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    US Officials Report No Evidence Hillary Clinton Broke The Law, Will Right-Wing Media Listen?

    Prosecutors and FBI agents investigating Hillary Clinton’s use of a personal email server have so far found scant evidence that the leading Democratic presidential candidate intended to break classification rules, though they are still probing the case aggressively with an eye on interviewing Clinton herself, according to U.S. officials familiar with the matter
    [...]
    The involvement of the U.S. Attorney’s Office is not indicative that charges are imminent or even likely. One official said prosecutors are wrestling with the question of whether Clinton intended to violate the rules, and so far, the evidence seemed to indicate she did not.

    “The investigation is still ongoing, but so far investigators haven't found evidence to prove that Clinton willfully violated the law.” The reports join the growing chorus of legal experts and government officials who have undermined claims made by right-wing media figures,

    http://mediamatters.org/blog/2016/05...rica+-+Blog%29

    Benghazi? ZILCH

    emails? ZERO






    This is how the FBI destroys Hillary: The 10 questions that could end her White House dreams


    These questions, if answered honestly, would most likely hand the Democratic nomination to Bernie Sanders

    The FBI’s upcoming interview of Hillary Clinton will be a turning point in the race for Democratic nominee, especially since Clinton won’t be able to speak to James Comey and his FBI agents in the same manner her campaign has communicated with the public.

    Unlike loyal Hillary supporters who view the marathon Benghazi hearings to be a badge of courage and countless prior scandals to be examples of exoneration, the FBI didn’t spend one year (investigating this email controversy) to give Clinton or her top aides parking tickets.

    They mean business, and lying to an FBI agent is a felony, so Hillary Clinton and her aides will be forced to tell the truth.

    The doublespeak involving convenience and retroactive classification won’t matter to seasoned FBI agents whose reputations are on the line; the entire country feels there’s a double-standard regarding this email controversy.


    Imagine if you had 22 Top Secret emails on your computer?

    Would you be able to claim negligence?

    Also, the issue of negligence is a canard. Clinton and her top aides were smart enough to understand protocol. For every legal scholar saying that indictment isn’t likely (because it’s difficult to prove Clinton “knowingly” sent or received classified intelligence), there’s a former attorney general and former intelligence officials saying that indictment is justified.

    Ultimately, every question asked of Hillary Clinton by James Comey will benefit the Sanders campaign. In a battle for the soul of the Democratic Party, one candidate is being investigated by the FBI and has negative favorability ratings in ten national polls. The other candidate, Bernie Sanders, just raised more money in February than Clinton, without the help of Wall Street or oil and gas lobbyists. If Clinton gets indicted, the Democratic establishment and superdelegates will have no choice but to rally around Bernie Sanders.

    I explain three possible scenarios in my latest YouTube segment regarding how the Clinton campaign would react to the reality of indictment. No doubt, certain supporters would still vote for Clinton, even with the possibility of criminal behavior.

    In reality, Bernie Sanders is the true front-runner, since he’s free of perpetual scandal and performs better against Trump in general election. Vermont’s Senator also isn’t linked to an FBI investigation, which used to mean automatic front-runner status in American politics.

    Therefore, below are ten questions the FBI should ask Clinton and her top aides. These questions, if answered honestly, will most likely hand the Democratic nomination to Bernie Sanders. Remember, the issue of convenience or negligence won’t be enough to cir vent repercussions from owning a private server as Secretary of State. FBI director James Comey and his agents aren’t Democratic superdelegates or beholden in any way to a political machine. They’ll demand answers to tough questions and below could be some of the topics discussed in Clinton’s FBI interview.

    1. What was the political utility in owning a private server and never using a State.gov email address?

    There was a political motive in cir venting U.S. government servers and networks. Clinton didn’t go to the trouble of owning a private server (something her predecessors never did) for work and private use, without thinking of the political ramifications.

    An editorial from the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel led “Clinton’s abysmal record on open government”explains the possible political motive regarding Clinton’s unconventional email practices:

    The issue immediately at hand — and under investigation by the FBI — is Clinton’s use of a private email server for State Department communications. Clinton may have violated national security laws by making top secret do ents vulnerable to hackers and available to people without proper security clearance…


    In addition, regardless of Clinton’s excuses, the only believable reason for the private server in her basement was to keep her emails out of the public eye by willfully avoiding freedom of information laws. No president, no secretary of state, no public official at any level is above the law. She chose to ignore it, and must face the consequences…

    And donations to the foundation from foreign governments have raised conflict of interest questions for Clinton as secretary of state, an office with power over foreign affairs and favors second only to the president’s.

