Pop is offcially done...

[houston spurs fan]

Pop made the commitment to LMA to stay through his first contract. So as long as he has his health he's here...My guess is he'll retire after that and limit his activities to coaching Team USA and consulting...

[Brazil]

The bolded is what I'm saying, I'm calling him done because how much longer do you think he's going to coach? I think it would take another epic burn like 2013 to bring him up alive, and I don't know we'll have the roster to do it again.

So we blame Tim regression, but don't count we received the top free agent in the offseason + Kawhi going back to back DPOY and MVP candidate?

Like I said, I'm all for Pop proving me wrong on this one, but I haven't seen it. And frankly, once Tim and Manu retire, this team is going to need more than a fired up Pop to win a ring again, tbh

And where's that bump of me calling out Pop in the Mavs series? You're gonna make that accusation and get your fanboy hater all drooling, you better show the goods

I'm sorry bro your take is stupid and makes no sense... there is nothing other than your own fantasy to call Pop done... Pop has been called out about line ups and stuff for years and dude is still here... one day he will retire...wow no sherlock. You will be right at one point

BTW I made a quick search you are pretty obsessed with Pop... there are pages of your Pop threads... most of them to call him out and yet dude has 5 rings, won one in 2014 while changing the whole NBA I honestly won't dig into all that tbh... I've better things to do but surely there is a pop thread somewhere... you create pretty much one for all series...

I was not aware you had this animosity towards Pop...

I mean I know you are pissed he played Manu off the bench his whole career but no need to be mad bro...

I

[ElNono]

I'm sorry bro your take is stupid and makes no sense... there is nothing other than your own fantasy to call Pop done... Pop has been called out about line ups and stuff for years and dude is still here... one day he will retire...wow no sherlock. You will be right at one point

You can opine the take is stupid, that's perfectly fine, that doesn't make my take stupid at all.

Frankly, only time will tell, tbh. As I said, if Tim really is hurt, things would make more sense...

BTW I made a quick search you are pretty obsessed with Pop... there are pages of your Pop threads... most of them to call him out and yet dude has 5 rings, won one in 2014 while changing the whole NBA I honestly won't dig into all that tbh... I've better things to do but surely there is a pop thread somewhere... you create pretty much one for all series...

I was not aware you had this animosity towards Pop...

I mean I know you are pissed he played Manu off the bench his whole career but no need to be mad bro...

How could you be "aware" of my "animosity towards Pop" when I've been one of Pop staunchest supporters here.

This is new territory for me, but I posted this because it's what I feel is going on. I posted this after a win, BTW, didn't want this to be taken as a knee-jerk reaction.

And if you need to bump something, go ahead, tbh, I know I've some rare bad takes here or there, I own everything I post, tbh, unlike some other posters (not you, tbh) that need to bump their own threads constantly so people actually take notice they're on the board...

[DesignatedT]

People might not agree with what Pop is doing - (I would prefer more Diaw, not Duncan IMO), but the guy hasn't "mailed it in". He's doing what he believes is the best way to win, like he always does. Might be right, might be wrong. We will see. But he's trying just as hard as he ever has.

[jjktkk]

Great defense, which Tim was an integral part of. I haven't heard that Tim is hurt or anything, do you? If he is, then sure, it's excusable. Otherwise, we can't defend like we did with him on the bench when we close games.

FWIW, ESPN's Windhurst speculates that Duncan's "good knee" has been bothering him since he injured it back in January.

[Brazil]

You can opine the take is stupid, that's perfectly fine, that doesn't make my take stupid at all.

Frankly, only time will tell, tbh. As I said, if Tim really is hurt, things would make more sense...



How could you be "aware" of my "animosity towards Pop" when I've been one of Pop staunchest supporters here.

This is new territory for me, but I posted this because it's what I feel is going on. I posted this after a win, BTW, didn't want this to be taken as a knee-jerk reaction.

And if you need to bump something, go ahead, tbh, I know I've some rare bad takes here or there, I own everything I post, tbh, unlike some other posters (not you, tbh) that need to bump their own threads constantly so people actually take notice they're on the board...

tbh I was surprised when I saw the numbers of threads you started about Pop... to be fair some are for good fun and positive ones

I usually don't do that but I found a couple of quotes/threads about quite the same stuff you are saying in this thread... at one point yeah sure you will be right, he will be done and retire but again and so far there is no indication of that anywhere.

