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    Are we sure someone isn't going to give him a ridiculous contract: Daryl Morey?
    I am with you I have a su ion Boban will get overpaid. I want Spurs to retain him but let's not forget Baynes, OKC was in a tough spot with having to match Kanter over what they wanted to pay him and there is always market for potentially talented centers. It's not even above the Mavs to go after him. He has flaws but I do wish we could retain him. It might just be difficult with as many deficiencies as we have. Gosh I hope for no more Diaw-West. I'd look at Milutinov honestly b4 I look at that duo again.

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    If you look at the Spurs history, they always have a goto guy in the championship years. In the past, the man is Tim . I think he is possibly top 3 in the league in his prime. If KL is top 3 in the league right now, we should have beaten OKC. The fact that he is passive in the 4th quarter says a lot of his lack of confidence of his own ability right now.
    Hes a top 5 player the problem was the thunder have 2 top 5 players also. LMA and KL played well overall where we lost the series was the thunders role players out played ours. You don't need a go to guy we won our last chip without one.

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    Plumlee isba decent option because he does have Alleyop gravity and can really pass out of a roll but there isnt anyone in our team who can throw oop passes. Hes average as a rim protector too.
    Do we not have Anderson in our team and he is in the rotation. geshhh. Your takes predicting he would never be above a 12 man in the rotation are blinding you.

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    His quietness/aloofness is actually starting to derail his ascendancy on court...Haven't seen him yell at/prod his teammates, bring them together in huddle, put an arm on struggling one etc...need to act like the team is in' his..



    There is just something off about this Kawhi-led team on the chemistry/hierarchy front..And, yeah, the shtick needs to end..He needs to go get wired by some Kobe mentality in the summer..
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BA1GYjD1yHo

    limited sample size, but he seemed a bit more open pre NBA. nothing concrete, but you can just hear a little bit more emotion in his voice. agree that he needs to be a bit more vocal, at least within his own team (the aldridge quote)

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    Do we not have Anderson in our team and he is in the rotation. geshhh. Your takes predicting he would never be above a 12 man in the rotation are blinding you.
    Thinking anderson would have any significant ball handling time when Leonard and Parker/New Guard is on the rotation. Kyle and Plumlee's minutes will most likey be with Kawhi.

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BA1GYjD1yHo

    limited sample size, but he seemed a bit more open pre NBA. nothing concrete, but you can just hear a little bit more emotion in his voice. agree that he needs to be a bit more vocal, at least within his own team (the aldridge quote)
    Pop is holding him back w/ his "get over yourself" BS.

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    Thinking anderson would have any significant ball handling time when Leonard and Parker/New Guard is on the rotation. Kyle and Plumlee's minutes will most likey be with Kawhi.
    Actually I like Kyle and Kawhi together. For one Kyle is a passer, won't consume possessions for himself unless he's wide open, and his moves are usually to set up a big (a plumlee type) ... He even set up Boban and had good chemistry with LMa and TD. In due time I do think Kyle will handle the ball within the offense bc he has already.

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    Actually I like Kyle and Kawhi together. For one Kyle is a passer, won't consume possessions for himself unless he's wide open, and his moves are usually to set up a big (a plumlee type) ... He even set up Boban and had good chemistry with LMa and TD. In due time I do think Kyle will handle the ball within the offense bc he has already.
    Kawhi is not going to play the SG position. The only way they play together is if they are imploring a small ball lineup and if they do that it will likely be for very limited minutes

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    Pop is holding him back w/ his "get over yourself" BS.
    He's actually allowed to be himself.

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    Pop is holding him back w/ his "get over yourself" BS.
    Old man doesnt practice what he preaxhes

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    Kawhi is not going to play the SG position. The only way they play together is if they are imploring a small ball lineup and if they do that it will likely be for very limited minutes
    They played together in the season with Kyle as the SG, sometimes the PF. Kawhi always stayed a 3 in their sets. FYI their tempo was quite fast, free flowing with the occasional post up. Much smoother and free flowing than the Tony offense.

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    He's actually allowed to be himself.

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    They played together in the season with Kyle as the SG, sometimes the PF. Kawhi always stayed a 3 in their sets. FYI their tempo was quite fast, free flowing with the occasional post up. Much smoother and free flowing than the Tony offense.
    Now you're just being silly. The RS is pops basement. You saw what happened in the pkayoffs. They might play together but it wont be in a team where plumlee is playing

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    Kawhi needs to work on his pick and roll game on the off-season, and getting to the basket with his dribble. Unfortunately, his natural strenghts (postups, isos, midrange) don't lead to efficient offense on todays NBA.

