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2014 NBA Finals
Kawhi game 1: 9 points, 3-5 shooting, 2 rebounds, 0 assists, 4 turnovers
Kawhi game 2: 9 points, 3-9 shooting, 2 rebounds, 3 assists, fouled out
end result, finals MVP
As long as Lebron doesnt ring
2014 NBA Finals
Kawhi game 1: 9 points, 3-5 shooting, 2 rebounds, 0 assists, 4 turnovers
Kawhi game 2: 9 points, 3-9 shooting, 2 rebounds, 3 assists, fouled out
end result, finals MVP
Yup...because the Finals isn't over after one or two games.
I'm sure he'll be all broken up about having to celebrate his second le without it.
Mostly from s who have never played a sport. Its awful.
so this board is what matters is winning one day the other it is
but but dude had bad stats.... who gives a ? Curry drew defensive focus, Cavs made it clear they won't be beaten by Curry, rest of the team stepped up, what's wrong with that ? This just demonstrates Curry is not a chucker and is willing to do anything to win
See the thing is, everyone gives curry all the credit and praise, its a an absolute disrespect to the rest of the team. He is not as important as star players are to other teams. The Warriors would win a lot without him, and showed they could win playoff series without him. I mean what other Superstar can you say the same of?
They obviously see thru the pure that Media spews forth. Perhaps they had a sit, a sit early on where they settled it. There is no pretense, the camera would find it, but, it is simply not there. When one fails like last nite the others come to the fore like last nite and the one who fails permits it. Then when he can function once again and does it's decimating, like last nite.
Bully, bully for them. That, THAT, that is how team works, anywhere that man dwells.
No, no one is over rating curry. It's not like we didn't see last years finals. Small players are the easiest to shut down, but doing so requires allocating focus. This is a lot like prime Tony Parker. If the spurs had role players that didn't drop their balls in the playoffs the spurs could have won a few more series.
At no time were the warriors losing in this game. The okc series already proved warriors are legit. Whether the sweep or it goes seven, this team will go down as the best since the shaq Lakers.
The kicker? That SOB was Suns property. Yes, for about 10 minutes. Kerr arranged that trade and then Nelson reneged.
After Amy Duncan it was the most important stabbing of a back I've experienced.
So now it's about hypotheticals instead of making the playoffs and winning the last game you play?
Steph had a great Finals last year outside of one game, game 5. He deserved the Finals MVP last year over Iguodala. Still shot 44% from the field and 39% from three despite a 5-for-23 FG, 2-for-15 3P game 5 performance. Shot a combined 48% from the field, 46% from three in the other 5 games. Game 5 really was the only game he had a bad shooting game, albeit a horrifically bad shooting game. Still put up assists, rebounds, and steals. 26, 6, and 5 isn't getting shut down.
Iguodala had a great Finals too. Steph deserved the FMVP last year.
Everyone on the team was getting destroyed by LeBron besides Iggy who held him to 39% shooting meanwhile Curry got cooked by Delly in a Gm 3 loss.
Considering LeBron was a one man wrecking crew, slowing him down in pretty significant.
Yeah Delladova had a good offensive game in game 3. Curry still had a better one. If you let a scrub like Delladova drop 20 on you, you better make up for it on the other end. Steph did his share offensively. Draymond and Harrison Barnes shot 2-for-18 that game. Barnes went scoreless. In a 5 point game, put more blame on them than the guy who dropped 27, 6, and 6.Everyone on the team was getting destroyed by LeBron besides Iggy who held him to 39% shooting meanwhile Curry got cooked by Delly in a Gm 3 loss.
Considering LeBron was a one man wrecking crew, slowing him down in pretty significant.
I said Iguodala had a great Finals. He still didn't earn the Finals MVP. Him winning it would have been akin to Robert Horry winning the 2005 Finals MVP over Duncan (actually Manu probably deserved it the most over either). Horry was probably the biggest difference in that series. But he was still a role player. He still didn't put up the overall production Duncan did. But you could argue he was the difference and the most valuable player of that Finals.
I swear Livingston is automatic from the midrange near the key.. Mofo don't miss
He's getting an undisturbed look at the cylinder. Can you imagine it?
