Clippers or OKC

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

He said the spurs should win "without much trouble". I suppose that prediction doesn't include a game 7. To prevent a game 7, Spurs need to win 2 out of 3 in reflahoma.

Come on, everyone with half a brain knew since early october the series was going to be tough 6 or 7 games. Why bite on Harlem'stakes?

[DAF86]

Come on, everyone with half a brain knew since early october the series was going to be tough 6 or 7 games. Why bite on Harlem'stakes?

Lot of folks here were talking about 5 easy games, and none of them were trolling.

[Kawhitstorm]

They won game 2 by 1-point on a blown call

Spurs should be embarrassed if they lose this series against a team that ranked in the bottom 10 in defense vs. +500 teams, and barely had a winning record against +.500 teams..shouldn't be an issue, they will win the series, won't be too much trouble IMO..

This shyt was similar to the game OKC lost to the Mavs when Durant missed a layup & Adams put back got called off.

[Kawhitstorm]

Lot of folks here were talking about 5 easy games, and none of them were trolling.

Even w/ WB/KD/Ibaka going off (along w/ Adams dominating the paint) the Spurs would have won the game if they didn't sleepwalk & got down 19-6 to start the game.

They actually had a shot to win the game on the final possession w/ Kawhi/Patty throwing up bricks in the 2nd half & Tim missing point blank layups. (Let's not even mention Pop & the refs)
PSA: The Mavs/Rockets won a game when OKC/GSW were having bad shooting nights.

[DAF86]

Even w/ WB/KD/Ibaka going off (along w/ Adams dominating the paint) the Spurs would have won the game if they didn't sleepwalk & got down 19-6 to start the game.

They actually had a shot to win the game on the final possession w/ Kawhi/Patty throwing up bricks in the 2nd half & Tim missing point blank layups. (Let's not even mention Pop & the refs)
PSA: The Mavs/Rockets won a game when OKC/GSW were having bad shooting nights.

And the next game we lose in this series you will come up with another excuse to try to rationalize what in your mind should be an easy series.

The truth is, OKC has always played SAS tough. There's just something about that matchup that makes life dufficult for us. And I know that they don't have Harden or Jackson anymore, or as good as defense as they used to have. That's what makes us the favourites instead of the underdogs. But that still doesn't transform this matchup into a walk on the park. OKC gives the Spurs fits and will always give them fits as long as Durant and Westbrook (and to a lesser extent Ibaka) are there. They have 2 of the 5 best players in the World for sakes. Of course they are going to be tough, no matter what they put around them.

I know you don't like to be proven wrong and will keep posting stuff up to try to spin it your way but reality trumps theory and the reality tells us that we are flying to OKC 1-1.

[Kawhitstorm]

And the next game we lose in this series you will come up with another excuse to try to rationalize what in your mind should be an easy series.

The truth is, OKC has always played SAS tough. There's just something about that matchup that makes life dufficult for us. And I know that they don't have Harden or Jackson anymore, or as good as defense as they used to have. That's what makes us the favourites instead of the underdogs. But that still doesn't transform this matchup into a walk on the park. OKC gives the Spurs fits and will always give them fits as long as Durant and Westbrook (and to a lesser extent Ibaka) are there. They have 2 of the 5 best players in the World for sakes. Of course they are going to be tough, no matter what they put around them.

I know you don't like to be proven wrong and will keep posting stuff up to try to spin it your way but reality trumps theory and the reality tells us that we are flying to OKC 1-1.

So, the 2014 Mavs were a tough matchup b/c it went 7? (If the Spurs are going to sleepwalk & switch bigs onto Westbrick then he's going to eat them alive just like Monta Ellis except Kawhi can guard WestBrick unlike Monta)

If the Clippers had Blake/Cp3/Re going off w/ DeAndre dominating then it would have been a 20 point blowout, meanwhile OKC had to dodge a wide open shot by Patty to pullout a win. Even the 2014 Mavs blewout the Spurs in Gm 2 at AT&T when they came out of the gates sleepwalking & that's the team that demolished the Heat.

