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    I've gone out of my way to provide Reck with reputable sources and he just scurries away and doesn't respond.
    I've responded accordingly.

    But when you take speculative articles as facts, then I dont waste my time trying to respond.

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    I've responded accordingly.

    But when you take speculative articles as facts, then I dont waste my time trying to respond.
    Please... tell me what is speculative in this article and not fact.

    http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKCN0QQ0BW20150821

    But the details in those "Classified" stamps — which include a string of dates, letters and numbers describing the nature of the classification — appear to undermine this account, a Reuters examination of the emails and the relevant regulations has found.
    The new stamps indicate that some of Clinton's emails from her time as the nation's most senior diplomat are filled with a type of information the U.S. government and the department's own regulations automatically deems classified from the get-go — regardless of whether it is already marked that way or not.
    In the small fraction of emails made public so far, Reuters has found at least 30 email threads from 2009, representing scores of individual emails, that include what the State Department's own "Classified" stamps now identify as so-called 'foreign government information.' The U.S. government defines this as any information, written or spoken, provided in confidence to U.S. officials by their foreign counterparts.
    This sort of information, which the department says Clinton both sent and received in her emails, is the only kind that must be "presumed" classified, in part to protect national security and the integrity of diplomatic interactions, according to U.S. regulations examined by Reuters.
    "It's born classified," said J. William Leonard, a former director of the U.S. government's Information Security Oversight Office (ISOO). Leonard was director of ISOO, part of the National Archives and Records Administration, from 2002 until 2008, and worked for both the Bill Clinton and George W. Bush administrations.
    "If a foreign minister just told the secretary of state something in confidence, by U.S. rules that is classified at the moment it's in U.S. channels and U.S. possession," he said in a telephone interview, adding that for the State Department to say otherwise was "blowing smoke."



    and then explain how the ACTUAL NDA I posted that she signed is "speculative"

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    Please... tell me what is speculative in this article and not fact.

    http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKCN0QQ0BW20150821

    But the details in those "Classified" stamps — which include a string of dates, letters and numbers describing the nature of the classification — appear to undermine this account, a Reuters examination of the emails and the relevant regulations has found.
    The new stamps indicate that some of Clinton's emails from her time as the nation's most senior diplomat are filled with a type of information the U.S. government and the department's own regulations automatically deems classified from the get-go — regardless of whether it is already marked that way or not.
    In the small fraction of emails made public so far, Reuters has found at least 30 email threads from 2009, representing scores of individual emails, that include what the State Department's own "Classified" stamps now identify as so-called 'foreign government information.' The U.S. government defines this as any information, written or spoken, provided in confidence to U.S. officials by their foreign counterparts.
    This sort of information, which the department says Clinton both sent and received in her emails, is the only kind that must be "presumed" classified, in part to protect national security and the integrity of diplomatic interactions, according to U.S. regulations examined by Reuters.
    "It's born classified," said J. William Leonard, a former director of the U.S. government's Information Security Oversight Office (ISOO). Leonard was director of ISOO, part of the National Archives and Records Administration, from 2002 until 2008, and worked for both the Bill Clinton and George W. Bush administrations.
    "If a foreign minister just told the secretary of state something in confidence, by U.S. rules that is classified at the moment it's in U.S. channels and U.S. possession," he said in a telephone interview, adding that for the State Department to say otherwise was "blowing smoke."



    and then explain how the ACTUAL NDA I posted that she signed is "speculative"
    I'm talking about when you go on a tangent about some rogue german hacker that did this or that, or take some fake judge from fox news saying how Hillary is ed.

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    I'm talking about when you go on a tangent about some rogue german hacker that did this or that, or take some fake judge from fox news saying how Hillary is ed.
    And I'm talking about this specific article I posted. Are you finally admitting she did in fact send/receive classified, at the time, material through her homebrew server.

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    And I'm talking about this specific article I posted. Are you finally admitting she did in fact send/receive classified, at the time, material through her homebrew server.
    It appears that she did, yes.