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...&highlight=Pop
"Here's to hoping they get their collective heads out of their asses and understand the urgency of the playoffs... because I don't think Pop has it in him to make them understand that anymore"

in 2013 you seemed to think he lost it already

dat was during the mavs series, I think this is the one I remembered (not as bad as I thought)
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...&highlight=Pop

oh and at your I've some rare bad takes, you sir are quite an arrogant prick

[Kawhitstorm]

So is it better now to put Danny on Westbrick?

WestBrick became timid & didn't want to challenge Kawhi which worked against the Spurs.

[Brazil]

People might not agree with what Pop is doing - (I would prefer more Diaw, not Duncan IMO), but the guy hasn't "mailed it in". He's doing what he believes is the best way to win, like he always does. Might be right, might be wrong. We will see. But he's trying just as hard as he ever has.

That's exactly my way of thinking. Questionning his professionalism is quite dumb (sorry Nono but it is true). A guy who mailed it don't go in a total reshapping of his team mode and deliver 67 wins no matter how good or not compe ion is. So far facts are: 2nd seed, a sweep an a tie serie with home court.

This does not mean dude is not wrong sometimes or that dude does not mess with line ups, time outs etc... but yes he is doing what he believes is the best for the team and it seems to me he puts same enthousiasm and effort in it as before

[SAGirl]

I've said all year that due to the amount of changes we might not be able to win this season... but we won those 67 games playing terrific defense, and that included West getting spot minutes and LMA and Tim shutting down the paint together. Nothing like what's going on right now. How many games West closed this season that were not garbage time?

All I'm saying is that after the 2013 s acking he was fired up for 2014. That fire is not there now. Do you think sticking to his guns against the Clippers last season was good coaching, tbh?

I have criticized Pop's fair amount in the past. In this one I just fell what we are seeing is Timmy last NBA games bc he's done. I hope I am wrong, but I can't blame POP for Father time finally catching Timmy up.

Others would say he's stubborn by not playing Boban, but he didn't even do that in the RS when Timmy was injured. The guy who broke out more minutes in that instance is a guy who many oldies here disdain, not Boban.

I think many things could look like Pop's blunders that are decline from his stars and his new ones not being yet at the same HoF level (I say yet bc I hope there is an NBA championship in Kawhi's future past Tim's era. He needs that for his own legacy). That's probably why I cut Pop slack in this one.

[MultiTroll]

Others would say he's stubborn by not playing Boban, but he didn't even do that in the RS when Timmy was injured.

All the more reason to have played Boban so he would be more ready in case needed in the playoffs.
And here we are.

[polandprzem]

WestBrick became timid & didn't want to challenge Kawhi which worked against the Spurs.

Cause he was unable to do it. So they quit it to a degree.
Anyway yes I thought Danny will be on Westbrook and Kawhi on Durant but overall Spurs can change from one to another adjusting game to game.

IDK how this game gonna look but we needa big game from Danny which is an Xfactor IMO as I said b4 the series. That D plus treys plus his rebounding needs to be sharp tonight.

[SAGirl]

FWIW, ESPN's Windhurst speculates that Duncan's "good knee" has been bothering him since he injured it back in January.

Spurs never said how he injured it or what he had. It was rumored to be a bone bruise but he came back too soon for it yo have been that IMO. The Spurs just Saud knee soreness, which is old age. They let him play while being attentive to how he's doing bc it's just age and will be there always. It's not something that is going to go away. He had some horrible games after coming bAck. He was shooting very inefficiently and I specifically remember Alex Len going off on him for a career night and he has to be benched against the Suns, the measly injured lottery team Suns. We are fans so ppl refused to see it but it's the last season, the farewell tour as sasaint called it.

[ElNono]

tbh I was surprised when I saw the numbers of threads you started about Pop... to be fair some are for good fun and positive ones

I usually don't do that but I found a couple of quotes/threads about quite the same stuff you are saying in this thread... at one point yeah sure you will be right, he will be done and retire but again and so far there is no indication of that anywhere.

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...&highlight=Pop
"Here's to hoping they get their collective heads out of their asses and understand the urgency of the playoffs... because I don't think Pop has it in him to make them understand that anymore"

in 2013 you seemed to think he lost it already

dat was during the mavs series, I think this is the one I remembered (not as bad as I thought)
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...&highlight=Pop

oh and at your I've some rare bad takes, you sir are quite an arrogant prick

the first one is from a regular season game against the Dubs, IIRC. That was the year he sat down Timmy for det rebound ... really reinforces what I was saying, tbh... he was a madman a year later, even your boi Tony said Pop was sharp as in '14, IIRC...