At the end of the day, the Spurs should be able to beat OKC 4 out of 5 times if they showup at tip-off. If the Spurs play a complete game then even WB/KD/Ibaka going off & Adams dominating wouldn't matter as we saw tonight.

I'm waiting for you to claim the 2015 Rockets were better than the Clippers b/c they beat them in 7.

[DAF86]

So, the 2014 Mavs were a tough matchup b/c it went 7?

Mmmh, pretty much. Yeah.

if the Clippers had Blake/Cp3/Re going off w/ DeAndre dominating then it would have been a 20 point blowout, meanwhile OKC had to dodge a wide open shot by Patty to pullout a win. Even the 2014 Mavs blewout the Spurs in Gm 2 at AT&T when they came out of the gates sleepwalking & that's the team that demolished the Heat.

When was the last time the Clippers have been healthy by round 2 of the playoffs? And when they were, when did they proved they can get over the hump and not choke it up? The Clippers are a lesser team than the Thunder. They have proven so all regular season long and they have proven it on these playoffs too. They don't have any top 5 player (much less two), they didn't have the record, they didn't have the health, they don't have the second round and they have never proven . They barely escaped, last season, against a much worse Spurs team with home court. There was no chance whatsoever of them eliminating the Spurs again this season.

Now, I still think we should beat OKC but I do have some kind of fear about a team having two top 5 players being able to pull the upset. That wouldn't have happened against LAC.

I know you will try to come up with some more "impossible to prove" theories about why getting LAC on our side of the bracket would have been worse, because you clearly have some kind of problem with accepting losing a debate/argument but it's waaaay to late for this . Im going to want to kick myself for staying this late tomorrow when I wake up to work.

[Kawhitstorm]

Mmmh, pretty much. Yeah.

We all saw how tough of a matchup the 2014 Mavs were when the REAL Spurs showed up right from tip off in Gm 7 & run them out of the building.

I know you will try to come up with some more "impossible to prove" theories about why getting LAC on our side of the bracket would have been worse, because you clearly have some kind of problem with accepting losing a debate/argument but it's waaaay to late for this . Im going to want to kick myself for staying this late tomorrow when I wake up to work.

You are the one coming up w/ the Clippers "impossible to prove" "Clippers curse" theory. I didn't say the Clippers would be the Spurs, I said they would be a more difficult matchup that OKC b/c Chris Paul can get anything he wants even against Kawhi b/c he isn't a low IQ chucker, Danny can't keep up w/ Re , Blake can actually postup unlike Ibaka & DeAndre can protect the rim better than 2016 Ibaka.

Whether the Clippers go up 3-1 & choke in the 4th quarter of Gm 7 is irrelevant b/c I don't see OKC going up 3-1 as long as the Spurs aren't sleepwalking ala 2014 vs. Mavs. Besides, there was the other factor of the Clippers being a tougher matchup than OKC for the Warriors b/c the Warriors feast on undisciplined teams like OKC.

[spurraider21]

okc is still a preferable opponent to the clippers (at full strength, obviously)

[Kawhitstorm]

okc is still a preferable opponent to the clippers (at full strength, obviously)

According to DAF86, you only look at the wins & loss (along w/ "curse" theories) not how teams performed.

[DAF86]

According to DAF86, you only look at the wins & loss (along w/ "curse" theories) not how teams performed.

No, I actually gave a lot of reasons to explain why I think OKC would have been a tougher out than the Clippers but since you refuse to listen to anybody else. What better than looking at what is actually happening in real life?

[DAF86]

We all saw how tough of a matchup the 2014 Mavs were when the REAL Spurs showed up right from tip off in Gm 7 & run them out of the building.