    Did she know this herself? That's what needs to be proven and what the FBI is having a hard time trying to prove.

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    It appears that she did, yes.

    Did she know this herself? That's what needs to be proven and what the FBI is having a hard time trying to prove.
    It doesn't "appear she did", she did. And of course she knew, she signed an NDA specifically stating she knew this. I've already posted the NDA, and already posted the the law stating gross negligence is no excuse.

    If she is not indicted our justice system is a complete farce.

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    If she is not indicted our justice system is a complete farce.
    No, if she doesn't get indicted it was because there wasn't enough evidence to throw her in jail for it.

    The people that are investigating this have even come out and say there is barely anything there that could stick as far as criminal charges go. You cant throw someone in jail without 100%, without a shadow of proof. Just because you dont like her doesn't mean she gets the ty end of the stick. Due process is due process.

    Even if she did, which I know you are of that thinking, if the FBI cant prove it, its too bad for them. She would have out smarted them.

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    No, if she doesn't get indicted it was because there wasn't enough evidence to throw her in jail for it.

    The people that are investigating this have even come out and say there is barely anything there that could stick as far as criminal charges go. You cant throw someone in jail without 100%, without a shadow of proof. Just because you dont like her doesn't mean she gets the ty end of the stick. Due process is due process.

    Even if she did, which I know you are of that thinking, if the FBI cant prove it, its too bad for them. She would have out smarted them.
    The FBI is the one investigating her.

    Please post your link where the FBI said "there is barely anything there that could stick as far as criminal charges go".

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    The FBI is the one investigating her.

    Please post your link where the FBI said "there is barely anything there that could stick as far as criminal charges go".
    ... but not investigating, criminalizing Colin Powell and other top officials who used private email?

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    ... but not investigating, criminalizing Colin Powell and other top officials who used private email?
    Name another one that intentionally set up a private server in their house for all their official business.

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    Name another one that intentionally set up a private server in their house for all their official business.
    So YOUR objection is that Hillary setup her own mail server, but all the other top govt officials who used mail servers on Internet for govt business get a pass?

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    So YOUR objection is that Hillary setup her own mail server, but all the other top govt officials who used mail servers on Internet for govt business get a pass?
    No dumbass. i asked Reck for his link where the FBI said Hillary didn't do anything wrong.

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    No, if she doesn't get indicted it was because there wasn't enough evidence to throw her in jail for it.

    The people that are investigating this have even come out and say there is barely anything there that could stick as far as criminal charges go. You cant throw someone in jail without 100%, without a shadow of proof. Just because you dont like her doesn't mean she gets the ty end of the stick. Due process is due process.

    Even if she did, which I know you are of that thinking, if the FBI cant prove it, its too bad for them. She would have out smarted them.
    ANY evidence is ENOUGH evidence. You are having trouble grasping this.

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    Hillary Clinton aide moves to block release of deposition video

    Hillary Clinton's former chief of staff, Cheryl Mills, is asking a federal judge to order a conservative group not to release audio or video recordings of a deposition Mills is scheduled to give Friday about Clinton's use of a private email server during her tenure as secretary of state.
    Mills' attorneys filed a motion Wednesday afternoon saying they fear that the group that sought Mills' deposition in a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit, Judicial Watch, will use any recording to distort Mills' testimony and advance the group's anti-Clinton agenda.
    "We are concerned that snippets or soundbites of the deposition may be publicized in a way that exploits Ms. Mills’ image and voice in an unfair and misleading manner," attorneys Beth Wilkinson and Alexandra Walsh wrote in the motion submitted to U.S. District Court Judge Emmet Sullivan. "Ms. Mills is not a party to this action. She is a private citizen appearing voluntarily to assist in providing the limited discovery the Court has permitted. ... Judicial Watch should not be allowed to manipulate Ms. Mills’ testimony, and invade her personal privacy, to advance a partisan agenda that should have nothing to do with this litigation."

