Spurs should absolutely trade for MCW

[lefty]

Abso inglutely NOT. MCW is the definition of what it means to be overrated.

So he is a cheaper Parker

[james evans]

Spurs need spacers and you've traded one of our best shooters for the top five worst shooter in the league.

What we really need is Aldridge shooting the open 3. I'm not saying he should shoot 4 or 5 a game, but if he's open, let it fly. He can hit it. Him passing up open thread to back down a defender for an 18 foot fadeaway hurts us because then in the future, they know he's not gonna shoot it and just pack the lane. I hate that Popovich took that part of his game from him. This is 2016. Almost every team has a stretch 4 and some with stretch 5s.Popovich is still running those same offensive sets he did with Tim and David. aint working...

[Hoops Czar]

So he is a cheaper Parker

Only if you're into a career 41% FG, 25% 3PTFG and 69% FT shooter.

[lefty]

Only if you're into a career 41% FG, 25% 3PTFG and 69% FT shooter.

He can improve

[james evans]

Only if you're into a career 41% FG, 25% 3PTFG and 69% FT shooter.

what would parker's numbers had been if he came in the league and played on the 76ers and bucks teams the past few years?

[palangi]

I don't see us getting out of the 2nd round next season anyway. In this year's crop of FA PGs, I really don't see anybody that moves the needle for us. I don't like spending the big money that re-treads like Conley and Teague will likely command, and I don't see any younger guys that I would be excited for the Spurs to bring aboard. A trade seems to be the only way we can get a young veteran PG that will have any real impact at all. I know you like MCW, but I'm hoping we can get somebody with a little better shot.

Perhaps the Durant rumors were only a smoke screen, and the Spurs are really focused on going after Westbrick next off-season.

I agree with this. But if MCW is the one brought in I don't think it is as dire as some make it out to be.

[palangi]

what would parker's numbers had been if he came in the league and played on the 76ers and bucks teams the past few years?

His shot was so bad when he came into the league. It was worse that MCW. So I would say he would be similar. While MCW gets by with his size and length. Tony would have gotten by with his speed and quickness. But his outside shot would not be what it is today as it is now (imo).

[Kawhitstorm]

In this year's crop of FA PGs, I really don't see anybody that moves the needle for us. I don't like spending the big money that re-treads like Conley and Teague will likely command, and I don't see any younger guys that I would be excited for the Spurs to bring aboard. A trade seems to be the only way we can get a young veteran PG that will have any real impact at all. I know you like MCW, but I'm hoping we can get somebody with a little better shot.

If they can dump Tony's contract & replace him w/ Conley for say like 20 mill that would essentially be upgrading the point guard position for 6 mill. I only advocated for swapping Kyle w/ MCW, so he can be a utility player: 3rd string PG/wing defender.

If Porker isn't going to get traded then it would make more sense to go after Horford & trade for MCW who can shore up the PG depth. This would require dumping Diaw's contract to free up cap space but Patty can stay as long as Horford doesn't demanded the FULL max.

If they want to go after Teague & keep Tony then there wouldn't be enough cap space to get a quality FA, maybe Marvin Williams for 12 mill (Diaw's replacement).

In all this cases, they would have the MLE to offer Pau or Mozgov & it would require AT LEAST dumping Diaw's contract to sign the other FAs.

I would assume PATFO would go the Horford route since the Hawks won't give him the SUPER MAX & Pop won't trade Tony with the fall back being Marvin Williams/Pau.

[TheGoldStandard]

You can't teach length and height. MCW with a relatively cheap contract is worth a look at, at the very least you have a big body PG who can handle the ball, has a decent amount of APG who can stay in front of pesky guards and can rebound. This would be great off the bench, he could push Parker and get starting minutes and develop. If he's engaged and motivated by winning he might surprise a few and develop a shot but we are not going to find a PG with all the skills already established on the cheap.

Conley sounds good on paper till he gets hurt and then you have a high priced paperweight on the bench and we will already have that when Parker naturally goes into his "injury mode" shooting slump next season.

[Strategic]

Mills contract year is approaching, so the Spurs can stand pat and believe his shooting touch will mysteriously reappear? Lol at people thinking Spurs shouldn't explore every possibility out there. Westbrook is one of the worst shooters but somehow just finished handing this team their asses. Parker's decline probably needs to be addressed more immediately than post play. Just not sure the team has two number one draft picks laying around.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Of note, Chip hasn't made three point shooters out of Diaw or Parker. No guarantee he can fix MCW.

