you play tim until he fouls out. West keeps giving up second chances, you bring in boban.
...deserves more respect from his coach, IMO... We all know he's on his last legs, and it's tough to do anything out there for him, but I just can't believe he'd be worse than West, especially rebounding the ball.
I know he had a lot of fouls tonight, but he could've closed the game.
And really, he earned being out there and going up or down with the ship. He's been the foundation to 5 championships (6 if Pop doesn't sit him down, tbh), and it's just maddening to see him sitting in the bench late in the 4th, especially on the road, a place where he's always been stoic.
Nobody wants to see Tim struggling, but at the same time, our other options are ridiculously undersized and getting killed on the boards. Hopefully Pop changes his mind in the next few games, and we get Tim to close game, for good or bad.
you play tim until he fouls out. West keeps giving up second chances, you bring in boban.
These playoffs are not for Timmy.
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What's even more maddening is that you know Timmy is a good guy, he'll never question Pop or pull a Kobe and demand being there...
Yeah, i was screaming to get him on the game when the bigs couldnt grab a single defensive rebound. Spurs just need to figure out a way to navigate their offense with having a huge offensive liabilities.
Diaw was worse than West, he couldn't do a thing on defense & was a net negative. (1 defensive rebound in 21 minutes)
Tim is in legacy mode. He's not part of the solution and this isn't the time for nostalgic gestures by the coach. I don't think Tim would appreciate it and Pop isn't that shallow.
There is no way Pop should be playing Diaw/West against Adams/Kanter even if the Spurs have to play 4-on-5 on offense.
shut upgive me my Timmy
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Pop didn't bench Manu in the 2013 Finals when he was playing for the Heat nor Tony last season when he was a dead-weight. He actually had Diaw ('13) & Patty/CoJo('15) unlike this season where Diaw/West are a disastrous tandem.
I'm with you on this one.... We cant win without Timmy. I feel he just sets the defensive tone. Rebounding, blocks, etc. Insert him when the lead is within 5 or something. Pop keeps the midget lineups out there.
I guess the rationale to Pops decision is that a less efficient offense will lead to easy transition points.
Duncan looks horrible, but ya, if the difference is negligible(which is the case, re: Duncan vs. West/Diaw), I'd rather have Tim out there..
All the bigs outside of Homedridge are unplayable in this series, though..
This is a stupid sin, a bad one, a really bad one, but what is even dumberer than that is when they're in and Kawhi isn't on the floor.
That didn't happen in the 1st half when Tim was in the lineup.![]()
As bad as Timmy has looked out there, he should be playing in the fourth. No excuses.
Don't understand the West hate.
Played very good.
Forced to play as the tallest Spur on the court, paired often with Diaw.
No Boban? That is b.s, tbh
I agree. His obsession with playing up his "get over yourself" shtick and blatant lack of respect for Duncan and Ginobili is appalling.
Sure, Duncan is struggling, but so is West and even in this state, Duncan still has a better chance to keep Adams/Kanter off the glass. He's also got an almost unparalleled history of coming up big when it's needed.
As for Ginobili, to close the third, he was about to run high pick and roll and instead timeout is called so the best play maker on the team can be removed and Mr. Tunnel Vision can come in to do it, because they need to continue to pretend he's a stereotypical perimeter superstar.
Tim getting in foul trouble triggered more minutes for Diaw, but having D west ending with 5 fouls.
Maybe Pop could have paired Diaw with TD to start the 4th, or saved TD to close it out? I definitely thought we needed some TD back in the 4th.
I don't hate West, he's just terribly undersized for this series, and a Duncan in one leg, I feel, is way more valuable out there than him.
Reminds me when Pop benched Bowen in the playoff similar to how tim is getting treated and the spurs got hosed in the first 5 games. Pop then started playing bowen a little bit more but it was too little to late.
We might be seeing the same scenario. The thunder have a great chance of winning this series now if they can win the next one.
Game 5 is going to all sorts of crazy.![]()
Manu was just in a slump. So was Tony. Neither were ready to retire. Tim is done.
So we lost the first 5 games of the playoffs and weren't done? Was this in the NBA?
My biggest issue with West are the boneheaded plays like the foul on Westbrook 92 feet from the basket on the inbounds, and the stupid front facing block out on Adams late that let Adams get the offensive board on the missed free throw. He does two or three idiotic unnecessary things every game.
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