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Spurs winning 67 games with offense like this goes to show how badly balanced the NBA is ATM
what happend to the ball movement in our 2014 run?
I guess LMA grinded our offense to a crawl. I'm not even upset with our loss last night, can't wait to see how the team is reconstructed for next season, hopefully being much younger and athletic. How much more cap will we gain this offseason?
Spurs winning 67 games with offense like this goes to show how badly balanced the NBA is ATM
Another goodbye bandwagon fan thread
I miss the passy games, .....become a gsw fan, easy peasy
Thatīs why Manu and Duncan will be missed.
Really disappointed with the Spurs in the playoffs. At least in the regular season, you still had some semblance of ball movement. The playoffs were pretty much dump it down to LA or let Kawhi Iso from the top of the key/draw fouls. The offense went to .
Everyone just now realizing what I've been preaching since 2015
Another goodbye bandwagon fan thread
Since Kawhi can play small-ball PF, Softridge has to man up & play center like Bosh to allow a more up tempo offense. Kawhi is unstoppable when he grab the rebound & goes coast-to-coast like Gaymond.
Sign a big body like Mozgov to deal w/ OKC's bigs & a bamma like Biyambo who can protect the rim/cover PnRs.
Do you remember when we changed our playing style from Duncan ISO to the of passing and shooting threes? Everyone are skeptical at the start because it did not work right away. But that was the start of the Beautiful game as we know. It took time for us to master it and the peak was 2014. Now that our offense is changing, I still think that it will take more time to learn how to play around it. I know PATFO have a vision on how to make it work. We just don't have the enough personnel to execute it as of the moment. Given that LMA and KL only started to play together this year, I think we did a good job competing this year.
I am still confident that we will comeback strong next season.
Exactly, people seem to forget Diaw and Mills sucked so badly this year after playing huge roles in 2014. The truth is if 2016 Diaw and Mills played on the 2014 team, there is NO WAY the Spurs would have won. That passing game only works when role players make shots. Otherwise, iso ball with your top players is the best plan.
LOL - Dumb
Though I expect a good amount of roster turnover, unfortunately, it probably is, because of the absence of a dynamic, play making guard.
I don't see how they get that piece. Quality RFA's (Clarkson and Fournier, in this case) are almost never attainable. They probably have a slim chance with Conley and they don't have the assets for Teague. Unfortunately, the most likely outcome, is probably something like a Vasquez signing or a trade for Grant or Wright.
Kawhi can learn. KD has gotten much better at it. Used to be strictly a shooter. Part of the transition to superstar player is that you don't only get your own basket you get baskets for everyone else.
WE saw ball movement with this team against OKC and the puke crew passed up the good shots, clanked the ones they did , and lost the rebounds.
Beautiful game only works with shooters and drivers. WE had too much dead weight to play it.
That and their leadership/locker room presence/Spurs culture mentoring. I do not see anybody on the current roster capable of supplying that level of leadership.
I find people's obsession with the beautiful game annoying. That to me was a once in a lifetime type of deal much like when the Lakers got on team fire in the '01 playoffs. It's like Manu basically said after the finals "We will probably never replicate this level of play again."
Recency bias
Spurs won more chips without the "Beautiful Game" than they won with it
Nothing wrong with ISOs as long as you players dont force shots & bad possessions
Thats when it becomes heroball
LMA & Kawhi actually pass the ball wway too much, so I dont see that bein a problem
When you run an ISO with zero off ball screens and zero player movement, more than likely there is going to be a forced contested shot. I've been critical of this years offense but I'm not saying we need motion offense, all I'm saying is that there is a way to have flow within an ISO heavy offense. This year, it was nonexistent. Not only does it not work but it kills team chemistry and makes other "role players" stand around on the 3 point line watching.
exactly
It wasn't that. It was the lack of any player or ball movement. KL/LM/Parker held the ball, everyone watched. Its the whole, spurs need a scorer thing... again.
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That's what I said. The isos need to go, it doesn't work when LMA/Kawhi are having off nights. The team should go back to the ball movement we saw from 2012-2015. At least that way all five guys on the floor can be involved in the offense instead of the two-man game we had this year.
it looks like it.
I think mainly cuz Aldridge is a bad passer.
obvious, but that is what is shocking about calling these players great, mvp, etc. They are so limited on playmaking, but have the tools to be great play makers.
your last point is a little off. Spurs need a slasher with the starters and with the bench, not "everywhere"
Additionally, it doesn't matter about patty's height. Either attack the rim or hit the three. He had open looks, but didnt put it in the hole.
Spurs played scared and don't like contact on either side of the ball. And for as "fundamental" as pop thinks he coaches, fundamentals were limited in the OKC series.
He and RC built a team around two jump shooters that can't get to the rim, wonder why they thought that would work?
i thought your point was ball movement, my point was we had no ball movement because players didnt move.
You can pass the out of the ball and everyone on offense can stand in the same place (think s drill) that's "ball movement." And you can have players passing the ball then cutting, screening, etc. There were so many times that KL or LMA had the ball, even Tim, where Spurs turned into the audience. How could you expect the person with the ball to pass, when everyone knew they were going to shoot and just stood around, watching?
Again - that's a coachable moment. I don't need an all star to run off a screen or set a pick, or cut to the basket. I need someone who wants to compete and has that edge to know each moment is a oneVone play: whether beating your man to a ball, or running the screen the correct way. Spurs don't have that. They go through the motions, but don't really compete. A lot of that has to do with coaching. I know gregg wants to teach these players about life, that's great, but when was the last time you saw "hunger" from the spurs team. I didnt even see it out of manu this year. It's just basketball may need to go away.
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