The pre-draft assessement of Aldrdige was spot-on

[Slippy]

TBH it is a deflection thread and you know it. Kawhi got slammed here for a few weeks for his ty performance hence all these threads by you slamming LMA. If you read my post I said both of them were inconsistent in the playoffs and neither are legit superstars. By your logic I guess I'm a hater of both. If this thread was created by any other spur fan I could look at it with objectivity but in your case it's very obvious you are a hardcore Kawhi fan boy. Everything you post has to be taken with a grain of salt since you have obvious biases just like Fox News.

Kstorm a fan boy & fox news is being kind. I'd say he reaching groupy status & reporting like the Iraqi information minister. Lol

[Clipper Nation]

You should have said like "DeAndre at the free throw line", or "CP3 winning a conference semis" or "Doc passing a competency test".

Or "Hoops got trying to come up with basketball takes."

[Kawhitstorm]

Kstorm a fan boy & fox news is being kind. I'd say he reaching groupy status & reporting like the Iraqi information minister. Lol

I've never read their reports but I'm going to assume that the Iraqi information minister publishes fact checked press releases.

[AFMadison]

You are legit posting the same irrelevant posts over and over again. You've literally resorted to tweets, and blaming Kyle Anderson. Let me get back to the statistics and points of conversation.

So, we were arguing who the MVP for the Spurs was between LMA and Kawhi against OKC for the entire series. You deflected, and started breaking down game by game. I agreed and I saw LMA as the MVP over Kawhi 4-2. You saw it as I believe Kawhi 3-2 over LMA and didn't include a 6th game. Then we argued MVP for game 2. You decided to dive into analytics and chose WPA to choose your MVP for game 2, so I agreed with you and said, ok.... I'll give you game 2 since WPA is accurate in predicting MVP's and LVP's per game/series. After I showed you that LMA's overall WPA for the OKC series was 0.43, declaring him the MVP, over Kawhis 0.39 you deflected again. You then posted some Pop YouTube video and some more emojis. You mentioned The LVP in Westbrook, but failed to mention Durant as the MVP when Kawhi was burned by Durant in that 4th Quarter game 4. Then you deflected again, telling me that WPA doesn't factor in defense. So I researched WPA defensive statistics, finding LMA as the leader in blocks, Kawhi as the leader in steals. You deflected again. I then mentioned to you that Kawhi and Tony tied for dead last in TO WPA. (That's a bad thing). You deflected again. Statistically speaking, you're done.

I won't even start on CrippleNation, only posts here as a social hobby to fit in with groups. Has no bball IQ and thinks he can deflect basketball knowledge by calling people gots.

[daslicer]

Kstorm a fan boy & fox news is being kind. I'd say he reaching groupy status & reporting like the Iraqi information minister. Lol

I remember Bagdad Bob that guy was comedy. I have to say that is a great comparison.

[RD2191]

Actually, it's RD2191's account when he's trying to act sophisticated. A poster like this usually latches on to a host like Harlem in hopes that posters will like them (ie. dabom) and they won't come off looking like the inane, simpleminded, degenerate fool that they are in real life. This clown couldn't even breathe in Harlem's airspace let alone read and post on a conversation that was above a second grade reading level.

[Kawhitstorm]

So, we were arguing who the MVP for the Spurs was between LMA and Kawhi against OKC for the entire series. You deflected, and started breaking down game by game.

IDIOT, what is not to understand that performance in a playoff series is judge on game-by-game basis while factoring in consistency b/c of the small sample size?

According to your logic, if a player scored 50 point in one game then scored 10 in the next game then they had a better two game stretch than a player that scored 25 in each game b/c 60>50. EVER IN' heard of CONSISTENCY?

I agreed and I saw LMA as the MVP over Kawhi 4-2. You saw it as I believe Kawhi 3-2 over LMA and didn't include a 6th game.

Are you seriously going to claim LMA outplayed Kawhi in GM 6 by any significant margin?

Then we argued MVP for game 2. You decided to dive into analytics and chose WPA to choose your MVP for game 2, so I agreed with you and said, ok.... I'll give you game 2 since WPA is accurate in predicting MVP's and LVP's per game/series. After I showed you that LMA's overall WPA for the OKC series was 0.43, declaring him the MVP, over Kawhis 0.39 you deflected again.

