It's not the coach (ok with Scott, that's part of it), it's the culture. The fan base doesn't want a rebuilding team. They won't stand for 3 or 4 years of mediocre ball play and draft position hopes in late seasons. They'll trade the farm for names. They cannot afford not to, Jim is stepping down if they don't do something next season.

    They're the Lakers, they'll make a big move and big names will go there now since Bryant and his ball and chain contract have gone.

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    It's a good start for the lakers. Luke has learned a lot from Kerr who has learned a lot from Pop and Jackson. And plus Luke Walton is still young and has that "bro factor" that could cause the lakers young unit to play together as a cohesive unit and start changing things around? You never know? You would of thought that Steve Kerr would lead a team to victory as a rookie coach? Don't you ever underestimate the heart of a champion. Luke is a champion.
    I disagree with the bro factor logic here. You know that old saying, "The kid doesn't a friend, he needs a parent." The Lakers need a parent right now.

    While the players might like him as "one of the guys," I don't see him commanding their respect, especially from bags like D'Bust, who need a firm that won't put up with .

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    it doesn't matter who they got kool, roster is garbage messina's last coaching gig (in Moscow) was a total failure. coaches have expiration dates too you know and last time he was an offensive consultant with the lakers the lakers couldn't score a bucket lmao.

    and your boy kevin ollie will his pants and quit midsession as soon as the pressure boils his ass


    can't judge any coach when he has a ty squad to play with

    Larry Brown got the most out of his ty squads....Luke is from the Phil Jackson school of thought..which is gonna be disastrous...they're are no MJ's and Kobe's in the league..they allowed Phil a level of arrogance that was unprecedented....Luke prances around Golden State trying to act so cool because he has a great squad... That is easy... That gay ass pretty boy wannabe prancing won't work in LA....he's gonna have to have fire that cool as a cookie Phil Jackson initiation bull won't fly....thats my point...Walton is not real like a Larry Brown or even Popovich...he's pretentious and metrosexual and it won't translate into wins.... wins I want to see if it translates into motivation of his young squad...

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    I still think Ollie will be an excellent coach.

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    Larry Brown got the most out of his ty squads....Luke is from the Phil Jackson school of thought..which is gonna be disastrous...they're are no MJ's and Kobe's in the league..they allowed Phil a level of arrogance that was unprecedented....Luke prances around Golden State trying to act so cool because he has a great squad... That is easy... That gay ass pretty boy wannabe prancing won't work in LA....he's gonna have to have fire that cool as a cookie Phil Jackson initiation bull won't fly....thats my point...Walton is not real like a Larry Brown or even Popovich...he's pretentious and metrosexual and it won't translate into wins.... wins I want to see if it translates into motivation of his young squad...
    brown had a prime Iverson and a formidable detroit squad Walton will be working with d-snitch and larry Nancy's illegitimate son lmao

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    I still think Ollie will be an excellent coach.
    he'll be good like any other coach if the situation is ideal. coaches are pretty much in a black and white situation. Heck tyrone lue is on his way to an NBA final appearance with less than a full season of coaching under his resume

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    he'll be good like any other coach if the situation is ideal. coaches are pretty much in a black and white situation. Heck tyrone lue is on his way to an NBA final appearance with less than a full season of coaching under his resume
    Yeah, I just think a big part in being a successful coach these days is reaching through to these millenials. Ollie seems to be respected by alot of players. Idk we will see though.

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    Yeah, I just think a big part in being a successful coach these days is reaching through to these millenials.
    Yeah, these new wave of Instagram players doesn't respect the coaches credentials they built in the 80's or 90's. It's important to have continuity so it's not a surprise that the Spurs are still successful, they have a great culture and professionalism embedded by Pops since day one..

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    brown had a prime Iverson and a formidable detroit squad Walton will be working with d-snitch and larry Nancy's illegitimate son lmao

    You miss the point..it's not about having a prime Iverson per se..its about coaching up your marginal talent which Brown could do becsuse of his passion and leadership....not becsuse of how he sounded and looked in his suits...

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    So how much clout and pull will Walton have? When he disagrees with Mitch and Buss what is he gonna say? Absolutely nothing...they're gonna tell him to go sit his ass in a corner and be thankful they gave his young ass a job...same reason they got rid of Phil....Jim and Mitch were livid he had power beyond coaching and not just from Jeannie but he had Media power....and that Media power was a threat to them...so now they're hiring guys who they perceive are weak, yes men or otherwise have no media clout to sway their god aweful "basketball reasons"...


    It's a total con job Laker Nation...I see how they're over their circle jerking at LG...excuse me if I choose not to celebrate ahead of the impending atom bomb...yall go ahead though...

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    You miss the point..it's not about having a prime Iverson per se..its about coaching up your marginal talent which Brown could do becsuse of his passion and leadership....not becsuse of how he sounded and looked in his suits...
    I didn't miss the point, I'm firm with my belief. It doesn't matter who they bring in, it's a garbage roster and our best player is a second round pick with Monta Ellis ceiling.


    I'm ok with the hire for now. We needed someone who can develop the assets we have and Luke appears to be the right guy. The next step is to draft right, use the cap wisely. Let's talk about brining in marquee players when we finally have a solid foundation.

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    I'm ok with the hire for now. We needed someone who can develop the assets we have and Luke appears to be the right guy.

    Lets explore this further...how and why? What's the basis?

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    Lets explore this further...how and why? What's the basis?
    We wont know for sure, but this is a move that shouldn't be judged now. Lakers went with a brilliant offensive coach (D'Antoni) an excellent defensive coordinator (Brown) and an old school coach who stresses discipline (Scott), didn't pan out, did they? And mind you, two of them had a benefit of carrying a loaded roster.


    You want Ollie but on what basis? He could very well be just another NCAA coach that crapped out in the big league. Brad Stevens is one of those exceptional exclusion. Messina? His NBA resume hasn't been very impressive. Thibs? Not with this roster. Everyone will be screaming "fire" after year one.



    Walton is a favorite because he's well regarded in the NBA circle, and what they do behind the scenes is paramount to their reputation. These are things, we us fans have limited access to.



    This should be a 2 year objective PAR. Let's stop pretending we all know he's going to be a success or failure, no one knows

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    I like this hire because we get to see how much coaching really matters. Warriors-to-Lakers is about the biggest talent downgrade possible. Though Kobe being gone raises the Lakers' talent level some.

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    Rsx ....just fyi...they made this hire for one reason and one reason only...ok two reasons

    1.) they're total ups
    2.) to keep the media off their backs...he's a consensus favorite and nice guy because "everyone loves Golden State" ....they figure since everyone is ok with Luke why not hire him to help give us media "cover"....since they have no desire to win....the only reason they pretended to before was because Kobe demanded it from them...now its time to lay back in the cut and save more money...yall can fall for their but I see exactly what they're doing...and from a business perspective it makes sense..no Kobe no windfall profits outside of the Cable deal....its time to preserve and save....

    Luke provides them temporary cover...its not about player development..well only on theory it is...

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