    As stated in the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, “the only believable reason for the private server in her basement was to keep her emails out of the public eye by willfully avoiding freedom of information laws.”

    We can’t even see Hillary Clinton’s Goldman Sachs speeches, do you think Clinton wanted the public to know information about her foundation?

    2. Were all 31,830 deleted private emails about yoga?

    According to ABC News, Clinton’s staff had an amusing way of deciphering how to delete over 30,000 emails:
    A Time magazine cover story about the email scandal released last week reported: “This review did not involve opening and reading each email. Instead, Clinton’s lawyers created a list of names and keywords related to her work and searched for those. Slightly more than half the total cache — 31,830 emails — did not contain any of the search terms, according to Clinton’s staff, so they were deemed to be ‘private, personal records.’”


    There was no government oversight, therefore the FBI has every right to ask why Clinton’s staff was allowed to pick and choose (through keyword searches) private emails from others that could have contained classified intelligence.

    3. Why didn’t you know that intelligence could be retroactively classified?

    This leads to the issue of negligence; a zero-sum proposition. Either Clinton wasn’t smart enough to know protocol, or breached protocol. Both scenarios aren’t good for a future presidency. Both scenarios won’t prevent legal repercussions, given the 22 Top Secret emails.

    4. Why did you use a Blackberry that wasn’t approved by the NSA?

    An article in Madison.com led “Emails: Clinton sought secure smartphone, rebuffed by NSA” explains the issue of Clinton’s Blackberry:
    WASHINGTON (AP) — Newly released emails show a 2009 request to issue a secure government smartphone to then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton was denied by the National Security Agency.


    A month later, she began using private email accounts accessed through her BlackBerry to exchange messages with her top aides.

    “We began examining options for (Secretary Clinton) with respect to secure ‘BlackBerry-like’ communications,” wrote Donald R. Reid, the department’s assistant director for security infrastructure.

    “The current state of the art is not too user friendly, has no infrastructure at State, and is very expensive.”


    Standard smartphones are not allowed into areas designated as approved for the handling of classified information…

    Clinton used a Blackberry that wasn’t approved by the NSA. Along with the issue of political motive, and why she deleted tens of thousands of emails, the unsecured Blackberry use could easily lead to an indictment.

    5. What did you say to Bryan Pagliano?

    Mr. Pagliano recently received immunity. He’s told the FBI, most likely, about his conversations with Hillary Clinton. Any discrepancy in stories could lead to a felony charge for Hillary Clinton or Pagliano’s immunity to be revoked. Both have every incentive to tell the truth.

    6. Why were 22 Top Secret emails on a private server?

    This is a simple question with no logical answer cir venting political repercussions. If Clinton and her staff are able to evade this issue, future government officials will also be able to have Top Secret intelligence on unguarded private servers.

    7. Was any information about the Clinton Foundation mingled with State Department do ents?

    The answer to this question could lead to hundreds of other questions.

    8. Did President Obama or his staff express any reservations about your private server?

    President Obama’s White House communicated with Clinton via her private server. If anyone in the White House said anything about Clinton’s server, this could lead to new controversy.

    9. Did Bill Clinton send or receive any emails on your private network?

    The server was located in their home, so it’s a valid question.

    10. How was your private server guarded against hacking attempts?

    Foreign nations and hackers already tried to compromise Clinton’s server.

    These questions could easily give Bernie Sanders the nomination. I explain that Clinton faces possible DOJ indictment in the following appearance on CNN International. Although Bernie can win without Clinton’s indictment, the email controversy will most likely become a giant story very soon.

    With issues revolving around trustworthiness before the FBI interviews, Clinton won’t be able to prevent Bernie Sanders from winning the Democratic nomination in 2016.


    http://www.salon.com/2016/04/05/this..._house_dreams/

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    boutons.....when keeping it "Salon" goes wrong.

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    US Officials Report No Evidence Hillary Clinton Broke The Law, Will Right-Wing Media Listen?

    Prosecutors and FBI agents investigating Hillary Clinton’s use of a personal email server have so far found scant evidence that the leading Democratic presidential candidate intended to break classification rules, though they are still probing the case aggressively with an eye on interviewing Clinton herself, according to U.S. officials familiar with the matter
    [...]
    The involvement of the U.S. Attorney’s Office is not indicative that charges are imminent or even likely. One official said prosecutors are wrestling with the question of whether Clinton intended to violate the rules, and so far, the evidence seemed to indicate she did not.