Dumbass, the WPA was broken down on GAME-BY-GAME basis as the sample size is TOO SMALL to do a ulative analysis b/c of this things called *outliers* which are EXCLUDED from any large sample size to be STATISTICALLY VALID (I suggest that you google it but you are CLEARLY oblivious)

You then posted some Pop YouTube video and some more emojis. You mentioned The LVP in Westbrook, but failed to mention Durant as the MVP when Kawhi was burned by Durant in that 4th Quarter game 4. Then you deflected again, telling me that WPA doesn't factor in defense. So I researched WPA defensive statistics, finding LMA as the leader in blocks, Kawhi as the leader in steals.

Can you EXPLAIN to me why Curry/Whiteside didn't win DPOY nor made the All-NBA Defense 1st team despite leading the league in steals/blocks respectively?

You deflected again. I then mentioned to you that Kawhi and Tony tied for dead last in TO WPA. (That's a bad thing). You deflected again. Statistically speaking, you're done.

Dumbass, Tony had a very LOW turnover rate thus Kawhi having the same turnover WPA ISN'T such a bad thing.

Has no bball IQ

Meanwhile, you're the genius that uses blocks/steals as defensive metric. James IN' Harden was 4th in steals per game this postseason.

Bottom line:
Gm 1: 10-10
Gm 2: 10-7 LMA
Gm 3: 10-8 Kawhi
Gm 4: 10-10
Gm 5: 10-8 Kawhi
Gm 6: 10-10

Decision: 57-56 Kawhi

After Gm 2, the series might as well have been 0-0 & a best of 5 w/ OKC having HCA. Kawhi stole back HCA in Gm 3 & was the only one that showed up in Gm 5, meanwhile Softrdige was MIA for the ENTIRE "best of 5" mini-series.

[GSH]

I'm not sure what your issue is w/ the Jermaine O'Neal comparison.

I don't know... maybe because they're two different types of players? Aldridge is in the Top 10 for 2P FGM nearly every year, and O'Neal probably never was (maybe once). O'Neal was in the Top 10 for personal fouls committed most years, and Aldridge never is. O'Neal shot over half of his shots from mid-range and shot about .390, while Aldridge shoots about 40% of his shots from midrange, and shoots about .440 on them. Bottom line, O'Neal was a ing headcase, bull-in-a-China shop. (For his career, he averaged almost 6 fouls per 100 possessions. Aldridge commits about 4, and that is skewed by his first two seasons.)

But, hey, if you throw all that out, they're practically identical. That DraftExpress article is amazing.

They are both slightly built lanky 6'11"... they were basically claiming if LMA ever grew a pair he would be a Jermaine O'Neal type player.

I guess if he grew a beard, he'd be a James Harden type player.

[Kawhitstorm]

I don't know... maybe because they're two different types of players?

You mean LMA career DIVERGED towards being a rich man's Channing Frye instead of following JO's trajectory when he could have gone either way. No different than James Harden being projected to be a Brandon Roy type player but turning into a no-defense-playing-foul-baitin'-ball-hog-gunner like Gilbert Arenas.

Aldridge is in the Top 10 for 2P FGM nearly every year, and O'Neal probably never was (maybe once). O'Neal was in the Top 10 for personal fouls committed most years, and Aldridge never is. O'Neal shot over half of his shots from mid-range and shot about .390, while Aldridge shoots about 40% of his shots from midrange, and shoots about .440 on them.

Who the said LMA in his prime would be EXACTLY like JO? LMA chose the rich man's Channing Frye path so he's OBVIOUSLY hasn't had a career similar to JO.

Bottom line, O'Neal was a ing headcase, bull-in-a-China shop. (For his career, he averaged almost 6 fouls per 100 possessions. Aldridge commits about 4, and that is skewed by his first two seasons.)

Again, LMA NEVER grew a pair. JO finished 3rd in MVP voting which LMA will NEVER sniff despite having the PHYSICAL ability to be a dominant two-way player unlike Kevin Love.

I guess if he grew a beard, he'd be a James Harden type player.

I thought that was Jonathon Simmons?

[YGWHI]

Leonard crapped the bed in game 2 in the 4th
Leonard crapped the bed in game 4 in the 4th
Leonard and Aldridge crapped the bed in game 5 in the 4th.
Leonard and LMA came scared and crapped the bed the whole game 6.

cowards. both of them, but more so KL

Wait, he doesn't include LMA in game 4?

