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    at first i thought we could definitely trade that contract... but i then i remembered the spurs wouldn't trade just him anywhere.

    so that limits the list of potential trade partners a lot...

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    at first i thought we could definitely trade that contract... but i then i remembered the spurs wouldn't trade just him anywhere.

    so that limits the list of potential trade partners a lot...
    And that is what make philly an option. Brett Brown. The old spurs assistant. One of Pops guys. Running pops system.

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    If Parker isn't gone or doesn't come off the bench the spurs are in for another playoff exit the next few years. There are teams that would like Parker, Diaw and Mills for veteran experience. Spurs should consider trading Parker. None of this sentimental B.S. Spurs are in the business of winning and that takes precedence over everything. You can't waste two more years of Kawhi and LaMarcus just to give Parker the Kobe treatment. Plus Duncan said it after game 6, he doesn't care about what happens to the Spurs after he leaves. He said "you assume I care what happens when I'm gone?" There you have it. Once Duncan and Manu retire, spurs can trade Parker, Diaw and Mills.

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    I can't believe the hate...

    If you can find a player producing 12pts (50%) and 5ast for that price...
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    I dont think Parker will be traded, but I would look for Phily to be partner in hipothetical trade. They need PG, they need salaries to meet bottom requirement, they need experience, they need more than 15 wins. They have 24th and 26th picks this year. They have guys with no future in their roster like Stauskas. Maybe Parker and Diaw as duo for whatever RC can get. Spurs would need salary space rather than actual assets. Pick + Stauskas/Grant for Parker and maybe Diaw. This could work. they had Gerald Wallace and JaVale McGee on roster for that minimum salary requirement
    With the real possibility of Manu returning and TD (even if he's KG status) we probably run this thing right back. I don't see Tony traded but it is time to move on from Diaw.

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    If Parker isn't gone or doesn't come off the bench the spurs are in for another playoff exit the next few years. There are teams that would like Parker, Diaw and Mills for veteran experience. Spurs should consider trading Parker. None of this sentimental B.S. Spurs are in the business of winning and that takes precedence over everything. You can't waste two more years of Kawhi and LaMarcus just to give Parker the Kobe treatment. Plus Duncan said it after game 6, he doesn't care about what happens to the Spurs after he leaves. He said "you assume I care what happens when I'm gone?" There you have it. Once Duncan and Manu retire, spurs can trade Parker, Diaw and Mills.
    You are talking about Tony getting the Kobe treatment. Are you ready to witness the Tim, Manu, and Tony Kobe treatment? Gosh I hope they really do know when it's time. Not that we can replace them but that is a sad and sorry parade that does disservice to their careers, same as Kobe clowned himself, teammates and the franchise at the end. Really I hope they know when it's time bc Pop may not know when it's time, same as the Lakers. No one pressured Kobe, he was paid, came back and he said in his own terms when it was time. Difficult business in the personal aspects TBH, specially when a player has brought championship and success to the franchise.

    Frankly I don't think our guys are on that level, but they are now declining at a faster rate and Pop is not one to tell them when they are done.

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    I will say that the Jazz fans on RealGM would definitely take Parker for free. So all this talk about the Spurs being stuck with Parker against their will is bogus. His contract (which seems to grow every day hearing how some people describe it) is not that bad. The Spurs aren't going to and shouldn't trade him if they aren't getting someone worth the money back.
    Parker for Exum and change.

    Not happening, but I'd do it. When he finds his feet, Exum will be excellent.

    TP would actually be a great mentor for Exum. They're very similar (though Exum is way taller).

    Exum is not much of a facilitator or a shooter but loves to attack the rim, his quickness is off the charts and he has a speedy 1st step. His main problem so far other than his injury is the fact that he is too timid, plays too passive. TP would definitely help in that regard.

    Another team that I saw a lot of fans willing to take TP is the Knicks, especially if SA is willing to take Calderon back. I'd ask O'Quinn too and probably Grant as well.
    I like Quinn and Grant as projects. Don't see Pop/RC doing this though, especially given Calderon's matador D.

    Supposedly they want Jrue to be part of their core & he has good chemistry w/ AD but they were trying to dump Reke. Demps is another guy that has ties to the Spurs organization but I'm not sure Tony/Diaw fit the uptempo offense Gentry wants to run. Their owner wants to make the playoffs ASAP even w/ a mediocre roster & I'm not sure Tony can be your starting point guard for that job.

    They will probably draft someone like Buddy & keep Jrue while shopping Tyreke expiring contract for a legit wing player like Rudy Gay. If they were going to move Jrue, they would probably tack on Asik's ty contract.
    Yeah, they really like Jrue, and he and AD have great chemistry. I'd love Jrue as a Spur but don't see it happening.

    As for Reke, if he could commit to playinghis role as PG, not over-reaching, and committing to D, maybe... lots of ifs though, and he's injury-prone.