You are the one coming up w/ the Clippers "impossible to prove" "Clippers curse" theory. I didn't say the Clippers would be the Spurs, I said they would be a more difficult matchup that OKC b/c Chris Paul can get anything he wants even against Kawhi b/c he isn't a low IQ chucker, Danny can't keep up w/ Re , Blake can actually postup unlike Ibaka & DeAndre can protect the rim better than 2016 Ibaka.

Whether the Clippers go up 3-1 & choke in the 4th quarter of Gm 7 is irrelevant b/c I don't see OKC going up 3-1 as long as the Spurs aren't sleepwalking ala 2014 vs. Mavs. Besides, there was the other factor of the Clippers being a tougher matchup than OKC for the Warriors b/c the Warriors feast on undisciplined teams like OKC.

So, if this ends up being a tough 6 or 7 games series it won't be because the Thunder are tough, it will be because the Spurs would have been "sleepwaking" in the WCSF against a team with 2 top 5 players and that has already beaten the Spurs in the playoffs. Ok, then.

You have all the angles covered here and you can't lose. Good for you son.

[Kawhitstorm]

So, if this ends up being a tough 6 or 7 games series it won't be because the Thunder are tough, it will be because the Spurs would have been "sleepwaking" in the WCSF against a team with 2 top 5 players and that has already beaten the Spurs in the playoffs. Ok, then.

Bruh, I think we call ALL agree the Spurs were "sleepwalking" to start the game (terrible transition defense), missed a bunch of POINT BLANK layups plus Pop coached a bad game (rotation, switching PnRs, benching Kawhi)...RIGHT?

[Kawhitstorm]

No, I actually gave a lot of reasons to explain why I think OKC would have been a tougher out than the Clippers but since you refuse to listen to anybody else. What better than looking at what is actually happening in real life?

WB didn't score a SINGLE basket against Kawhi meanwhile Chris Paul was scoring at will against Kawhi in the 2015 series. (WB was feasting on transition baskets, Manu & switches)

The main difference b/w the Cripples/Meth City is the head of the snake. Kawhi/Danny are basically a non factor on defense against Paul/Re & on top of knocking down mid-range shots, Blake can actually postup & abuse mismatches unlike Ibaka. Not to mention LMA would have had to play defense against Blake which would have affected his offensive output or even have gotten him in foul trouble.

Meanwhile, your argument for why OKC is a tougher matchup is to SIMPLY state they had two top 5 players without ANALYZING the matchups just like a degenerate causal fan. Ever heard of the expression "styles make fights"?

Russy turned into WestBrick when Kawhi was hounding him & he couldn't get transition baskets in the 2nd half. Thanks to Pop they kept switching the PnRs & putting LMA on WB which was the only time he scored in the 2nd half: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lV9LRdSLHeQ

[DAF86]

WB didn't score a SINGLE basket against Kawhi meanwhile Chris Paul was scoring at will against Kawhi in the 2015 series. (WB was feasting on transition baskets, Manu & switches)

The main difference b/w the Cripples/Meth City is the head of the snake. Kawhi/Danny are basically a non factor on defense against Paul/Re & on top of knocking down mid-range shots, Blake can actually postup & abuse mismatches unlike Ibaka. Not to mention LMA would have had to play defense against Blake which would have affected his offensive output or even have gotten him in foul trouble.

Meanwhile, your argument for why OKC is a tougher matchup is to SIMPLY state they had two top 5 players without ANALYZING the matchups just like a degenerate causal fan. Ever heard of the expression "styles make fights"?

Russy turned into WestBrick when Kawhi was hounding him & he couldn't get transition baskets in the 2nd half. Thanks to Pop they kept switching the PnRs & putting LMA on WB which was the only time he scored in the 2nd half: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lV9LRdSLHeQ

Yeah, I've heard of "style makes fights", and OKC style has always given San Antonio fits. Including this season where they are 3-3. No other team has beaten the Spurs more this year than OKC.