    “The investigation is still ongoing, but so far investigators haven't found evidence to prove that Clinton willfully violated the law.” The reports join the growing chorus of legal experts and government officials who have undermined claims made by right-wing media figures,

    http://mediamatters.org/blog/2016/05...rica+-+Blog%29

    Benghazi? ZILCH

    emails? ZERO




    “I have been advised that the unauthorized disclosure, unauthorized retention, or negligent handling of SCI by me could cause irreparable injury to the United States or be used to advantage by a foreign nation,”---Hillary Clinton signed NDA

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    boutons fully on board with Bernie getting the nomination and having Hillary get ed until Bernie's now an afterthought for the nomination

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    Pointing out the facts is a meltdown? Like I said your stupidity is relentless.
    What facts? Distorted facts, perhaps.

    That guy whom the FBI gave immunity says he still refuses to testify even after being given immunity so he's no help.

    http://freebeacon.com/politics/clint...ongress-email/

    Her aides being interviewed is nothing more than cooperation and will not lead to her immediate arrest. And as far as that hacker, are we taking him seriously now? He's nothing more than a criminal seating behind bars trying to get attention. But hey, let's play that game.

    Where is the proof? Do ents, emails..the such that would incriminate her. Where is it?

    Surely if you hack something it is with the purpose of getting information. Is this a kind hacker that is only curious and leaves everything untouch after?

    You're kind of a gullible joke dude. When you call someone stupid, make time to look into the mirror first.

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    boutons fully on board with Bernie getting the nomination and having Hillary get ed until Bernie's now an afterthought for the nomination
    this is why, just for the political theater, i would love to see a trump/sanders ticket. i know it makes no sense and is literally impossible, but i would love to see the gymnastics people like booboo end up going through

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    What facts? Distorted facts, perhaps.
    I see you woke up still stupid today, I distorted nothing.

    The guy who set up her home brew server was granted immunity
    Fact: http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/02/politi...ce-department/

    her top aides are just starting to be interviewed
    Fact: http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/05/politi...-clinton-aide/

    an extradited hacker said he accessed her server
    Fact: http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/...server-n568206

    a judge just said Hillary may have to testify under oath
    Fact: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-us...-idUSKCN0XV2RT






    You're kind of a gullible joke dude. When you call someone stupid, make time to look into the mirror first.
    When I call someone stupid I mean it, you are literally stupid.

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    this is why, just for the political theater, i would love to see a trump/sanders ticket. i know it makes no sense and is literally impossible, but i would love to see the gymnastics people like booboo end up going through
    Would actually be a great ticket.

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    Would actually be a great ticket.
    i dont think any ticket with trump at the front is a great ticket. i'd just love it for the lulz

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    You just parroted everything I said with nothing new.

    I posted fresh links not links from months ago. That guy that got immunity said he still refuses to testify AFTER the getting it.

    So keep posting those pesky facts and then hold your breath until she gets arrested.

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    Would actually be a great ticket.
    i dont think any ticket with trump at the front is a great ticket. i'd just love it for the
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    dont see why that's worthy, just because there is a difference of opinion?

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    difference of opinion?
    That's exactly my point though.

    Guy calls me stupid because my opinion differs from his.

    99% of the time we will dissagree because I'm a progressive and he seems to be a right winger who thinks he's right 100% of the time.

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    You just parroted everything I said with nothing new.

    I posted fresh links not links from months ago. That guy that got immunity said he still refuses to testify AFTER the getting it.

    So keep posting those pesky facts and then hold your breath until she gets arrested.
    No. You said they were distorted facts. You were shown one by one each of them were simply facts. After having been given the facts you call facts the "pesky". You're a ing idiot.

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    That's exactly my point though.

    Guy calls me stupid because my opinion differs from his.

    99% of the time we will dissagree because I'm a progressive and he seems to be a right winger who thinks he's right 100% of the time.
    You are the first I've seen to use an emoji to convey exactly your point.

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    No. You said they were distorted facts. You were shown one by one each of them were simply facts. After having been given the facts you call facts the "pesky". You're a ing idiot.
    I posted the same links with the same information. How are yours any more significant?

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    If youre a hardcore Hillary supporter, youre a duped got. That simple

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    Going back to my main OP..

    Prosecutors and FBI agents investigating Hillary Clinton’s use of a personal email server have so far found scant evidence that the leading Democratic presidential candidate intended to break classification rules, though they are still probing the case aggressively with an eye on interviewing Clinton herself, according to U.S. officials familiar with the matter

    [...]

