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    Tony is not going anywhere, tbh... I'm sure they'll extend him after this deal is over unless he wants to retire....
    If Tony wants to stay here beyond the next two years, he will have to SACRIFICE a lot of money and get paid like a bench player.

    His contract might be valuable in the second year, but not as much next year.

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    Looking at the UFA guard list, there isn't much

    I would take: Clarkson, Langston Galloway as a backup, Courtney Lee as a backup(only if the Spurs get another playmaker at PG), Bazemore as a backup(which won't happen, since somebody will start him), maybe E'Twaun Moore as a backup..

    The list of alternatives at PG is very, very short..

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    Like a massive upgrade....

    I know we all have an emotional connection to TP but, holy crap, am I the only who's watched him since 2014? He'll give you a nice vintage performance 1 in every 5 games or so (maybe 2 out of 5 in Oct-Dec) but he's going to get much worse as early as next season....

    Even if it's a straight salary dump, the Spurs would make out like bandits by trading him away........
    If there is a decent, younger option that can be had, the Spurs should look at it.

    Tony has been marvelous for the last 15 years, but he is near the end. He was OK this year and was much healthier this year overall, but we are at diminishing returns right now. Like I said, Kawhi and LMA need some help.

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    Disagree. Maybe on defense (but the defense was great with TP), but on offense? I honestly don't think it's worth it at all. For equal money? Sure. For more? No way.
    FWIW, i don't think he'll be traded but I don't think it will be because of anything on-court related. The offense especially if it's LMA/Kawhi-centric moving forward would run significantly better with a 3pt shooter at PG.

    TP can't even finish in the paint anymore. When teams figure that out next season, that little drop off pass to LMA will dry up.

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    If the Spurs can sign him and move Parker for anything remotely useful they might be able to get the 4-seed.
    Who would trade for Parker with the money owed to him on his current contract????

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    Looking at the UFA guard list, there isn't much

    I would take: Clarkson, Langston Galloway as a backup, Courtney Lee as a backup(only if the Spurs get another playmaker at PG), Bazemore as a backup(which won't happen, since somebody will start him), maybe E'Twaun Moore as a backup..

    The list of alternatives at PG is very, very short..
    Trade Diaw/Mills for Jeff Teague. Overall Point guard position improves, gives SA another creator -- plus lights fire under TP's ass and if it doesn't -- have a new quality starter at PG position.

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    FWIW, i don't think he'll be traded but I don't think it will be because of anything on-court related. The offense especially if it's LMA/Kawhi-centric moving forward would run significantly better with a 3pt shooter at PG.

    TP can't even finish in the paint anymore. When teams figure that out next season, that little drop off pass to LMA will dry up.
    He finished pretty well against OKC. I agree, 3PT shooting is big from the PG, but Conley isn't so good there that it's worth 20M for him. He's not that great and you can get the skills you need for much cheaper.

    I agree, TP won't be traded and it's not for basketball but loyalty reasons. Even if they were willing to trade him, what value would he bring?

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    Tony is not going anywhere, tbh... I'm sure they'll extend him after this deal is over unless he wants to retire....
    Tough year for ElNono takes, tbh. Shake it off this offseason and come back stronger than ever next season.

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    The FA Guard list is really bad. Maybe Spurs take on a risk/reward guy like Brandon Jennings? Maybe they swing for a young PG that has underwhelmed (MCW). I don't like those options, but it's slim pickings in FA.

    I really hope SA can break into the 15-19 range in the draft and get a PG. I think that is the best option with the FA class being awful for guard.

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    Yer no secret with this.

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    Who would trade for Parker with the money owed to him on his current contract????
    one team that might be willing is the 76ers? They need a vet leader. They don't have an established PG. and Tony can fill both spots for the and coach brown. They might end up with 5 first round picks but 3 for sure. They are a very young team that could use a veteran leader for 2 years to help build the Spurs of the east. And they have have money to spend.

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    Who would trade for Parker with the money owed to him on his current contract????
    Got me, but they got someone to take Splitter and someone to take Jefferson.