    Some of these trade ideas are so ridiculous. No one is giving up a young player with any sort of flash of upside or talent for TP. No one. You might get a pick. You might get a player. You are certainly not getting anyone that is younger and clearly better than TP.
    Sadly yup.

    Orlando do have 2 starter quality PGs... I wonder if there's some way we could land Elfrid Payton? Can't shoot, but Chip is here, and Payton is basically a better version of MCW. Pop might be able to hammer him into a really good player like he did with TP.

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    Tony Parker. Barbacoa some big Red for anyone not named Tony Parker.

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    You don't honestly believe that the best that the Sixers could get for Noel and Saric is Parker and Diaw do you? The Spurs are not their only potential trading partner.
    No, realistically not both. But I think a Parker/Diaw for Noel trade is not out of the question. I actually wouldn't do it from the Spurs end, but I'm playing the hypothetical game here.

    The 76ers need to get rid of the logjam at the 4/5 spot, and I just don't know who else they could get for Nerlens that would fit in at SG or PG. In the scenario I put forward, they'd be needing a PG (obviously they could go the other route, trade Okafor to draft a PG, and then go looking for a SG). But if they did follow a scenario like the one I laid out, who else could they get? Noel isn't worth a top-10 pick. Going through the lists of PGs in the league, I'm not sure who a better option would be that they could actually acquire, particularly with a young team and considering the Brett Brown connection and the love the Colangelos have for foreign players.

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    No, realistically not both. But I think a Parker/Diaw for Noel trade is not out of the question. I actually wouldn't do it from the Spurs end, but I'm playing the hypothetical game here.

    The 76ers need to get rid of the logjam at the 4/5 spot, and I just don't know who else they could get for Nerlens that would fit in at SG or PG. In the scenario I put forward, they'd be needing a PG (obviously they could go the other route, trade Okafor to draft a PG, and then go looking for a SG). But if they did follow a scenario like the one I laid out, who else could they get? Noel isn't worth a top-10 pick. Going through the lists of PGs in the league, I'm not sure who a better option would be that they could actually acquire, particularly with a young team and considering the Brett Brown connection and the love the Colangelos have for foreign players.
    I would trade Parker and Diaw for Noel in a New York minute. Doubt the Sixers would even go for that. Moreover, the salaries are way out of whack. All of the Sixers' guys are on rookie contracts that are all so low that they are an unlikely trade partner without a third team. In fact, I think a 3-team trade is the most realistic way to make the unrealistic trade of Parker work.
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    I think Noel's stock is falling with his offensive game not expanding and him being closer to the end of his rookie deal. But the Sixers wouldn't trade him for Parker. 2013-2014 Parker? Maybe. Not this one. He's almost a perfect fit with LMA though. So anything short of the top three guys would be on the table.

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    I don't think Noel has progressed very much. He has/had upside, but at the moment is a very limited player.

    He does fit well next to LMA though, and Parker would fit well with a young team under Brett Brown.

    Parker-Heild-Covington-Simmons-Embid with Saric, Diaw, Ish, and Grant off the bench could develop into a playoff team in a year or two. Add in another 76ers pick and the Laker's pick next year and you've got something. Parker would also act as an advocate of Brown's system on the floor.

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    Obviously the loyal card becomes the biggest factor in trading TP. There are teams out there who'd be at the very least open to it. TP always talks about he's for whatever is best for the team. If he was ever traded, I'm sure the spurs would make sure the deal is also beneficial for Tony.

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    maybe tp and diaw wouldn't mind going to the raptors... that french connection... both would see a rise in jersey sales... and they would bring much needed veteran leadership.

    all i want from the raptors is jonas valanciunas though... and they already have lowry...

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    and i don't think the raptors have enough cap space to take on those contracts anyways.

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    Some of these trade ideas are so ridiculous. No one is giving up a young player with any sort of flash of upside or talent for TP. No one. You might get a pick. You might get a player. You are certainly not getting anyone that is younger and clearly better than TP.
    ^^^^^^ Reality.

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    No, realistically not both. But I think a Parker/Diaw for Noel trade is not out of the question. I actually wouldn't do it from the Spurs end, but I'm playing the hypothetical game here.

    The 76ers need to get rid of the logjam at the 4/5 spot, and I just don't know who else they could get for Nerlens that would fit in at SG or PG. In the scenario I put forward, they'd be needing a PG (obviously they could go the other route, trade Okafor to draft a PG, and then go looking for a SG). But if they did follow a scenario like the one I laid out, who else could they get? Noel isn't worth a top-10 pick. Going through the lists of PGs in the league, I'm not sure who a better option would be that they could actually acquire, particularly with a young team and considering the Brett Brown connection and the love the Colangelos have for foreign players.
    There are better trade partners out there. Off the top of my head Atlanta has 2 PG and are looking to deal Teague, Boston has a huge amount of picks, young players and they can't even find playing time for all their guards.

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