    The involvement of the U.S. Attorney’s Office is not indicative that charges are imminent or even likely. One official said prosecutors are wrestling with the question of whether Clinton intended to violate the rules, and so far, the evidence seemed to indicate she did not.
    http://mediamatters.org/blog/2016/05...-listen/210266

    Forgot to post that link.

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    Setting aside the completely separate investigation into illegal contributions received through her foundation, lets look at the holes in this attempt at spin.
    Going back to my main OP..



    http://mediamatters.org/blog/2016/05...-listen/210266

    Forgot to post that link.
    You should have continued forgetting to post that link because the author of it is either lazy or purposely misleading. I don't know how many times I have to repeat this to you, intent means nothing in her case. I've posted the actual NDA she signed, read it for yourself and stop being so misinformed.



    (18 U.S. Code & 793 subsection f) is very clear.
    The law applies to “Whoever, being entrusted with or having lawful possession or control of any do ent, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, note, or information, relating to the national defense,” which obviously includes Clinton. Classified information appeared throughout her emails recovered by investigators.
    The law is broken if that person “through gross negligence permits the same to be removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of his trust, or to be lost, stolen, abstracted, or destroyed.”
    The law could also be broken if the person “having knowledge that the same has been illegally removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of its trust, or lost, or stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, and fails to make prompt report of such loss, theft, abstraction, or destruction to his superior officer—”

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    Wall Street Donors Flocking to Clinton

    Democratic frontrunner has seen a surge in financial sector donations since business-friendly Republican candidates have dropped out of the race.

    A Wall Street Journal analysis published late Sunday found that the former secretary of state "has raised $4.2 million in total from Wall Street, $344,000 of which was contributed in March alone."

    In fact, Clinton has seen a surge in financial sector donations since business-friendly Republican candidates—namely former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush and Florida Sen. Marco Rubio—dropped out of the race.

    According to the newspaper's reporting on fundraising data provided by the Center for Responsive Politics, "the former secretary of state received 53 percent of the donations from Wall Street in March, up from 32 percent last year and 33 percent in January through February, as the nominating contests began."


    WSJ
    notes that "Trump, by contrast, hasn’t garnered more than 1 percent of Wall Street contributions in any month through March," although the New York billionaire is expected to be much more active in soliciting donations for the general election.


    The report further cites an analysis by the nonpartisan crowdfunding resource Crowdpac, which found that "more than 500 donors, including many Wall Street executives, who gave more than $200 to a Republican who later dropped out, including Messrs. Bush and Rubio, have since given to Mrs. Clinton," WSJ wrote.


    In total, Clinton has received a full third of all money that business interests have donated to presidential campaigns on both sides of the aisle.


    The numbers represent a significant shift from the conventional wisdom that the GOP is beholden to big business while Democrats are supposed to represent the concerns of the people.

    http://www.commondreams.org/news/201...ocking-clinton

    BigFinance, BigCorp paying protection money to keep Clinton off their backs, not that a Repug Congress would ever send her a bill that was anti-BigFinance, anti-BigCorp. And her DoJ wouldn't block formation of monopolies, cartels, etc, etc.



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    Got to pay to play. Hillary will take care of them.

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    Hillz quit running ads, but must be a little scared by her polling, since she's started running ads again.

    Go Bernie!

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    Got to pay to play. Hillary will take care of them.
    ALL politicians are corrupt, doing what their big donors want, groveling for $$$ non-stop, ignoring their voters post-election.

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    campaign talk only. Repugs will abort any "medicare for all"

    When the Affordable Care Act was still a bill, rather than a law, one of its most notable provisions was a policy known as the “public option.” As regular readers probably recall, the idea was to create a public, non-profit health insurer that would compete with private insurance companies for consumers’ business, along the lines of the educational model in which public and private universities compete in the same space.

    Then-Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-Conn.) eventually killed the provision, but a few months ago, the public option made a comeback – when Hillary Clinton added the idea to her campaign platform.

    Of course, one of the questions at the time was whether Clinton would stick to her support. It’s one thing to tout an idea popular with progressive voters in February, as the Democratic primaries and caucuses were just getting underway, but would Clinton follow through as she shifts her attention to the general election?

    Apparently, yes. Bloomberg Politics reported yesterday:

    At a campaign stop Monday in Northern Virginia, Hillary Clinton reiterated her support for a government-run health plan in the insurance market, possibly by letting let Americans buy into Medicare, to stem the rise of health-care costs.

