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1. You didn't watch him in college.
2. No, he wasn't.
OP; mother er. You type on here all damn day. Stop pretending you don't know how to spell. Your gets old.
1. You didn't watch him in college.
2. No, he wasn't.
OP probably wants to run more ISO's
He distributes just fine. You're just not seeing it show up in the box score because the two main offensive weapons are playing Isolation 80% of the time which results in less passing and assists.
Agree with the roll man. Manu and Tiago were the reasons we even got out of the 1st round in 2014. What were they doing? Attacking the Mavs' slow moving bigs with pick and rolls. That's what we needed to do against OKC, but we didn't have anyone that could do it. Boban might be able to, but we didn't play him enough in the regular season/design an offense around him so that we would actually have plays to run out of the pick and roll.
We really did miss Tiago this year (and last year tbh).
Kiwi should be the team's best slasher, but dude is kinda autistic so i can see why he wouldn't be able to.
he literally said to run more pick and rolls in half of his post
When Tim and Manu leave KL will come out of his s and TP will be a prison .
Yea, now that the Spurs have been put out of the playoffs. Op covering every area to hide his trails
You want timmy and Manu to retire?
I'd be ok either way, but KL won't be alpha until the alphas leave. It doesn't matter what Pop says. How many times do you need to be told that you're the man? I see KL struggling internally with the decision to assert himself more, but through large stretches of the game he remains silent and allows the game to happen around him. That's because Tim and Manu are still playing. Another issues is that Pop is basically the point guard, micromanaging the game through the PG who spends as much time looking at Pop as he does at his own guys. That needs to change to have a fluid transitional offense. You can't have KL turning around at half court to see what play Pop wants to run. They aren't chess pieces. I understand the occasional adjustment but micromanaging kills the game for the Spurs and you can see them lose interest when it's not working. That's why they don't feel any personal accountability; Pop made all the decisions.
Yeah, I mentioned this in a thread last week. As much as I talked about the lack of high percentage, volume three-point shooting being personnel related, it was also a byproduct of their inability to put pressure on the rim.
I see a lot of people placing a lot of blame on Duncan (as if it's his fault his one decent knee finally gave out), yet they had even less spacing with Splitter and made it work and there's still plenty of teams who start limited-non range shooting centers.
The Thunder just beat the Spurs 4 out of 5, with two and a half shooters in their rotation (one of whom is ball dominant) and relied heavily on a two center lineup.
I'm far more concerned with finding a penetrator than I am a roll man. They already have a likely in house one, in Marjanovic, who will be a rotation player next season, plus it's easier to find.
Aldridge would need some work to become more of a roll man, imho. His mind seems to be wired to go right to the jump shot spot to lock on his view to the basket and shoot. I think it's hard to get used to change that and then develop the ability to know when to do what.
I agree with the passing thing. Kawhi and LaMarcus can dominate but they need to be better passers so the game flows better.
Having a rollman and a rim attacker instantly makes you a better three point shooting team just by virture of pulling corner defenders away from their man.
I'm still skeptical with Boban because even though he does have roll gravity, how good of a passer would he be to corner shooters? When defenses realize he cant pass out of a roll or is not a natural passer of a roll, the pick and roll option becomes limited.
I think this team just needs an attacker of the bench. I've considered lin because he's actually a pretty darn good attacker and he can find the shooters. He isnt as turnover prone as he was back in his Rockets days or NY days. Plus, hes the most consistent attacker out of all the free agents this summer. Hos shooting needs improvement.
If the spurs can find these players and add another significant talent, they should be good.
I hate to say it, but kawhi also needs to stop being too passive and use that God Given Gravity he provides for his team and attack. Way too passive. If he fixes that issue, the spurs should make a decent run next year.
The reason why KL can't be the alpha is because he has bad ball handling skill. He's athletic no doubt, and in dead ball situation, he will wrestle the ball with his assets, huge hands, etc. Like the one instance against Kanter. But in a fluid offense moment, he is a bad fit if he is handling the ball. Unless you have a good PG (not necessary Parker) who is ball handling and pass him the ball in a favourable position. Other than that, KL is an above-average player, not in the mold of James and Durant. He is not there yet.
I know, I'm just saying, I don't buy that everything was Duncan's fault, when we just saw this team mostly flourish from '12-'14, with even less shooting among their starting bigs.
I'm not sold either, but I think Marjanovic has a high enough IQ and is a competent enough passer to make those reads.
Mills is likely to be retained and for obvious reasons, him and Lin can't pair together.
They have limited assets/flexibility and also need a stretch four.
That's the thing with Aldridge: He's caught between big positions. He doesn't screen/roll/defensive rebound/protect the rim well enough to play center full time. But, unless he re-expands his range, he no longer spaces the floor well enough to be a full time power forward and at nearly 31, the clock is ticking on him being mobile enough to defend it.
It's virtually impossible to find the ideal compliment to him, so they're going to need both of those things and have his minutes at either position dependent on match-up.
A roll-man that could come cheap(er) is Miles Plumlee. I think he'd be a great value pick up for the bench -- his skill-set is needed.
