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    The ONLY thing Spurs can't compete with is $$.
    The money is actually closer than you think. 5.25% state income tax in OK.

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    The money is actually closer than you think. 5.25% state income tax in OK.
    There's a jock tax for most (not all) away games, and you get to include income state taxes in your itemized federal return, effectively cutting the 5.25% difference at least in half. There's definitely a difference, but not huge. Cost of living in both places is low relative to NY/SF/LA/Miami.

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    There's a jock tax for most (not all) away games, and you get to include income state taxes in your itemized federal return, effectively cutting the 5.25% difference at least in half. There's definitely a difference, but not huge. Cost of living in both places is low relative to NY/SF/LA/Miami.
    like Durrant is concerned with that

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    Who knows how the league's landscape looks a year from now? All I'm saying is, right now, which is all we have to go off of, the Thunder have a better core.
    But that's my point..Spurs can sell NOW and what their team core will look like for the next 3-5yrs. NO team can do that other than GSW. I think that matters tbh..especially when the best organization in the league is pitching it you...Spurs have proven they have their together.

    Also the process of elimination. If Durant comes to SA the Thunder will be eliminated from true championship contention..which would only leave GSW as the team to compete with out West. Also if Durant signs a +1 in OKC they'd still have to compete with Spurs AND GSW..maybe the Spurs are the 3rd best team out West right now but they'd still be a hurdle OKC would more than likely see if they want to win..and it's not like OKC steam rolled SA...we saw Game 2, Game 4, and Game 5
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    KD is staying in OKC on a Max 2-year deal with an opt-out option next summer. That'll make him the most money and give him at least one more run at it with Westbrook and co.
    This is why I said he's staying at least one more year in OKC. He's not leaving that kind of cheese on the table. No way.


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    Let's just focus on luring Tiago back tbh...

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    This is why I said he's staying at least one more year in OKC. He's not leaving that kind of cheese on the table. No way.

    Makes sense to bet on himself.

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    This is why I said he's staying at least one more year in OKC. He's not leaving that kind of cheese on the table. No way.

    B-B-But Texas doesn't have state sales tax. He'd be stupid not to take 4/$110.9 from the Spurs rather than wait til next year and make a measly $208.1 over 5 years.

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    This is why I said he's staying at least one more year in OKC. He's not leaving that kind of cheese on the table. No way.

    That doesn't really tell the entire picture.

    If he leaves this off-season that's 4 years at 110.9
    If he re-signs with OKC for 5 years that's 150.2
    If he signs a 1 year plus 5 that's really 6 years at around 230

    So the question is will he be able to make up that money? In the 5 year deal with OKC that's a 80+M difference over 1 year. If he leaves that's a 123M difference over 2 years.Not likely he makes up either deal in those short time spans but another factor will be age. If he signs a 4 year deal he'll be almost 32 at the end of it, 5 year 33 and +1 and 5 he'll be almost 34. How will that impact his next contract? At 32 he could still bank on another max deal, at 34? Not as much.

    When you factor those 2 things out, leaving now vs signing a +1 next year actually ends up being pretty close assuming the cap is still 100+M 4 years from now. I think in either scenario he'd be making around $330M over the next 9 years. Of course there is a lot more risk involved in one scenario vs the other.

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    This is why I said he's staying at least one more year in OKC. He's not leaving that kind of cheese on the table. No way.

    Exactly. It's obvious to anyone who understands the league, but that rules out most ST posters these days unfortunately.

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    He can sign a 1 year deal with Spurs, make more in San Antonio the season after that. Odds are he resigns a 1 year deal with OKC, but to rule out the Spurs with the winning culture is foolish.

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    He can sign a 1 year deal with Spurs, make more in San Antonio the season after that. Odds are he resigns a 1 year deal with OKC, but to rule out the Spurs with the winning culture is foolish.
    Surely the Warrior's winning culture is even more attractive?

    He won't leave OKC, at least not until they fail again in 2017 (which is unlikely - I think they'll come back with a vengeance next year just like we did after 2013).

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    there is no diffirence between 110 m and 230 m for my life status.

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    Surely the Warrior's winning culture is even more attractive?

    He won't leave OKC, at least not until they fail again in 2017 (which is unlikely - I think they'll come back with a vengeance next year just like we did after 2013).
    If he goes there he'll be seen as the biggest coward beta ever

    Not if he comes here, he just beat our ass tbh

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    welcome to SAN ANTONIO KDDD!! )
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    He can sign a 1 year deal with Spurs, make more in San Antonio the season after that. Odds are he resigns a 1 year deal with OKC, but to rule out the Spurs with the winning culture is foolish.
    This. He can sign a 1 year deal with a new team, and then cash in next year with them. Like Lebron has done these past 2 years... E$PN hasn't thought of that scenario yet, they think the only teams that have a chance are the Lakers, Knicks, and Heat

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    This. He can sign a 1 year deal with a new team, and then cash in next year with them. Like Lebron has done these past 2 years... E$PN hasn't thought of that scenario yet, they think the only teams that have a chance are the Lakers, Knicks, and Heat
    He'd still be making less in this scenario than if he signs a 1+1 with OKC and then a new cotnract with OKC next summer.

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    He'd still be making less in this scenario than if he signs a 1+1 with OKC and then a new cotnract with OKC next summer.
    I know but it's still more that 4yr/110M

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    If he goes there he'll be seen as the biggest coward beta ever

    Not if he comes here, he just beat our ass tbh
    True about the Warriors, and that's not in his nature. He wants to do it against his rivals, not with them.

    Why then would he leave OKC? He fits them perfectly and they're a young team on the rise. Like it or not, we're entering a transition period, and our roster is full of holes.

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    Surely the Warrior's winning culture is even more attractive?

    He won't leave OKC, at least not until they fail again in 2017 (which is unlikely - I think they'll come back with a vengeance next year just like we did after 2013).
    Spurs have had far more success than the Warriors franchise, they have flourished under Kerr the past two seasons and those damn 3's seem like what Shaq used to do down low to defenders with dunks, they make you pay. Those 3's aren't gonna keep falling in forever, eventually they won't be able to keep that going consistently, and there will be a drop off.

    Spurs have more of a winning culture than the Warriors.

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    Spurs have had far more success than the Warriors franchise, they have flourished under Kerr the past two seasons and those damn 3's seem like what Shaq used to do down low to defenders with dunks, they make you pay. Those 3's aren't gonna keep falling in forever, eventually they won't be able to keep that going consistently, and there will be a drop off.

    Spurs have more of a winning culture than the Warriors.
    Spurs have a wonderful culture, but GSW are changing the game. The sample size is now big enough for us to know their shooting isn't flukey, it's simply superb. Dubs are in their prime and aren't going away for a while.

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    If Durant really cared about winning, he would have left a long time ago or request to be traded. I honestly don't think he cares if he wins a ring. If he does, he wants to be a support player with a superstars payday. It seems to me that he does not want to win because when the game is on the line he shrinks from the big moment and either he puts up a shot that he has no shot of hitting or turns over the ball. I think we are better suited using what cap space we have to pursue role players that actually want to win and have a chip on their shoulder. We have too much passivity on our current team. No one player that is intense or super compe ive. Manu was our fire for a long time but he cannot be count on to fulfill that role any longer. We need a player that is going to inject some fire in our roster. A wildcard so to speak.
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    agree!

    but who can that be?

    MJ???????

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    i say MJ's Bulls beat the out of the mentally weak GS Warriorsw

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    The ninja turtle did it

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