    “I’m also in favor of what’s called the public option, so that people can buy into Medicare at a certain age,” the Democratic presidential front-runner said during a roundtable with local residents at the Mug’N Muffin coffee shop. “Which will take a lot of pressure off the costs.”


    http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-s...d=sm_fb_maddow

    "at a certain age", and you have to opt in? that's not universal.

    why not automatic from birth until death?

    paid with salary deductions, like medicare is now?

    Hillz is bull ting, running not far enough in front of Bernie.

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    Neocons and Neolibs: How Dead Ideas Kill

    Hillary Clinton wants the American voters to be very afraid of Donald Trump, but there is reason to fear as well what a neoconservative/neoliberal Clinton presidency would mean for the world

    Wars and More Wars

    On foreign policy, Clinton has consistently supported neoconservative wars, although she might shy from the neocon label per se, preferring its less noxious synonym “liberal interventionist.”


    But as arch-neocon Robert Kagan, who has recast himself as a “liberal interventionist,” told The New York Times in 2014, “I feel comfortable with her on foreign policy. If she pursues a policy which we think she will pursue it’s something that might have been called neocon, but clearly her supporters are not going to call it that; they are going to call it something else.”


    Summing up the feeling of thinkers like Kagan, the Times reported that Clinton “remains the vessel into which many interventionists are pouring their hopes.”


    In February 2016, distraught over the rise of Trump, Kagan, whose Project for the New American Century wrote the blueprint for George W. Bush’s Iraq War, openly threw his support to Clinton, announcing his decision in a Washington Post op-ed.


    And Kagan is not mistaken when he views Hillary Clinton as a fellow-traveler. She has often marched in lock step with the neocons as they have implemented their aggressive “regime change” schemes against governments and political movements that don’t toe Washington’s line or that deviate from Israel’s goals in the Middle East.


    She has backed coups, such as in Honduras (2009) and Ukraine (2014); invasions, such as Iraq (2003) and Libya (2011); and subversions such as Syria (from 2011 to the present) all with various degrees of disastrous results. [For more details, see Consortiumnews.com’s “Yes, Hillary Clinton Is a Neocon” and “Would a Clinton Win Mean More Wars?”]


    Seeking ‘Coercion’


    A glimpse of what a Clinton-45 presidency might do could be seen in a recent Politicocommentary by Dennis Ross, a former special adviser to Secretary of State Clinton now working at the staunchly pro-Israel Washington Ins ute for Near East Policy.


    In the article, Ross painted a surreal world in which the problems of the Middle East have been caused by President Obama’s hesitancy to engage militarily more aggressively across the region, not by the neocon-driven decision to invade Iraq in 2003 and the similar schemes to overthrow secular governments in Libya and Syria in 2011, leaving those two countries in ruin.


    Channeling the desires of right-wing Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, Ross called for the United States to yoke itself to the regional interests of Israel, Saudi Arabia and other members of the Gulf Cooperation Council (GCC) in their rivalry against Shiite-led Iran.

    To counter Obama’s hesitancy to apply military force, Ross calls for a reassertion of a muscular U.S. policy in the Middle East, much along the lines that the neocon establishment and Hillary Clinton also favor, including:

    –Threatening Iran with “blunt, explicit language on employing force, not sanctions” if Iran deviates from the Obama-negotiated agreement to constrain its nuclear program (the bomb-bomb-bomb-Iran zombie lives!);


    –“Contingency planning with GCC states and Israel … to generate specific options for countering Iran’s growing use of Shiite militias to undermine regimes in the region”;


    –A readiness to arm Sunni tribes in Iraq if Iraq’s prime minister doesn’t;


    –Establish “safe havens with no-fly zones” inside Syria if Russian President Vladimir Putin does not force Syrian President Bashar al-Assad to step down.


    Employing the classic tough talk of the neocons, Ross concludes, “Putin and Middle Eastern leaders understand the logic of coercion. It is time for us to reapply it.”

    But the significance of Ross’s prescription to “reapply” U.S. “coercion” across the region is that he is outlining what the world can expect from a Clinton-45 presidency.

    Clinton made many of the same points in her speech before the American Israel Public Affairs Committee and in debates with Bernie Sanders. If she stays on that track as president, there would be at least a partial U.S. military invasion of Syria, a very strong likelihood of war with Iran, and an escalation of tensions (and possible war) with nuclear-armed Russia.


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