As for penetrators or play-makers, I'm hoping a Mills/Diaw for Teague trade can happen. I'd also like the Spurs to kick tires with Evan Turner, Gerald Henderson if Manu doesn't come back. Think those may be more realistic options opposed to Fournier (who'd I'd love but he'll be too expensive or Magic will match). Affalo is another option (if he opts out) , so is Crabbe (if POR doesn't match).
For 3rd PG options, if they don't draft a PG, I'd like it if SA went after Ish Smith or James Ennis.
Potential PF guys on the market I'd be interested in rounding out the summer for cheap would be Teletovic, and Lance Thomas. One PF, I'd love for SA to kick tires with is Terrance Jones. I love what I saw in him 2-3 years ago, he just had a really rough year being around those cancers in Houston and his value can't be lower (Spurs would be buying as low as possible). He has the skill-set that can matchup vs. OKC/Warriors. Would love if SA went after him if the price was right.
Last edited by MaNu4Tres; 05-16-2016 at 06:16 PM.
Yeah, I've mentioned Plumlee in the past. This scenario would leave them without a legit starter though, in which case they'd have to play it by committee. Aldrich and Koufos (they might be able to get him for Diaw), are other options along these lines.
I seriously doubt they could pull a Teague trade off. Henderson and Afflalo are not penetrators or creators period and Turner is similar to Anderson, who they inexplicably love.
Smith has probably done enough to secure a primary backup point guard job Ennis is a small forward/shooting guard.
I think they will go after Teletovic, but he won't come cheap and both the Suns and him have mutual interest in a return. Thomas is interesting, but not yet a volume three-point shooter. Jones is the rare RFA that's both promising and potentially attainable, but it still figures to cost a good amount and though perimeter based, he's not a true stretch four.
Of course it's not duncan's fault. He's 40 and accepted a role. I'm positive San Antonio has looked at the possibility of trading mills with diaw. Not a given he's going to be retained.
Part of the reason why I wasnt sold with Aldridge as the other star from our team is because he just makes the offense predictable. He never rolls, and his screens are mostly to get himself in a position to shoot. He gets a lot of post ups too so naturally there's less versatility. Of course, dumbass spursfans cant see the logic to that.
Turner is a different kind of "penetrator" he isnt usually looking to go all in. Crabe and henderson very rarely atrack. Ish smith though.hmm
I think Spurs will still go after Gasol and possibly get into the bidding war for Ezeli if they whiff on Durant/Horford. Think Plumlee can still be in the cards if they end up getting Gasol. (Gasol would start, Plumlee would back him up.)
I never implied Henderson, Turner, Afflalo to be penetrators -- meant Teague.
I meant Tim Frazier, not James Ennis (not sure how I got them confused).
I also think they will also test the waters with Harkless, but I have a feeling he'll reach 8-10 mil per easily after the way he played this year and with the way the NBA is evolving -- his skill-set/size and versatility is valuable.
If Spurs whiff on Horford, Gasol, Ezeli -- Spurs may just go after Batum or Marvin Williams and start one with LMA, Leonard in front court.
He doesn't need to be as good as James or Durant to be good enough to handle the ball instead of Tony handling the ball after the ball crosses mid court. KL has a wicked turnout jumper that is under-used because for some reason the "good, better, best" mantra lost its calibration so "good enough" never made it. That's why all the wide open looks were turned down in favor of 1 or 3 drives to the rim that resulted in turnovers or missed shots.
Positive, based on what? It's not a given, but I think it's likely. They see him as a part of their culture and with Duncan, Ginobili and Bonner likely gone, they're going to want to retain some people to further that.
Also, even though he hasn't been the same post shoulder injury, he's still a piece that they could use, he just needs to be paired with a guard that can compliment him.
Aldridge has his flaws, but he was as good as they could realistically do and they weren't in a position to pass up a top 15 player.
I not only think they'll pursue Gasol, I think they've got a good chance at signing him. I also think they'll probably retain Marjanovic, which would make Plumlee unlikely.
Fine, but Turner is still redundant, Henderson still checks no box and the only one Afflalo checks is range shooting, which they could fill for significantly less.
Frazier signed a non guaranteed contract with the Pelicans for next season.
I don't see it, with Ezeli, Harkless, Horford or Batum. Williams, maybe, but the Hornets supposedly love him and will probably re-sign him.
I don't like the idea of Horford or Marvin at the 4 since they get killed by bigs (esp. on the boards) but can't score in the post consistently against smaller defenders. They are both going to get overpaid & will NEVER live up to their contract. If he isn't going to get the super max, I would love Batum in an Iggy role to replace Manu but I'm not sure he would be willing to come off the bench.
Other than that, I'm hoping Pau would be willing to play for the MLE even if he wants to start.
Are we sure someone isn't going to give him a ridiculous contract: Daryl Morey?
Plumlee isba decent option because he does have Alleyop gravity and can really pass out of a roll but there isnt anyone in our team who can throw oop passes. Hes average as a rim protector too.
If you look at the Spurs history, they always have a goto guy in the championship years. In the past, the man is Tim . I think he is possibly top 3 in the league in his prime. If KL is top 3 in the league right now, we should have beaten OKC. The fact that he is passive in the 4th quarter says a lot of his lack of confidence of his own ability right now.
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