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    He finished pretty well against OKC. I agree, 3PT shooting is big from the PG, but Conley isn't so good there that it's worth 20M for him. He's not that great and you can get the skills you need for much cheaper.

    I agree, TP won't be traded and it's not for basketball but loyalty reasons. Even if they were willing to trade him, what value would he bring?
    Well we're just going to have to disagree. Probably a moot point considering it won't happen, but the Spurs would benefit greatly from a straight TP salary dump if we're talking on-court only IMO.

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    Tony is not going anywhere, tbh... I'm sure they'll extend him after this deal is over unless he wants to retire....
    Dear god I hope you're wrong about this one. I know that Parker seems delusional about himself playing until he is 40 or something, I just hope it's not in SA. Maybe in France for Asvel tbh

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    It'd cost about $56M/4 to max him out. The main reason why I want to go for him so badly is that that is ubercheap compared to what guys like Conley will get.
    Main reason I don't see that happening is that the Lakers have no reason to not match. I think they have already seen enough of DeRozan. IMO, Fournier is a more likely get considering the inep ude of Magic's front office when it comes to free agents & Hezonja being a better wing.

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    Looking at the UFA guard list, there isn't much

    I would take: Clarkson, Langston Galloway as a backup, Courtney Lee as a backup(only if the Spurs get another playmaker at PG), Bazemore as a backup(which won't happen, since somebody will start him), maybe E'Twaun Moore as a backup..
    OJ Mayo can take Diaw's spot as the resident diabetic.

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    Well we're just going to have to disagree. Probably a moot point considering it won't happen, but the Spurs would benefit greatly from a straight TP salary dump if we're talking on-court only IMO.
    I agree with that. We are talking about Conley though specifically. I don't think he's all that much better especially when factoring in what looks to be a 20M a year deal.

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    Trade Diaw/Mills for Jeff Teague. Overall Point guard position improves, gives SA another creator -- plus lights fire under TP's ass and if it doesn't -- have a new quality starter at PG position.
    Porky has to be moved b/c his contract will be an issue when Teague become a free agent. Trading Porky/Diaw for Teague/Tiago would work salary wise assuming Bud is still on the Spurs payroll.

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    Got me, but they got someone to take Splitter and someone to take Jefferson.
    If SA was sufficiently motivated, there would be takers for TP. He's still respected especially with the start to the season he had and his showing vs OKC. Then you factor in the arms race for free agents, the fact it's only a 2 year deal (low risk) and very cheap compared to what Conley will get? It's a terrible FA class for PG, he's known, relatively cheap compared to most guys and respected.

    SA is not going to trade him unless it's for a chance at a star like Durant or unless it's for a lottery pick type player they love as a replacement.

    Even then, they won't dump him to some hole like SAC

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    It's like when your wife lets everything go and the chubby waitress starts looking good.

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    Porky has to be moved b/c his contract will be an issue when Teague become a free agent. Trading Porky/Diaw for Teague/Tiago would work salary wise assuming Bud is still on the Spurs payroll.
    Not necessarily, Spurs can go into next yr with TP and Teague. Then, reassess options in summer of 17', when Teague is a UFA and when Tony has an attractive 15 mil expiring contract to possibly trade.

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    The FA Guard list is really bad. Maybe Spurs take on a risk/reward guy like Brandon Jennings? Maybe they swing for a young PG that has underwhelmed (MCW). I don't like those options, but it's slim pickings in FA.

    I really hope SA can break into the 15-19 range in the draft and get a PG. I think that is the best option with the FA class being awful for guard.
    MCW is a bad fit w/ Kyle & someone like Gary Payton II can approximate his skillsets as a 3rd string PG. I was advocating for PATFO to trade Kyle for MCW during the trade deadline but the ship has sailed on that one.

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    Brandon Jennings would be a good project for cheap.

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    Not necessarily, Spurs can go into next yr with TP and Teague. Then, reassess options in summer of 17', when Teague is a UFA and when Tony has an attractive 15 mil expiring contract to possibly trade.
    I wouldn't be opposed to that as long as Porky doesn't completely breakdown & become untradable like Nash. Considering he is going to play for France in the Olympic that isn't far fetched.

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    Brandon Jennings would be a good project for cheap.

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