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    Now you're just being silly. The RS is pops basement. You saw what happened in the pkayoffs. They might play together but it wont be in a team where plumlee is playing
    Lol it remains to be seen this is all hypothetical. Plumlee is not in this team. I expect Kyle to be better next season regardless. Team composition next season will dictate what Pop does. Kyle is a good passer though and without TD and Manu (if they retire, unknown right now) the team will need him. He can play a variety of positions but he also needs to work on his own game and stay hungry.

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    Hes a top 5 player the problem was the thunder have 2 top 5 players also. LMA and KL played well overall where we lost the series was the thunders role players out played ours. You don't need a go to guy we won our last chip without one.
    Very hard to repeat the last championship as it is. The last championship, both Manu and Tim were still playing brilliant. Esp against OKC, where Tim made repeated baskets against Ibaka. And furthermore, Bobo is much better then and we have a healthy Splitter. With both Manu and Tim aging and probably gone, and no more Tiago, we do need a go-to guy in clutch situations if we were to build a dynasty. KL is not there yet. If he is as good he will be totally getting the balls in clutch situations, and making the right decisions with successful outcome.

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    We just needed to trade for Rudy Gay or some other player to give us option to play small and have more fire power, Pop not making a trade and keeping Manu in that big role like he still can play was so pathetic and senile and cost us the le...

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    Lol it remains to be seen this is all hypothetical. Plumlee is not in this team. I expect Kyle to be better next season regardless. Team composition next season will dictate what Pop does. Kyle is a good passer though and without TD and Manu (if they retire, unknown right now) the team will need him. He can play a variety of positions but he also needs to work on his own game and stay hungry.
    All I heard was a wet fart when I tried to read this

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    Kawhi needs to work on his pick and roll game on the off-season, and getting to the basket with his dribble. Unfortunately, his natural strenghts (postups, isos, midrange) don't lead to efficient offense on todays NBA.
    Hes efficient as scorer one of the most actually so i have no idea what you are refering to. Theres very little sample size on how hes improved as a rollman because every screen setter pops

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    Hes efficient as scorer one of the most actually so i have no idea what you are refering to. Theres very little sample size on how hes improved as a rollman because every screen setter pops
    He is efficient himself. But his style doesn't lead to efficient basketball for the team. Kawhi's style, on offense, doesn't make teammates better. Not yet, at least.

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    He is efficient himself. But his style doesn't lead to efficient basketball for the team. Kawhi's style, on offense, doesn't make teammates better. Not yet, at least.
    The spurs were one of the most efficient team in the league

    Kawhi this year wasnt a playmaker until the playoffs. Pop keeps on throwing him on fire on these situations. Just look at the insane difference between his pnp/roll usage from RS to Playoffs. Most likely the amount of ball handling he got in the playoffs will carry over to the next RS. Parker and Ginobili feelings will be hurt but ots absoutley a must. You can tell from the few interviews this yeay they werent too thrilled with Kawhi virtually taking all the offensive responsibility ( stealing the ball handling duties).

    I suspect they are over that though because Game 6 4th quarter had Kawhi handling the ball majority of the time. Its the next step back rhey have to take.

    His "style" is a product of a his position and responsibility this year. Defend and Score. I suspect thats going to change next year since his frustrations in game 6 showed and he just started handling the ball.

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    The spurs were one of the most efficient team in the league

    Kawhi this year wasnt a playmaker until the playoffs. Pop keeps on throwing him on fire on these situations. Just look at the insane difference between his pnp/roll usage from RS to Playoffs. Most likely the amount of ball handling he got in the playoffs will carry over to the next RS. Parker and Ginobili feelings will be hurt but ots absoutley a must. You can tell from the few interviews this yeay they werent too thrilled with Kawhi virtually taking all the offensive responsibility ( stealing the ball handling duties).

    I suspect they are over that though because Game 6 4th quarter had Kawhi handling the ball majority of the time. Its the next step back rhey have to take.

    His "style" is a product of a his position and responsibility this year. Defend and Score. I suspect thats going to change next year since his frustrations in game 6 showed and he just started handling the ball.
    Well, then you are expecting the same thing I expect. I don't know what the you are arguing, tbh.

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    Well, then you are expecting the same thing I expect. I don't know what the you are arguing, tbh.
    I was just just saying his iso/post up game being efficient and how the team still managed to be efficient even with "style"

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    I was just just saying his iso/post up game being efficient and how the team still managed to be efficient even with "style"
    In the regular season. When the real season started, it became pretty obvious that the two man game from LA and Kawhi wasn't going to cut it.

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    Plumlee isba decent option because he does have Alleyop gravity and can really pass out of a roll but there isnt anyone in our team who can throw oop passes. Hes average as a rim protector too.

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