The 2nd one, as you said, not that bad. Pop is like that, he'll go down with the ship sometimes. People forget how close we were not to win it all in '14, tbh...

Like I said, rare bad takes are rare...

[Brazil]

the first one is from a regular season game against the Dubs, IIRC. That was the year he sat down Timmy for det rebound ... really reinforces what I was saying, tbh... he was a madman a year later, even your boi Tony said Pop was sharp as in '14, IIRC...

that's my point, you quitperiod on him and a year later he gave us a 5th ring

The 2nd one, as you said, not that bad. Pop is like that, he'll go down with the ship sometimes. People forget how close we were not to win it all in '14, tbh...

Like I said, rare bad takes are rare...

The fact he is stubborn does not mean indeed he's done. as you said sometimes he'll go down with the ship and his what he think he is the best for the team. His career has been like that and what I'm seeing from Pop this serie against OKC is nothing worst or better than during mavs serie. None of his calls or at udes are so much different so I don't see from what you are founding your take he's done. I've seen worst line ups and coaching than during this serie.

I'll give him crap if he lose this serie... for now I give him the benefits of the doubts and truth is he has been much more right than wrong.

[ElNono]

that's my point, you quitperiod on him and a year later he gave us a 5th ring

but that's my point too... it took a historical catastrophic up for him to sharpen up. Do you see that happening twice? I don't.

The fact he is stubborn does not mean indeed he's done. as you said sometimes he'll go down with the ship and his what he think he is the best for the team. His career has been like that and what I'm seeing from Pop this serie against OKC is nothing worst or better than during mavs serie. None of his calls or at udes are so much different so I don't see from what you are founding your take he's done. I've seen worst line ups and coaching than during this serie.

I'll give him crap if he lose this serie... for now I give him the benefits of the doubts and truth is he has been much more right than wrong.

This particular series my beef is that he actually didn't stick to the guns that brought him here (Tim and LMA). He veered away from that, and that's actually pretty weird for Pop. That's why I'm saying that if it turns out that Timmy is hurt, then ok, I get that, but haven't heard anything like that yet...

So when people bring up "67 wins" and yada, yada, that was with Tim + LMA protecting the paint pretty much all season long (Timmy missed a few games). That was the "historical defense". He hasn't stuck to it this series.

[Brazil]

but that's my point too... it took a historical catastrophic up for him to sharpen up. Do you see that happening twice? I don't.



This particular series my beef is that he actually didn't stick to the guns that brought him here (Tim and LMA). He veered away from that, and that's actually pretty weird for Pop. That's why I'm saying that if it turns out that Timmy is hurt, then ok, I get that, but haven't heard anything like that yet...

So when people bring up "67 wins" and yada, yada, that was with Tim + LMA protecting the paint pretty much all season long (Timmy missed a few games). That was the "historical defense". He hasn't stuck to it this series.

well I don't think he is letting Tim on the bench because he does not like him anymore tbh... Tim is playing way below RS so far, is it because of knees ? injury we don't know ? fatigue ? it does not matter, point is Tim is struggling. Pop just feels West is a better option at this point. If he had RS Tim I'm pretty sure he would play him

[itzsoweezee]

Even without Duncan, spurs should win this series. San Antonio is definitely more talented. The fact that they're not punishing okc on the other end for playing kanter is on pop. I hope this dude doesn't get outcoached by a scrub, again.

[Robz4000]

Pop

[TheGreatYacht]

I will not let this thread get buried when we're eliminated.

Senile piece of

[tholdren]

I will not let this thread get buried when we're eliminated.

Senile piece of

[midnightpulp]

This whole team seems "officially done."

16 first quarter points in a must win home playoff game? Just pathetic and "gutless."

[urunobili]

Unprepared team for game 5. No Prime TD no bail
Out.

[Snaq O'Meal]

I will not let this thread get buried when we're eliminated.

Senile piece of

Senile? Not really.

Pop's just too stubborn. And he's never been very good at in-game or in-series adjustments.

[tholdren]

Senile? Not really.

Pop's just too stubborn. And he's never been very good at in-game or in-series adjustments.

[therealtruth]

Is this '06 again? Pop gets outcoached by a rookie coach?