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Yes it is. The spurs need to have a player they can count on to score - those 2 are good scorers, but cannot be counted on = not good for spurs.
WTF? No, he didn't. He has just "ONE move"
Yes it is. The spurs need to have a player they can count on to score - those 2 are good scorers, but cannot be counted on = not good for spurs.
Honestly what did people expect from these 2? They did their part..Pop and the bench failed the Spurs not Kawhi or LMA...
This series was really close..call here or there or made shot or free throw could've changed the series. Spurs aren't that far off IMO.
Yes, OKC's momentum is huge right now. But I think the Dubs just got the shock they needed, and they'll be a different team from here on in. They were ing around last night, especially in the 3rd, and it cost them, but they won't make that mistake again.
Don't forget that Westbrook hit ridiculous BS in the 3rd to get OKC back in the game. He won't hit 3 3s in a few minutes again this series. He's such a frustrating player to watch though - hits so many bad shots! But you can't rely on that to win this series.
It'll be fascinating, whatever happens.
This was their first season together and Kawhi's just 24. I'll count on them to score next seasons.
Also, the Spurs lost against an Iso-team with two main guys who aren't that reliable but their role players made the difference.
You mean like Curry, his bank 3s, and his typically terrible contested shots?Yes, OKC's momentum is huge right now. But I think the Dubs just got the shock they needed, and they'll be a different team from here on in. They were ing around last night, especially in the 3rd, and it cost them, but they won't make that mistake again.
Don't forget that Westbrook hit ridiculous BS in the 3rd to get OKC back in the game. He won't hit 3 3s in a few minutes again this series. He's such a frustrating player to watch though - hits so many bad shots! But you can't rely on that to win this series.
It'll be fascinating, whatever happens.
go look at the FTAs
Well, their role players and refs calls made the difference.
Very true, and it seems most people are ignoring this. We lost the series on 2 poor 2 minute stretches to end games 2 and 5, that's it. And in those stretches the Thunder got every fortuitous bounce of the ball and lucky call. Our bench was inexplicably terrible (where was the ball movement? the energy? the pace?), and we still almost won the series. We've got a great foundation to build off, even though this off-season will be tricky.
Still, I don't think LMA is what we need next to Kawhi. Hopefully next year he'll adjust his game to allow for more ball movement, become a bit tougher, and prove me wrong.
no - them out rebounding and out FTA spurs did it
Curry's shots may look awful by conventional standards, but boy do they go in a high % of the time (3590 shots at 44.4%). He's a freak of nature. Can't compare that to Westbrook's ridiculously high number of 3pt shots when he's a career 30% 3pt shooter (1675 shots at 0.302 - this season he shot 341 at .296).
Sorry, your comparison holds no water.
Yup. Adams, Kanter, Ibaka, Roberson, even Waiters all stepped up and out-played our role players.
Also, go back and watch the last 5 minutes of game 5. Kawhi was superb. He's the guy who got us up by 6, only to lose the lead on a Westbrook long jumper, that coast-to-coast by Westy when everyone stopped, and 2 offensive boards leading to layups by Adams and Kanter. Then LMA misses 2 wide open bunnies, Parker misses 2 hero ball shots (and a FT) when he should've been going to Kawhi, then Danny gets called for BS when Adams trips him into Durant's legs.
How anyone can blame all of that bull on Kawhi is beyond me.
PS Seriously, go back and watch it - yet another of those games where everything went against us at the absolutely worst time. Unfortunately the Spurs have a lot of games like this in their history: 2004 0.4s, 2006 Manu foul, 2012 games 5 and 6 against OKC, 2013 game 6 (the worst of all bad luck games) and even game 7, now games 2 and 5 2016.
PPS These ones don't hurt so much because there's no way we were beating the Dubs.
Last edited by RuffnReadyOzStyle; 05-17-2016 at 09:55 PM.
