2016 Copa America Centenario

[TheGreatYacht]

He didn't have help?

Not as much help as having Iniesta, Ronaldinho, Xavi, Neymar, and Suarez....

But there's a big hunt in Mexico to find him and the 6 masked dudes who took him and his gf, they dropped off his gf unharmed but they have him.

[lefty]

Not as much help as having Iniesta, Ronaldinho, Xavi, Neymar, and Suarez....

But there's a big hunt in Mexico to find him and the 6 masked dudes who took him and his gf, they dropped off his gf unharmed but they have him.

Your country is ed up tbh

I hope he'll be fine

[lefty]

Kaka's corpse is still playing for Brazil

[elemento]

Kaka's corpse is still playing for Brazil

Along with Oliveira's corpse as well

At least that moronic HC finally gave Coutinho a chance. Kid is legit.

[TheGreatYacht]

Your country is ed up tbh

I hope he'll be fine

[dfens]

Along with Oliveira's corpse as well

At least that moronic HC finally gave Coutinho a chance. Kid is legit.

son wtf is going in with brazil? for such a populous, prestigius and football obsessed country your NT royally sucks. Brazil's style these days looks like a more technical variant of nigball. Is it because of the coaches not picking good talent? Has brazil stopped producing talent? I mean you look at the roster and the playing style and compare it to 1994/1998/2002/2006 and you just don't know what to say. In 2010 I thought it was an off period but 2014 showed that brazil is an england-level team these days.

I fondly remember the 90s and early 00s brazil teams, that 2002 final I wasn't even mad we lost, it's like getting spanked by a GOAT team. I can honestly say I'm proud to have seen that roster live. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002_F..._squads#Brazil

, nowadays brazil looks like the lakers. What gives?

[lefty]

Overtime, Brazil 's footbalm has become more "Europeanized".
It didn't happen overnight, but it did

If you look at the great Brazil teams from the 60s, 70s, 80s, their players including their stars were playing in the Brazilian League
It's no coincidence the NTs played with a pure Brazilian style, with panache and offensive freedom.

That's why they were so good and confident

[elemento]

son wtf is going in with brazil? for such a populous, prestigius and football obsessed country your NT royally sucks. Brazil's style these days looks like a more technical variant of nigball. Is it because of the coaches not picking good talent? Has brazil stopped producing talent? I mean you look at the roster and the playing style and compare it to 1994/1998/2002/2006 and you just don't know what to say. In 2010 I thought it was an off period but 2014 showed that brazil is an england-level team these days.

I fondly remember the 90s and early 00s brazil teams, that 2002 final I wasn't even mad we lost, it's like getting spanked by a GOAT team. I can honestly say I'm proud to have seen that roster live. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002_F..._squads#Brazil

, nowadays brazil looks like the lakers. What gives?

What's up son

Brazil always won based on generational talent. Pele, Garrincha, Romario, Ronaldo, R.Carlos, Cafu, Ronaldinho, Rivaldo, etc. From 94 to 06 Brazil pretty much won every possible le, went to 3 straight WC finals, but they had the talent to overcome massive management failures, not only inside the football field (Felipao lol), but outside as well (CBF).

The problem right now is a bit of everything that you said. Brazil never had good management and only a couple of good coaches in the past. When other countries closed the gap talent-wise, Brazil simply looked garbage. Felipao won in 2002 (a thousand coaches could have won with that roster tbh) , but was embarrassed in 2014 because he was completely outcoached and Germany had way more talent than Brazil.

Brazil still produces some talent, but compared to what Brazil had from 94-06 or the 60s/70s/80s it's really nothing special. The football culture here is too strong, so I expect Brazil to start producing elite talent once again (especially 9s that seem to be the weak link right now), but they will need to step up in other areas as well, especially coaching and outside management. Something like what Germany did post Euro 2000 fiasco would be awesome for the football here.

In that FIFA scandal, 3 big guys went down in Brazil, one a former CBF President. Things are slowly getting better in Brazil with several guys involved in corruption going to prison.