When a troll suggests that LMA had a solid game 4...

[spursistan]

It's so funny seeing that Hardwood tweet. OKC was not solvable but SA was? He said it was just game 5 where SA missed shots, but he didn't want to go the full "not give credit" route and just say in the series SA missed good looks when the stats show it.

So, SA was solvable and OKC was not when SA held the 2nd best offense in the league to under 100 in 4 out of 6? OKC looked solvable in GM1. I guess that 1 point difference in GM2, that win by SA in GM3 & that 4 point difference in GM5 (even GM4 was close for most of the game) really shows that huge glaring difference and OKC solving SA!

that dude (HP basketball) is too prone to hyperbolic, emotionally charged takes on twitter..it just like he gets kicks out of teasing fanbases with either constant whiny or point-blank statements.

[DPG21920]

Ya - he's really weird. He trolls on Twitter and then writes decent articles.

[GSH]

Who the said LMA in his prime would be EXACTLY like JO?

Your stupid-ass article said that LMA's "ceiling" would be Jermaine O'Neal. That's like saying Steven Adams' ceiling is Dirk Nowitzki. Two totally different TYPE of players, who do different things on the floor. But, hey, they're both really tall white guys. You chose a stupid ing DraftExpress article to start this stupid ing thread. Now you have to keep trying to wiggle out of it with make-believe technicalities.

NO, the old DraftExpress article was not "spot-on". You're mad because "your team" lost in the playoffs, so now you're throwing a schoolgirl fit, and calling guys "soft" who would stomp a mud-hole in your candy ass. Go get yourself some Vagisil, so you're not scratching things this whole off season.



Edit: Make sure your response is in all caps, like the one above. That always strengthens a argument, and makes you look tougher.

[AFMadison]

IDIOT, what is not to understand that performance in a playoff series is judge on game-by-game basis while factoring in consistency b/c of the small sample size?

According to your logic, if a player scored 50 point in one game then scored 10 in the next game then they had a better two game stretch than a player that scored 25 in each game b/c 60>50. EVER IN' heard of CONSISTENCY?



Are you seriously going to claim LMA outplayed Kawhi in GM 6 by any significant margin?



Dumbass, the WPA was broken down on GAME-BY-GAME basis as the sample size is TOO SMALL to do a ulative analysis b/c of this things called *outliers* which are EXCLUDED from any large sample size to be STATISTICALLY VALID (I suggest that you google it but you are CLEARLY oblivious)






Can you EXPLAIN to me why Curry/Whiteside didn't win DPOY nor made the All-NBA Defense 1st team despite leading the league in steals/blocks respectively?



Dumbass, Tony had a very LOW turnover rate thus Kawhi having the same turnover WPA ISN'T such a bad thing.



Meanwhile, you're the genius that uses blocks/steals as defensive metric. James IN' Harden was 4th in steals per game this postseason.

Bottom line:
Gm 1: 10-10
Gm 2: 10-7 LMA
Gm 3: 10-8 Kawhi
Gm 4: 10-10
Gm 5: 10-8 Kawhi
Gm 6: 10-10

Decision: 57-56 Kawhi

After Gm 2, the series might as well have been 0-0 & a best of 5 w/ OKC having HCA. Kawhi stole back HCA in Gm 3 & was the only one that showed up in Gm 5, meanwhile Softrdige was MIA for the ENTIRE "best of 5" mini-series.

Now I got you changing your font size. It's over bro.
You brought up the stat and I wrecked you in it.
I've already made the case for game 6, and again we're talking about the overall MVP of the series. (LMA)
Durant poured it on Kawhi when it really mattered in game 4, and in 6 was letting Roberson look like a defensive MVP out there in the close out game, meanwhile LMA is out rebounding everyone on 50% shooting. Kawhi chucked, and sank again into a mediocre all star like he did against the Clips. Kawhi has Superstar potential, but for now he's just an all star.

[Kawhitstorm]

Your stupid-ass article said that LMA's "ceiling" would be Jermaine O'Neal. That's like saying Steven Adams' ceiling is Dirk Nowitzki. Two totally different TYPE of players, who do different things on the floor

Are you familiar w/ Aldridge's game in college?
Comparing Steven Adams to Dirk is no where in the stratosphere as comparing LMA to JO.

