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    Has anybody taken a look at rebounding numbers?

    By looking at the game it just looked like they allowed more offensive rebounds.

    This is for me very critical since their bigs are happy waiting for WB to throw whatever and collecting garbage points from that.

    They have to constantly block out, like crazy. This has a lot to do with effort and focus which is IMO easier to control than putting on a 70% shooting performance.

    They were skewed early on due to the Spurs start, but the one offensive rebound that sticks out to me is the alley oop pass thrown by Waiters. that hit the back board, goes between Duncan and Aldridge, and goes right to Steven Adams for a dunk.

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    Has anybody taken a look at rebounding numbers?

    By looking at the game it just looked like they allowed more offensive rebounds.

    This is for me very critical since their bigs are happy waiting for WB to throw whatever and collecting garbage points from that.

    They have to constantly block out, like crazy. This has a lot to do with effort and focus which is IMO easier to control than putting on a 70% shooting performance.
    This reminds a lot of the Laker teams that had Bynum,Gasol,Odom. All 3 of those guys were the same way in that regard they were obsessed with getting offensive rebounds knowing that's where half of their points were going to come from due to Kobe's chucking.

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    This forum was too y and arrogant after game 1 and we got punished, now we're in denger, i don't think this team is tough enough to win at their building, seeing how bad our record playing their, we probably need a fluke game in order to get a win, but with momentum shifting to OKC side and Pop keep being with that unlucky beard, that making things even harder...

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    They were skewed early on due to the Spurs start, but the one offensive rebound that sticks out to me is the alley oop pass thrown by Waiters. that hit the back board, goes between Duncan and Aldridge, and goes right to Steven Adams for a dunk.
    That was unlucky and irritating. Can't really blame the Spurs, but I just think the Spurs might need to be borderline obsessed with blocking those guys out because they will happily win games off the attention their stars get.

    This reminds a lot of the Laker teams that had Bynum,Gasol,Odom. All 3 of those guys were the same way in that regard they were obsessed with getting offensive rebounds knowing that's where half of their points were going to come from due to Kobe's chucking.
    Haven't seen it like that. It actually works for them because their stars can keep shooting, and the bigs get motivation and better numbers as long as they're successful

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    Of course, no matter how down we are over the loss , games like these with the result coming down to the last play are why we watch sports. The visceral rush of will they or won't they succeed, no pre-scripted outcome, etc. Remember how many of us were actually bored during the Grizzlies series, right? This is what we wanted isn't it? A compe ive, exciting series...
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    Doom-sayers fully out. Skip, Barkley, all the pundits. One home loss by one point and its all over.
    Skip quit on the Spurs again? Nothing new there.

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    Haven't seen it like that. It actually works for them because their stars can keep shooting, and the bigs get motivation and better numbers as long as they're successful
    Yeah I hated those laker teams because it was excruciating to watch Kobe shoot a bunch of bricks knowing he had a safety net in that big frontline getting offensive rebounds and second chance points to bail his ass out. I remember seeing games where Kobe would shoot 4 bricks on 1 offensive possession but the Lakers would have 4 offensive rebounds and then a tip in. Those plays were momentum killers and would cause teams to give up and quit. I remember back in '11 being one of few people to predict the Mavs would beat the Lakers simply because the Mavs had the size to deny the Lakers the offensive rebounds and second chance points they need to win games. With the mavs taking away the Lakers strength their offense got exposed as just Kobe chucking a bunch of bad shots.

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    Yeah I hated those laker teams because it was excruciating to watch Kobe shoot a bunch of bricks knowing he had a safety net in that big frontline getting offensive rebounds and second chance points to bail his ass out. I remember seeing games where Kobe would shoot 4 bricks on 1 offensive possession but the Lakers would have 4 offensive rebounds and then a tip in. Those plays were momentum killers and would cause teams to give up and quit. I remember back in '11 being one of few people to predict the Mavs would beat the Lakers simply because the Mavs had the size to deny the Lakers the offensive rebounds and second chance points they need to win games. With the mavs taking away the Lakers strength their offense got exposed as just Kobe chucking a bunch of bad shots.
    And JJ Barea

    Had a quick look at the numbers for the Playoffs in Fox. Thunder are 2nd as a team in 2nd chance points with 101.
    Raptors have 112.

    Would like to see about this series.
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    Skip quit on the Spurs again? Nothing new there.
    Truth.