Only 1 BR coach ( e) was humble enough to realize that he needed an update and went to Europe to study for an entire year. All the other Dinosaurs felt that they were fine, including Dunga. No wonder that in the past 4 years, this coach won 1 Paulista, 2 Brasileiraos, a Libertadores, a Recopa and a FIFA Club World Cup (only coach in the past 9 editions able to beat an European team there). He will take over the NT eventually, then I'll start to believe again. Right now, I think Brazil could put at least a compe ive team on the field against elite teams even with this generation, but not with this coach.

[Canyonero]

elemento are you still trying to nationalize Pratto?

[Brazil]

son wtf is going in with brazil? for such a populous, prestigius and football obsessed country your NT royally sucks. Brazil's style these days looks like a more technical variant of nigball. Is it because of the coaches not picking good talent? Has brazil stopped producing talent? I mean you look at the roster and the playing style and compare it to 1994/1998/2002/2006 and you just don't know what to say. In 2010 I thought it was an off period but 2014 showed that brazil is an england-level team these days.

I fondly remember the 90s and early 00s brazil teams, that 2002 final I wasn't even mad we lost, it's like getting spanked by a GOAT team. I can honestly say I'm proud to have seen that roster live. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002_F..._squads#Brazil

, nowadays brazil looks like the lakers. What gives?

Brazil is going nowhere with Dunga and with actual CBF... totally outdated bunch of old farts

They need to have a deep house cleaning, the massacre against Germany could have been the opportunity to reform dat but they did nothing, too much money and corruption involved. All compe ions organized by CBF are totally ed up. Brazil runs its football like in the 80's

[lefty]

See :

My previous post

[elemento]

elemento are you still trying to nationalize Pratto?

The Atletico-MG forward? As far as I know this dude got pissed last year because Tata never gave him a call and tried to put some pressure on Tata saying that Dunga called him and said he was one of the best forwards of Brasileirao and that he would actually consider a Brazilian offer.

Then I saw the media translating it as if Dunga was actually trying to nationalize him, something that never happened. Only Atletico-MG fanboys hype this guy. Did you watch this guy in the Libertadores? Straight up trash.

I mean, the forward situation in Brazil is bad, but not Pratto bad . I don't think this guy has level to play in a any decent South American NT.

He is a decent foward in "Brasileirao", but Olivera's corpse is still better than him. He is like a homeless hunchback version of Martin Palermo

[lefty]

Wow apprently Pulido punched one of the kidnappers, grabbed the gun shot the guy, broke the window and escaped


TheGreatYacht

[TheGreatYacht]

Wow apprently Pulido punched one of the kidnappers, grabbed the gun shot the guy, broke the window and escaped


TheGreatYacht

unreal scene of true

Alan Pulltrigger tbh

[lefty]

unreal scene of true

Alan Pulltrigger tbh

Messi couldn't have done that tbh.

Mexicans are ALPHA.

Maradona must have Mexican blood tbh

[Canyonero]

The Atletico-MG forward? As far as I know this dude got pissed last year because Tata never gave him a call and tried to put some pressure on Tata saying that Dunga called him and said he was one of the best forwards of Brasileirao and that he would actually consider a Brazilian offer.

Then I saw the media translating it as if Dunga was actually trying to nationalize him, something that never happened. Only Atletico-MG fanboys hype this guy. Did you watch this guy in the Libertadores? Straight up trash.

I mean, the forward situation in Brazil is bad, but not Pratto bad . I don't think this guy has level to play in a any decent South American NT.

He is a decent foward in "Brasileirao", but Olivera's corpse is still better than him. He is like a homeless hunchback version of Martin Palermo

The good old Pratão (or Prattinho)

[TheGreatYacht]

Messi couldn't have done that tbh.

Mexicans are ALPHA.

Maradona must have Mexican blood tbh

The hand of God happened in Mexico

Coincedence? I think not

[Canyonero]

Wow apprently Pulido punched one of the kidnappers, grabbed the gun shot the guy, broke the window and escaped


TheGreatYacht

Yea right

[lefty]

The hand of God happened in Mexico

Coincedence? I think not

Good point

[Canyonero]

The government has intervened the AFA because of irregularities. NT might be kicked out of the Copa America.