I think the Kawhi haters are trolls, player fans, maybe a few guys are peeved at Apalisoc. Personally I love the guy. I love all our players. A few get on my nerves sometimes but we wouldn't have even been here if not for Kawhi. I am not into hate shtick crews. Don't et it get to you. Personally I don't think that was LMA either. Really to me the decline of the big 3 was a factor and the rest of the guys didn't show up, but even with all of our bench problems it wasn't even like we were being blown out, our big got manhandled and LMA offensively was getting doubled off Tim, and defensively the boxing out was a bear.
The doubling off Tim meant he had to settle for jumpers, as soon as he made a move to the basket Adams showed. Tim being so off really made it difficult for LMA to get other shots at the basket. I can't hate on him. It was a team defeat if we must be Spursy.
People don't understand the it is a team sport not one person is going to take you to the promise land. Just look at the DUBS if not for Kanter and Adams no way are they fighting against GS to have a chance at a ring. We only got Kawhi and LMA which most teams would give your left nut for one and both nuts for both of them that is if you had nuts (Kahwi Haters). Let our old champions retire get some fresh blood and we are right back in it..
Totally! A lot of sour and bitter fans pointing the finger at each other. If anything it wasn't just one guy.People don't understand the it is a team sport not one person is going to take you to the promise land. Just look at the DUBS if not for Kanter and Adams no way are they fighting against GS to have a chance at a ring. We only got Kawhi and LMA which most teams would give your left nut for one and both nuts for both of them that is if you had nuts (Kahwi Haters). Let our old champions retire get some fresh blood and we are right back in it..
Has the straw man been beat to death yet? Some of us are more compassionate towards rhetorical arguments, but if it must be done do it cleanly.
The analysis of Kawhi has been focused on whether he has the tools to lead this team. No one is calling him a role player. Jeez.
Go back and watch the last 5 minutes of game 5. Kawhi was superb - steals, big buckets, led the team superbly before TP inexplicably took over and ed it up.
Kawhi's the guy who got us up by 6, only to lose the lead on a Westbrook long jumper, that coast-to-coast by Westy when everyone stopped, and 2 offensive boards leading to layups by Adams and Kanter. Then LMA misses 2 wide open bunnies, Parker misses 2 hero ball shots (and a FT) when he should've been going to Kawhi, then Danny gets called for BS when Adams trips him into Durant's legs. Kawhi was no doubt shrugging his shoulders and thinking "WHY THE AREN'T THEY GETTING THE BALL TO ME???"
How anyone can blame all of that bull on Kawhi is beyond me.
And if we win game 5 there's a good chance we're playing the Dubs right now.
No one, except you.
LMA has been here for less than a whole year, while Kawhi has been here for a longer tenure, and has failed against easier match ups over an over again. He is becoming Mr. Unreliable on his own way.
You are Unreliable if you are a top 10 player in the game and fail to impose your will against A) Matt Barnes, B) Robertson. Also was a no show against OKC in 2012, but i give him a pass there.
As of now, in our first series without any of the big 3 being big contributors, the only player that showed that can draw double teams is Aldridge. And he had a much tougher matchup.
Fail? Kawhi scored 23 ppg on better shooting % than Westbrook in less minutes and shots.
Do you want that Kawhi scores +25 ppg in playoffs? Give him more minutes/touches and we'll see.
Last edited by YGWHI; 05-17-2016 at 11:21 PM.
Did you even watch the series? Your comments say no.
Kawhi was absolutely not the reason we lost. As I say, go back and watch the end of game 5 and tell me any of that is Kawhi's fault.
Exactly! 23/7/3/2 at 48% is failure?!?
2 steals in the last 4 minutes of game 5 is failure???
How about 4 missed jumpshots from LMA and TP in last 4 mins of game 5 while Kawhi needed the ball. That's failure.
it's pretty clear that half the posters here turned off game 5 with 6 to go. Kawhi was huge in that 4th quarter when everyone else, particularly LMA and TP, choked the game away. Kawhi kept us in that damned game.
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