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    And JJ Barea

    Had a quick look at the numbers for the Playoffs in Fox. Thunder are 2nd as a team in 2nd chance points with 101.
    Raptors have 112.

    Would like to see about this series.
    The Spurs have to find a way to limit the offensive rebounds. If they can do that Adams and Kanter become disengaged on the offensive end due to Westbrook not passing them the ball. Even Ibacka has gotten emotional this year about not getting enough touches. Got to find a way to stop Adams/Kanter/Ibacka offensively. Take those 3 away and the thunder default to being a two man team.

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    Yeah I hated those laker teams because it was excruciating to watch Kobe shoot a bunch of bricks knowing he had a safety net in that big frontline getting offensive rebounds and second chance points to bail his ass out. I remember seeing games where Kobe would shoot 4 bricks on 1 offensive possession but the Lakers would have 4 offensive rebounds and then a tip in. Those plays were momentum killers and would cause teams to give up and quit. I remember back in '11 being one of few people to predict the Mavs would beat the Lakers simply because the Mavs had the size to deny the Lakers the offensive rebounds and second chance points they need to win games. With the mavs taking away the Lakers strength their offense got exposed as just Kobe chucking a bunch of bad shots.
    If the Mavs did not get knocked out in 010 they had the team to match up with LA and go to the finals IMO (They did a year later). That Dallas team was constructed to beat LA and they matched up very well with them, most predicted the 2nd seeded Mavs in 2010 would give LA fits or even could beat them if I remember right. The Spurs derailed that as we know but that Mavs team was built to beat LA.

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    If the Mavs did not get knocked out in 010 they had the team to match up with LA and go to the finals IMO (They did a year later). That Dallas team was constructed to beat LA and they matched up very well with them, most predicted the 2nd seeded Mavs in 2010 would give LA fits or even could beat them if I remember right. The Spurs derailed that as we know but that Mavs team was built to beat LA.
    I felt they definitely had a chance to beat the Lakers in '10 but they only had Haywood and Dirk. I felt the Mavs getting Chandler in the summer of '10 gave them the size to match up with the Lakers. By getting Chandler they now had 3 legit 7 fters to counter the Lakers 7fters in Gasol,Odom,Bynum. I felt having a third tower was crucial just in case of foul trouble.

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    I felt they definitely had a chance to beat the Lakers in '10 but they only had Haywood and Dirk. I felt the Mavs getting Chandler in the summer of '10 gave them the size to match up with the Lakers. By getting Chandler they now had 3 legit 7 fters to counter the Lakers 7fters in Gasol,Odom,Bynum. I felt having a third tower was crucial just in case of foul trouble.
    That is right they did add Chandler later, forgot about that move. I thought he was there in 010 but I was wrong. This is like Detroit when they got Rasheed, they were then built to crush the LA Frontline and able to defeat them. The Spurs did similar in 99 with a big frontline, that seemed the key to beating LA in the playoffs. Just change out Shaq for Gasol later and Odom too, a big frontline could beat that team in the playoffs and limit their killer second chance points they used to hit you with. When Boston lost Perkins in those finals they lost it essentially, if they have him they win those finals IMHO. I also forgot how Good Bynum was at that time, another good point.

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    They harp on Tony's struggles but con uously omit Tim's. Almost certainly out of respect.
    40 years old.

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    We was robbed!!


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    Has anybody taken a look at rebounding numbers?

    By looking at the game it just looked like they allowed more offensive rebounds.
    Tim blocked out Adams just fine in the 2nd half, it was Kanter that ate West/Diaw's lunch whenever they were in the game even w/ LMA. Pop should really considering giving Boban 10-15 minutes & not playing Diaw unless Durant is playing the 4 along w/ NEVER trotting out the Diaw/West tandem.

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    Ibaka used his jersey as leverage to strip LMA who basically had a point blank layup

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    Great Pic - This is what should have been addressed, not the in bounds call imo

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    Ibaka used his jersey as leverage to strip LMA who basically had a point blank layup
    LMA was mugged.

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    This is another reason why Game 2 was so important....Warriors about to go up 2-0 on Blazers.

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    Doesn't matter, Spurs would get swept by the Warriors anyways.

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    Might as well just start shutting it down for the season tbh.

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    ^ all about match ups

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    Might as well just start shutting it down for the season tbh.

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