[IronMaxipad]

Wow apprently Pulido punched one of the kidnappers, grabbed the gun shot the guy, broke the window and escaped


TheGreatYacht

ing boss if true.

edit: http://abcnews.go.com/International/...pping-39475512

oh its true

edit2: https://streamable.com/z6j2

[dfens]

What's up son

Brazil always won based on generational talent. Pele, Garrincha, Romario, Ronaldo, R.Carlos, Cafu, Ronaldinho, Rivaldo, etc. From 94 to 06 Brazil pretty much won every possible le, went to 3 straight WC finals, but they had the talent to overcome massive management failures, not only inside the football field (Felipao lol), but outside as well (CBF).

The problem right now is a bit of everything that you said. Brazil never had good management and only a couple of good coaches in the past. When other countries closed the gap talent-wise, Brazil simply looked garbage. Felipao won in 2002 (a thousand coaches could have won with that roster tbh) , but was embarrassed in 2014 because he was completely outcoached and Germany had way more talent than Brazil.

Brazil still produces some talent, but compared to what Brazil had from 94-06 or the 60s/70s/80s it's really nothing special. The football culture here is too strong, so I expect Brazil to start producing elite talent once again (especially 9s that seem to be the weak link right now), but they will need to step up in other areas as well, especially coaching and outside management. Something like what Germany did post Euro 2000 fiasco would be awesome for the football here.

In that FIFA scandal, 3 big guys went down in Brazil, one a former CBF President. Things are slowly getting better in Brazil with several guys involved in corruption going to prison.

Only 1 BR coach ( e) was humble enough to realize that he needed an update and went to Europe to study for an entire year. All the other Dinosaurs felt that they were fine, including Dunga. No wonder that in the past 4 years, this coach won 1 Paulista, 2 Brasileiraos, a Libertadores, a Recopa and a FIFA Club World Cup (only coach in the past 9 editions able to beat an European team there). He will take over the NT eventually, then I'll start to believe again. Right now, I think Brazil could put at least a compe ive team on the field against elite teams even with this generation, but not with this coach.

don't worry son, they'll be back, the lakers are always coming back tbh, even with all the jimbos

Brazil is going nowhere with Dunga and with actual CBF... totally outdated bunch of old farts

They need to have a deep house cleaning, the massacre against Germany could have been the opportunity to reform dat but they did nothing, too much money and corruption involved. All compe ions organized by CBF are totally ed up. Brazil runs its football like in the 80's

don't think many countries can pull that off, you need to get the federation and the clubs to have both continuity and dedication. In germany this succeeded party/mostly because the teams are heavily supported locally, and you get decent $$$ redistribution. It's not about the U16/U18/U21 it's about the transition of young players from U18 to heavy playing time for their teams, otherwise england would be a real powerhouse (great results at U21/U18). I don't know how this works in brazil

unreal scene of true

Alan Pulltrigger tbh

ing boss if true.

edit: http://abcnews.go.com/International/...pping-39475512

oh its true

edit2: https://streamable.com/z6j2

god damn sons, mexico is the ing wild west, nobody gives a

[Brazil]

don't think many countries can pull that off, you need to get the federation and the clubs to have both continuity and dedication. In germany this succeeded party/mostly because the teams are heavily supported locally, and you get decent $$$ redistribution. It's not about the U16/U18/U21 it's about the transition of young players from U18 to heavy playing time for their teams, otherwise england would be a real powerhouse (great results at U21/U18). I don't know how this works in brazil

This transition is imo the big problem in Brazil... Brazilian teams organization is a mess for inside and outside reasons. In the inside, they rushed young players when they run out of options, the teams are totally unbalanced and moved towards immediate profits for club and agents so you have a team with 7 midfields then you are short of defensive dudes, one is injured, you rush a young dude and you burn him. Outside, Brazilian players even very average are receiving insane financial offers from everywhere but recently a lot from China, so you have young potentials that are going to waste their talents in China and are lost for NT. Other consequence of that is whatever team do great like Corinthians last year and you have to rebuild everything from scratch because the core players are gone after one single good season. Almost impossible to plan.

They need a deep reform but that won't happen anytime soon

[urunobili]

Argentina about to quit? Bosta out of the libertadores too?

http://www.foxdeportes.com/copa-amer...roximas-horas/

[Canyonero]

The government has intervened the AFA because of irregularities. NT might be kicked out of the Copa America.

Argentina about to quit? Bosta out of the libertadores too?

http://www.foxdeportes.com/copa-amer...roximas-horas/