[Kawhitstorm]

Yeah, I've heard of "style makes fights", and OKC style has always given San Antonio fits. Including this season where they are 3-3. No other team has beaten the Spurs more this year than OKC.

LMAO, they played essentially one REAL game in the regular season (two if you want to count LMA's Spurs debut).

Cripples split the season series 2-2 including BLOWING OUT the Spurs WITHOUT Blake & were the only away team to lead in the 4th quarter at AT&T for the 1st half of the season. They were also the only team to beat the Spurs at AT&T more than once last season when the Spurs also had an epic home record.

Kawhi has shutdown WB this season while Chris Paul has feasted w/ or w/o Blake.

[DAF86]

Blah, blah, blah yet here we are, tied at 1 a piece and going to OKC while Paul and Blake are fishing somewhere.

[Kawhitstorm]

Blah, blah, blah yet here we are, tied at 1 a piece and going to OKC while Paul and Blake are fishing somewhere.

What a concise analysis. (I guess the 2015 Spurs were trash b/c they got bounced in the 1st rd, injuries are a non-factor)

[DAF86]

What a concise analysis. (I guess the 2015 Spurs were trash b/c they got bounced in the 1st rd, injuries are a non-factor)

The funny thing is that if somehow the Spurs lose this series, you would still somehow give no credit whatsoever to the Thunder being a tough opponent. You would just try to find an excuse to justify yourself because you think you can never be wrong.

[TD 21]

All you ing idiots talking like this would be a walk in the park come here and start spinning.

[Kawhitstorm]

The funny thing is that if somehow the Spurs lose this series, you would still somehow give no credit whatsoever to the Thunder being a tough opponent. You would just try to find an excuse to justify yourself because you think you can never be wrong.

Dummy, if the Spurs get outplayed rather than beat themselves then I have no issues giving credit to OKC. Gm 2 had to do w/ OKC taking advantage of the Spurs mishaps (mostly getting transition buckets off missed layups), it's not something the Spurs can't cleanup.

For example, the Cripples beat the Spurs by picking & rolling 'em to death to which the Spurs had no answer whatsoever. On the other hand, the Cripples beat themselves against the Rockets. If OKC beats the Spurs 3 out of 5 times w/ the Ibaka/WB PnR then I'll be the first one to point it out. In Gm 2, the Spurs outscored OKC by 11 even when Ibaka/WB were feasting against LMA on PnRs.

[DAF86]

Dummy, if the Spurs get outplayed rather than beat themselves then I have no issues giving credit to OKC. Gm 2 had to do w/ OKC taking advantage of the Spurs mishaps (mostly getting transition buckets off missed layups), it's not something the Spurs can't cleanup.

Yeah, because those things aren't subjective at all. Everybody gets on the same page when deciding if the winning team was too good or the losing team too awful.

[Kawhitstorm]

Yeah, because those things aren't subjective at all. Everybody gets on the same page when deciding if the winning team was too good or the losing team too awful.

If missing 6 or 7 point blank layups & getting down 19-6 b/c of terrible transition defense isn't awful then I don't know what you consider "awful".

Again, the Spurs outscored OKC by 11 after that 19-6 start despite everyone outside of LMA/Manu having an atrocious shooting night. Meaning, if they cleaned up their mistakes a little bit they could still win while having a subpar shooting night along w/ Ibaka/WB/KD going off & the ALMOST did if it wasn't for a botched up 3-on-1 fastbreak. On the other hand, OKC has no answer for LMA just like the Spurs had no answer for Chris Paul.

[dbreiden83080]

We beat them 2 years ago and we will do it again. Chill guys. It's funny how any little bump in the road and people throw the le hopes out the window. 2 years ago going 7 games with Dallas, everyone jumped ship..

[DAF86]

C'mon Kawhitstorm, let me hear the excuses for tonight's game. I know your irrational need of trying to convince yourself you can't ever be wrong won't dissapoint.