Really? Parker was a hopeless 3pt shooter, now he's a very good one. Doesn't take many but hits a high %.

I do not see Rondo's returning to Sactown, but if he were to, Collison might be obtained. OTOH, if Rondo leaves, Collison projects as the Kings' starter. If he couldn't be their starter, how could he be ours? It will be interesting to see what changes are wrought by the Kings' new coaching staff.

I think you're right, which takes Collison off the market.

Collison is a terrible defender, dude is K-Mart status.

Maybe not that bad. But not in any way good.

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Great example of a player who was useless before he got to a strong development environment at Boston. Now he's very useful.

Spurs need spacers and you've traded one of our best shooters for the top five worst shooter in the league.

Chip is the key here, and Mills has done very little for us since the 2014 ring. He went completely missing against OKC's length and athleticism, which is what we need to be thinking about.

I don't see us getting out of the 2nd round next season anyway. In this year's crop of FA PGs, I really don't see anybody that moves the needle for us. I don't like spending the big money that re-treads like Conley and Teague will likely command, and I don't see any younger guys that I would be excited for the Spurs to bring aboard. A trade seems to be the only way we can get a young veteran PG that will have any real impact at all. I know you like MCW, but I'm hoping we can get somebody with a little better shot.

Perhaps the Durant rumors were only a smoke screen, and the Spurs are really focused on going after Westbrick next off-season.

Please suggest someone and how we obtain their services.

I was thinking about this the other day. Big pg, that passes good, rebounds well, and has given GS fits this season. I would love to have him.

That's the idea - long, athletic, still young enough to develop in the right environment. I'm thinking Sean Livingston, and if he even becomes an average 3pt shooter under Chip's tutelage he'd be very useful.

Only if you're into a career 41% FG, 25% 3PTFG and 69% FT shooter.

What don't you understand about the words "project" and "low risk high reward"?

You can't teach length and height. MCW with a relatively cheap contract is worth a look at, at the very least you have a big body PG who can handle the ball, has a decent amount of APG who can stay in front of pesky guards and can rebound. This would be great off the bench, he could push Parker and get starting minutes and develop. If he's engaged and motivated by winning he might surprise a few and develop a shot but we are not going to find a PG with all the skills already established on the cheap.

Conley sounds good on paper till he gets hurt and then you have a high priced paperweight on the bench and we will already have that when Parker naturally goes into his "injury mode" shooting slump next season.

My thinking exactly.

Love to hear more suggestions for other relatively cheap PGs we can acquire who might help mitigate our weaknesses at the position - namely length, athleticism and defence.

[sasaint]

Really? Parker was a hopeless 3pt shooter, now he's a very good one. Doesn't take many but hits a high %.



I think you're right, which takes Collison off the market.



Maybe not that bad. But not in any way good.



Great example of a player who was useless before he got to a strong development environment at Boston. Now he's very useful.



Chip is the key here, and Mills has done very little for us since the 2014 ring. He went completely missing against OKC's length and athleticism, which is what we need to be thinking about.



Please suggest someone and how we obtain their services.



That's the idea - long, athletic, still young enough to develop in the right environment. I'm thinking Sean Livingston, and if he even becomes an average 3pt shooter under Chip's tutelage he'd be very useful.



What don't you understand about the words "project" and "low risk high reward"?



My thinking exactly.

Love to hear more suggestions for other relatively cheap PGs we can acquire who might help mitigate our weaknesses at the position - namely length, athleticism and defence.

I'd look at either of the Lakers' young guards, Clarkson or Russell, or the Pelicans' Jrue Holiday.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

I'd look at either of the Lakers' young guards, Clarkson or Russell, or the Pelicans' Jrue Holiday.

Yes, except unrealistic. Fakers aren't letting Clarkson or Russell walk, and Pels have waited years for Jrue to be healthy. Now that he is I doubt they're moving him.

Of that lot I'd love Jrue for the Spurs, but I don;t see it happening.

[sasaint]

Yes, except unrealistic. Fakers aren't letting Clarkson or Russell walk, and Pels have waited years for Jrue to be healthy. Now that he is I doubt they're moving him.

Of that lot I'd love Jrue for the Spurs, but I don;t see it happening.

I don't expect the Lakers to let either of them just walk.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Trading for MCW still looks like a great move to me. It probably wouldn't pay off next season, but a year of development under our staff might just work wonders and give us a Sean Livingston kind of player. Do it, FO!