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The beautiful game is gone. We're last year's Portland with better defense and worse (offensively) guards.
Yeah, surprised no Spurs has ever pulled b2b 38+ pts. One could thought 2003 Timmy might have pulled that too. Akthough the stat is a bit of a cherry pick 'cause Manu did put up b2b 37 pts game in 2008 against the Mavs and Jazz.Thanks for the info.Surprised the Admiral never did it. Young TImmy always had balanced teams, but sometimes in the 90's it seemed David was the only option.
The beautiful game is gone. We're last year's Portland with better defense and worse (offensively) guards.
We should have won this game frankly.
I remember Patty chucking and not running any offense except for himself running off a screen. Really dislike Patty heroballing.
Agree 1000%I remember Patty chucking and not running any offense except for himself running off a screen. Really dislike Patty heroballing.
Bill for me the game was lost was when Westbrick went to the bench and was pouting but KD was still in and Pop decided to go with the offensively challenged second unit of Patty Manu, KA, Bobo and DWest, oh there was a lot of passing and no scoring. This is the playoffs there should be no reason forThe beautiful game is gone.and
to ever both be out of the game at the same time, except for the case of a blowout. Instead of catching up to the Thunderefs they extended their lead, smh.
IT was also frustrating to see Bobo revert to Diaw 1.0. He had like 5 open looks and chose to pass the ball to predictable cuts that the Thunder Defense negated. One of the reasons why TBG worked so well in 2014 (with that particular assortment of players sans West and with Tiago) was because the wide open shots were always high efficient daggers. The strategy breaks down when the wide open looks generated by all that ball movement are passed up by reluctant shooters. SMH.Bill for me the game was lost was when Westbrick went to the bench and was pouting but KD was still in and Pop decided to go with the offensively challenged second unit of Patty Manu, KA, Bobo and DWest, oh there was a lot of passing and no scoring. This is the playoffs there should be no reason for
Still in' steaming this morning. I absolutely hate it when historically great play isn't rewarded with a win.
I love Kawhi. My favorite Spur of the coming post-Duncan generation, but he better come correct next game. 14 points on 7-18 shooting is just unacceptable in a key playoff home game for an MVP candidate in his prime.
Agree 100%. I almost wonder if Kawhi has injured his quad or hammy very slightly and Pop was limiting his minutes. But yeah that lineup was terrible. Hope to never see it again except for garbage time.Bill for me the game was lost was when Westbrick went to the bench and was pouting but KD was still in and Pop decided to go with the offensively challenged second unit of Patty Manu, KA, Bobo and DWest, oh there was a lot of passing and no scoring. This is the playoffs there should be no reason for
it doesn't look good on him that the supposed playoff underperformer/choker/softie is putting the team on his back in his first season while an "MVP candidate" pulls a disapperance act when needed most for the second post-season in row..Folks bring those last 3 games of the 2014 Finals series as an example of Kawhi big game pedigree, but it was a actually more of a collective effort....even in Game 5 of the Finals, the series was headed back to Miami after a similarly dismal 1st quarter until old fart Manu willed us back into the game taking charges and dunking on fools..Kawhi still has some questions to answer when the going gets tough...
I've always been skeptical of the idea that Kawhi can turn into an elite offensive player. He has shown many flashes of eliteness, but then always seems to have a few mediocre follow up moments/games. His blind fans blame Pop, the system, Parker, etc, but Kevin Durant has little problem exploding for big points on great efficiency in one of the worst offensive systems in the NBA, in a lineup that doesn't really complement KD's overall skill set very well. Ibaka is a poor floor spacer (I know Serge can hit the 3, but he's not really a threat to go off like a real stretch 4). Adams doesn't space the floor at all. Robertson is non-factor. And Westbrook is prone to ballhogging.
The main issues that I think hold Kawhi back:
- Dribbling. He's improving. But he isn't as good as a KD or Lebron at creating a shot off the dribble. Kawhi usually needs to get the ball in his spots in the post or when he spots up behind the 3 point line. He's not bad at creating for himself, but he's not on the level of the league's elite scorers.
- Penetration. Again, shows flashes, and then will inexplicably abandon attacking the paint. Might be a confidence issue in his comparative lack of ball handling skills or speed. Kawhi has a few highlight dunks in traffic, but a player like Lebron routinely "dunks on fools" every game. With Kawhi, that's maybe a once in a 20 game event.
