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    Out with the old... Obstructed_View's Avatar
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    Inbounding the ball happens how many times a game? How do the refs not know that making contact with the inbounder or his defender (by the inbounder) is a foul!?
    Literally every person that saw it knew it was a foul except for the guy with a whistle standing two feet away watching it happen.

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    Literally every person that saw it knew it was a foul except for the guy with a whistle standing two feet away watching it happen.
    Marc Davis glanced down at Dion Waiters feet just before the 5 second count which was when Waiters elbowed Manu. Essentially, the 4th (reserve) official should be involved on out of bound plays b/c the sideline official is mul asking.

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    Should have been reviewed as a flagrant against Waiters. Elbow to chest. It wasn't a push, it was an elbow to the sternum of Ginobili. Even if a flagrant had been judged as too harsh, a technical foul on Waiters would have given the Spurs one shot.

    I guess the problem was that the refs called nothing whatsoever and therefore there was nothing to review.

    On another note, Ginobili's sideline infraction needed a microscopic eye as it was a matter of millimeters. Waiters' foul was forceful, blunt, and obvious. The only thing El Contusion could have done better would have been to take more umbrage to being bowed in the chest while not laying a finger on the other guy. In the heat of the moment that is a lot to think about.

    If Ginobili had gotten in Waiters' face somehow, play would have stopped. Then the elbow would have been reviewed and seen to have been the instigating element.

    All in all, the main problem was energy. Thunder had a ton of it, Spurs didn't.

    Might be time for a little more Bad Pop to complement the Good Pop. The measured, calm approach almost got us a win after a horrible start.

    I think it is a balancing act. Yes, the Spurs are all about execution. But it's also HOW you execute which matters. The Spurs looked like a bunch of Xs and Os in Game 2. The Thunder looked like living, breathing human beings.

    There's gotta be more urgency having now lost home court advantage with this defeat. There are no Western Finals. Game 3 needs to be a smack in the mouth. Hopefully the weak-minded Thunder will get overconfident from this squeaker victory. If so, Spurs regain upper hand on Friday.

    Time for some nasty. For real this time.

    --Paul

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    Not much into conspiracies, just thinking the refs were given orders to let players decide the games. I think the fixing of games is a thing of the past now.
    I believe just the opposite, I think the fix is in during the first 4 games to give TV more opportunities for more games.

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    Marc Davis glanced down at Dion Waiters feet just before the 5 second count which was when Waiters elbowed Manu. Essentially, the 4th (reserve) official should be involved on out of bound plays b/c the sideline official is mul asking.
    Um, if you believe that, then you need to join the campaign to have Davis declared legally blind. He wasn't watching the play through a rifle scope. If you're standing that close to a human who pushes another human, your field of view covers it.

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    In the end we get the ball with 13.2 secs remaining and everyone (except for Manu and LMA), from Pop to Danny did nothing to win the game.

    IMO this was 1000% Verde's fault with his rabbity scared ass pass to Paddy.

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    At no point in a game is throwing an elbow in someone's chest allowed. Even final possession plays that refs let contact go, purposely throwing an elbow in someone's chest is still gonna get called. It might only get missed by a ref in a bad position to see it. There was no bad position excuse here.

    To say I've never seen it so I didn't know what to do is stupid. You know an elbow to someone's chest is a foul. Blow the whistle and huddle with the refs and say, "ok guys I'm not sure what the call is but I know he threw his elbow into Manus chest which is an offensive foul, how do we call this one?"

    But it's over now so on to game 3.

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    Should have been reviewed as a flagrant against Waiters. Elbow to chest. It wasn't a push, it was an elbow to the sternum of Ginobili. Even if a flagrant had been judged as too harsh, a technical foul on Waiters would have given the Spurs one shot.

    I guess the problem was that the refs called nothing whatsoever and therefore there was nothing to review.

    On another note, Ginobili's sideline infraction needed a microscopic eye as it was a matter of millimeters. Waiters' foul was forceful, blunt, and obvious. The only thing El Contusion could have done better would have been to take more umbrage to being bowed in the chest while not laying a finger on the other guy. In the heat of the moment that is a lot to think about.

    If Ginobili had gotten in Waiters' face somehow, play would have stopped. Then the elbow would have been reviewed and seen to have been the instigating element.

    All in all, the main problem was energy. Thunder had a ton of it, Spurs didn't.

    Might be time for a little more Bad Pop to complement the Good Pop. The measured, calm approach almost got us a win after a horrible start.

    I think it is a balancing act. Yes, the Spurs are all about execution. But it's also HOW you execute which matters. The Spurs looked like a bunch of Xs and Os in Game 2. The Thunder looked like living, breathing human beings.

    There's gotta be more urgency having now lost home court advantage with this defeat. There are no Western Finals. Game 3 needs to be a smack in the mouth. Hopefully the weak-minded Thunder will get overconfident from this squeaker victory. If so, Spurs regain upper hand on Friday.

    Time for some nasty. For real this time.

    --Paul
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    question is : are the Spurs capable of being NASTY???

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    no, the spurs cannot be nasty. This is why they hired West. Who, unfortunately with age, settles for jumpers and doesn't mix it up, but once in a blue moon.

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    Spurs were in the bonus...do they get free throws if offensive foul is called?

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    Spurs were in the bonus...do they get free throws if offensive foul is called?
    No.

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    question is : are the Spurs capable of being NASTY???
    David West certainly is. The full-speed, all-out guys (Ginobili and Mills) have the right idea. They're fearless. I think Jonathon Simmons would be a good "energy guy" to have suited up.

    Maybe it's not just a matter of nasty, but crazy. Gino usually takes care of that by himself.

    Spurs need a designated energy guy--someone who's got nothing to lose. Simmons is the perfect candidate.

    The starters have a tendency to sometimes move like Xs and Os out there. Someone's gotta be ready to remind them of the love of the game. There's gotta be a wildcard that reminds the conservative, execution-based rotation players about the necessity of maximum effort.

    Manu and Patty do that regularly. I think their energy is expected by the starters. Simmons would be an element of surprise.

    He's gonna botch a play here and there, but if he's holding nothing back, then he's the best catalyst to wake up the team in case of a lethargic start.

    --Paul

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    In the end we get the ball with 13.2 secs remaining and everyone (except for Manu and LMA), from Pop to Danny did nothing to win the game.

    IMO this was 1000% Verde's fault with his rabbity scared ass pass to Paddy.
    So the guy who made the incredible steal is the one you blame? Instead of blaming the hall of famer who shied away from an easy point-blank shot over scrub Adams. I guess that's one way to look at it.

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    Guess they didnt do the training tbh, Durrant picking and choosing what calls to comment about
    The refs in our series helped form the current Warriors team tbqh

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