    The motion says Mills has no objection to releasing the transcript of her testimony, although the State Department has said it may object if the testimony strays into areas that are supposed to be off-limits according to the judge's order permitting the deposition.
    Mills' filing asserts that audio or video clips would be more easily taken out of context than a transcript but does not make entirely clear why written quotes could not be similarly distorted.
    Sullivan issued an order shortly after the motion was filed giving the conservative group until noon Thursday to offer a formal response to the motion.
    A spokeswoman for Judicial Watch said the group is evaluating the motion and will respond by the judge's deadline.
    In addition to Mills, former Clinton deputy chief of staff Huma Abedin and computer technician Bryan Pagliano are scheduled to give depositions in the coming weeks. It's unclear whether any limits put on videos of Mills' testimony would be applied to their appearances, but if the judge agrees to Mills' request it seems likely the others would ask for similar treatment.
    One current State Department official gave a deposition last week, and several others are expected to do so over the next month or so in accordance with an order Sullivan issued earlier this month.
    Sullivan has left open the possibility of calling Clinton for a deposition in the case. Judicial Watch has already formally asked a judge handling a parallel case to order Clinton to give testimony, but there's been no ruling on that request.


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    The FBI is the one investigating her.

    Please post your link where the FBI said "there is barely anything there that could stick as far as criminal charges go".
    I meant the people doing the audit. My bad.

    But I already went over this with TSA a few pages back.

    http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...=1#post8570353

    Go read that post with the quote.

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    I meant the people doing the audit. My bad.

    But I already went over this with TSA a few pages back.

    http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...=1#post8570353

    Go read that post with the quote.
    Your post with the quote said they found evidence lol

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    Haven't seen any mention of the IG report (watch the 2nd video - sorry I don't know how to embed it here):

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vid...r_hillary.html

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    Your post with the quote said they found evidence lol
    You still dont know what scant means. lol

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    You still dont know what scant means. lol
    finding scant evidence = finding evidence
    Although I would hardly call the State Department's revelation "scant"

    22 Hillary Clinton emails declared 'top secret' by State Dept.

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    I still think you are just pulling an excellent troll job as I don't believe anyone is really this naïve, but I'm willing to play along.

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    finding scant evidence = finding evidence
    Although I would hardly call the State Department's revelation "scant"

    22 Hillary Clinton emails declared 'top secret' by State Dept.

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    I still think you are just pulling an excellent troll job as I don't believe anyone is really this naïve, but I'm willing to play along.
    As scathing as this report was, it was nothing more than her breaking the rules. It doesn't say she did something illegal or they would have said it, no?

    Whose to say the scant evidence the FBI said they found so far is what the State Dept. just declared they found?

    If that's all there is then they have nothing to charge her with. But we shall see.

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    As scathing as this report was, it was nothing more than her breaking the rules. It doesn't say she did something illegal or they would have said it, no?

    Whose to say the scant evidence the FBI said they found so far is what the State Dept. just declared they found?

    If that's all there is then they have nothing to charge her with. But we shall see.
    What she did was illegal, gross negligence is not an excuse, clearly stated below.


    18 Us Code Section 793

    (f) Whoever, being entrusted with or having lawful possession or control of any do ent, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, note, or information, relating to the national defense, (1) through gross negligence permits the same to be removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of his trust, or to be lost, stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, or (2) having knowledge that the same has been illegally removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of its trust, or lost, or stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, and fails to make prompt report of such loss, theft, abstraction, or destruction to his superior officer

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    What she did was illegal, gross negligence is not an excuse, clearly stated below.


    18 Us Code Section 793

    (f) Whoever, being entrusted with or having lawful possession or control of any do ent, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, note, or information, relating to the national defense, (1) through gross negligence permits the same to be removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of his trust, or to be lost, stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, or (2) having knowledge that the same has been illegally removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of its trust, or lost, or stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, and fails to make prompt report of such loss, theft, abstraction, or destruction to his superior officer
    Let us wait until this plays out then.

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    These Lumber gots crack me up with their trendy little beards.

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    These Lumber gots crack me up with their trendy little beards.
    Duck Dynasty cretins and frauds were real trend setters.

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