I still think he's a top 3 player in the league, because his all around game is so strong, but I'm not sure he's ready for offensive first option duties.
Kawhi is the best player on our team because of his other-worldly defense, but in terms of being a natural scorer LMA may be better. Kawhi is an over-achiever that's improving all the time, but some guys are just scorers by nature. I think LMA is one of those.
But we should wait and see. Kawhi might be ready to uncork a masterpiece.
Indeed. And I've always supported the idea that Kawhi shouldn't carry an excessive offensive load because of the effect it would have on his defense, rebounding, etc.Kawhi is the best player on our team because of his other-worldly defense, but in terms of being a natural scorer LMA may be better. Kawhi is an over-achiever that's improving all the time, but some guys are just scorers by nature. I think LMA is one of those.
But we should wait and see. Kawhi might be ready to uncork a masterpiece.
Problem is now he's going to be forced into that. No possible way LMA continues this. And with the way the role players are ting their pants, Kawhi is going to have to pick up what might be an unmanageable amount of slack.
Maybe I'm too cynical toward the role players, but the last 2 months have shown otherwise. Green, Patty, Parker, whomever, will have a great game, we all declare "He's back!" and then they follow up with 5 games in a row with 3-11, 2-7, 1-5 disappearing acts.
Our most consistent role-players are Green (defensively) and Manu (offensively). Everyone else has shown flashes throughout the season. We really need a third scorer to rise up. Parker is best suited for that role but I'm not sure he still has it in him. Green can get hot but it will come and go as we know. Boris might pull a Horry but not in this series with all that OKC size.
Timmy, we need you man. Give us one more run.
Balls his ass off, still loses. Spurs will probably be ok to beat okc. Durant is gonna leave and it's blood in the water for the spurs. But game 2 is your preview of the warriors series, folks. Dude can ball like a winner, but the loss is coming. Black hole superstar sucks up stats that were meant for Kawhi, Diaw, Timmy. Doesn't create ball, just redistributes it. Socialist spurs-ball supreme.
In a better world, we're celebrating this:
...oh and notice how the Blazers have a Curry injury shot at being the west finals opponent? getting rid of lame is better than getting lame.
I think the Blazers have no chance of winning this series even if Curry doesn't play. They are just not talented enough to beat GS. I feel GS would lose to Spurs,OKC, healthy Clippers team, and Cavs if they had to play without Curry but against average to mediocre teams they can still win without him.
Quit posting, and get some help
There was no "black hole," dip . LMA played 43 minutes and took only 26 shots counting freethrow attempts. His 41 points came as a result of out-of-this-world efficiency, not ball dominant volume shooting.
But yeah, let's give more attempts to a 40 year old Duncan who was 1-8 and couldn't solve Adams
He's an incredibly terrible poster. LMA has made him look stupid, but he's too bull-headed to admit how massively wrong he was.Quit posting, and get some help
A "blackhole" taking 21 raw shot attempts in 43 minutes
If anything, LMA didn't get enough shot attempts.
Just depressing how much Tim has fallen off. A year ago he would easily win this matchup.There was no "black hole," dip . LMA played 43 minutes and took only 26 shots counting freethrow attempts. His 41 points came as a result of out-of-this-world efficiency, not ball dominant volume shooting.
But yeah, let's give more attempts to a 40 year old Duncan who was 1-8 and couldn't solve Adams
No. The Blazers got a Chris Paul and Blake Griffin injury "shot" into the next round.
He's been great, tbh, 2nd best big in the playoffs behind Draymond..
Spurs aren't winning a le with this Aldridge/Kawhi iso offense, though, unfortunately..it's fine vs. poor defensive teams, but I doubt it'll work vs. the Warriors or Cavs..
I don't think the iso-offense is by design, but by necessity. I think Pop and Co's idea with this roster build was that LMA and Kawhi would obviously be our 1-2 punch, while Tony, who got a 15ppg player level contract, was to be the 3rd wheel and offensive engine.
It's really tough to run a fluid offense when you don't have consistent penetration from your perimeter players. It's why the offense looks so much better with Manu running point. He can still decently penetrate and get the defense collapsing and rotating. Parker penetrates like once every 30 possessions now it seems.
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