LMA has EVERY FREAKIN' skillset to be like JO but he chose to be a space cadet like Frye who plays soft defense meanwhile Adams has never shot a jump-shot in his life & Dirk has never played post defense like Adams for one possession in his life.

Harden was compared to Brandon Roy coming out of college & had EVERY SKILLET to be like Roy but that's not the path he CHOSE so are you going to claim that just a case of two 6'6" black guys being compared to each other.

But, hey, they're both really tall white guys. You chose a stupid ing DraftExpress article to start this stupid ing thread. Now you have to keep trying to wiggle out of it with make-believe technicalities.

I'm pretty you had a better scouting report on LMA's game in college than those that work for DrafExpress.

NO, the old DraftExpress article was not "spot-on". You're mad because "your team" lost in the playoffs, so now you're throwing a schoolgirl fit, and calling guys "soft" who would stomp a mud-hole in your candy ass. Go get yourself some Vagisil, so you're not scratching things this whole off season.

Someone has their panties in bunches:

Make sure your response is in all caps, like the one above. That always strengthens a argument, and makes you look tougher.

Make sure you know what you're talking about before you punch your keyboard furiously.

[Kawhitstorm]

You brought up the stat and I wrecked you in it.

I brought up the stats that wrecked your chicken sized brain b/c you have ZERO understanding of statistics.

James Harden, 8 Steal = DPOY!!!!

[AFMadison]

I brought up the stats that wrecked your chicken sized brain b/c you have ZERO understanding of statistics.

James Harden, 8 Steal = DPOY!!!!

Meaningless videos with outlandish comparisons doesn't help your argument

Kawhi led the league in steals WPA which is a great identifier for the DPOY. LMA led in WPA for the entire squad which is a great identifier for him as the series MVP.

Statistics

[tholdren]

Wait, he doesn't include LMA in game 4?

When a troll suggests that LMA had a solid game 4...

No one said he "had a solid game". You are letting your emotions get the best of you much like SATranny. He shot better than KL in that game. And at least he scored a single in the 4th compared to KL's 0.

You're debating who is the worst #1 option, and have the argument that either one of these boners are a legit scoring option. They aren't. Acting like KL has what it takes, yet, to lead this team is re ed. He can't score when it matters. No real way around that, no matter how many emojis you use.

[Kawhitstorm]

Kawhi led the league in steals WPA which is a great identifier for the DPOY.

Statistics

In statistics, the statement you made is called "correlation" which your chicken brain doesn't realize isn't a "GREAT IDENTIFIER" for anything. You are operating under a logical fallacy & are oblivious to it b/c your chicken brain power is limited.

[Kawhitstorm]

You're debating who is the worst #1 option, and have the argument that either one of these boners are a legit scoring option. They aren't. Acting like KL has what it takes, yet, to lead this team is re ed. He can't score when it matters. No real way around that, no matter how many emojis you use.

Softridge is a ONE-WAY player who's getting max money b/c he's supposed to be an ELITE scorer meanwhile Kawhi is TWO-WAY player who is as good a scorer as any of the ELITE wing defenders. If Softridge isn't scoring, he's USELESS. Kawhi could average 8 pts & still be a valuable role player like Iggy.

[AFMadison]

Softridge is a ONE-WAY player who's getting max money b/c he's supposed to be an ELITE scorer meanwhile Kawhi is TWO-WAY player who is as good a scorer as any of the ELITE wing defenders. If Softridge isn't scoring, he's USELESS. Kawhi could average 8 pts & still be a valuable role player like Iggy.

Stats say otherwise

[AFMadison]

In statistics, the statement you made is called "correlation" which your chicken brain doesn't realize isn't a "GREAT IDENTIFIER" for anything. You are operating under a logical fallacy & are oblivious to it b/c your chicken brain power is limited.

I used the same stat YOU used to prove a point

[Kawhitstorm]

I misused the same stat YOU used to prove a point

FIFY

[Kawhitstorm]

Stats say my IQ score is in the bottom 1%

FIFY

[tholdren]

Softridge is a ONE-WAY player who's getting max money b/c he's supposed to be an ELITE scorer meanwhile Kawhi is TWO-WAY player who is as good a scorer as any of the ELITE wing defenders. If Softridge isn't scoring, he's USELESS. Kawhi could average 8 pts & still be a valuable role player like Iggy.

At least you proved my point. KL not a #1 option, and neither is Marsha