It wasn't like Sheed was a one man wrecking crew & Horry slowed him down.
Despite having only the 8th highest USG%, Iggy was 2nd in points, 2nd in total rebounds, 2nd in three pointers made, 3rd in assists/steals & had the best TS% on the team. He also had the best ORtg on the team & the best DRtg among the wing defenders. He was more like Manu than Horry.
...except when Waiters was bodying him up & not letting him get to his spots.
Horry didn't just have game 5. He was huge in game 7 as well, the deciding game, when Duncan was putting up a Kobeesque 10-for-27 from the field. Horry helped right the offense in the first quarter and helped seal the game with some huge rebounds and free throws in the 4th quarter. Horry didn't have great overall production, but he was still one of the biggest differences in the series.It wasn't like Sheed was a one man wrecking crew & Horry slowed him down.
Despite having only the 8th highest USG%, Iggy was 2nd in points, 2nd in total rebounds, 2nd in three pointers made, 3rd in assists/steals & had the best TS% on the team. He also had the best ORtg on the team & the best DRtg among the wing defenders. He was more like Manu than Horry.
I wasn't looking at ranks. Iggy may have been second in scoring, but he was bunched up with Klay and Draymond, all well behind Steph's scoring output.
For that Finals, scoring for Golden State:
Steph 26 PPG
Iguodala 16.3 PPG
Klay 15.8 PPG
Draymond 13 PPG
So you can say he was second in points, but when the first is so far out ahead, it means much less.
Similarly for the 2005 Finals, Duncan averaged 20.6 PPG and Horry 10.6 PPG.
Both Iguodala and Horry are/were role players, secondary players, complementary players. Call them supersubs. Call them among the best 6th men. They're still role players.
And all of those ranks only further support the notion that Curry should have been Finals MVP. Who was first in points? Curry, First in assists? Curry, Oh, first in steals as well? Curry. And the rebounding difference (35 for Iguodala, 31 for Curry) wasn't much of a difference.
Iguodala was awarded the FMVP because his albeit great production was unexpected and Curry had one bad game. Still doesn't make sense to me.
Warriors would already be fishing if not for Curry.
It doesn't really matter. He's going to have to play decoy this series like he's always had to these past two years. Curry and Thompson are there to spread the floor consequential shooting. The consequence being a high percentage three wide ope for the leagues best two shooters. If it loses him a finals MVP, so be it. Someone on GOlden State will get it and he'll get a le to add to his second MVP.
And yeah, he should have won finals MVP last year.
Curry was going up against Delly, Iggy was going up against Bron, Tim was going against the Big Ben, Horry was going up against Sheed/McDyess.
Iggy matched Curry in the closeout game & Tim took over in the 2nd half, which was what sealed the deal.
Last edited by Kawhitstorm; 06-03-2016 at 04:22 PM.
Duncan went 6-for-18 in the 2nd half, and down the stretch he didn't seal the game. Duncan scored 17 points on 18 shots. He took 18 shots! 33% from the field for a big man. Took over in the 2nd half? Took over all the shot attempts. He also had four turnovers by himself in the 2nd half alone. Took over in the 2nd half? Duncan deserved the FMVP over Horry because of the overall production throughout the series. But Horry was a major difference maker in games 5 and 7... as a ROLE PLAYER.Curry was going up against Delly, Iggy was going up against Bron, Tim was going against the Big Ben, Horry was going up against Sheed/McDyess.
Iggy matched Curry in the closeout game & Tim took over in the 2nd half, which was what sealed the deal.
Horry and Iguodala share the same type of defensive attention in that guys like Duncan and Curry get all the defensive focus from the other team. And that's why role players can have some big scoring nights. My point about Horry remains the same. He was probably the difference in the series. But I still DO NOT give him the FMVP over Duncan or Ginobili because he's a role player whose overall Finals series production still paled in comparison. Same way I feel about Iguodala. He was great. And his defense was awesome. And his unexpected production offensively was a major difference in the series last year. I still don't give him the FMVP over Curry. Being the second leading scorer for the Warriors last year, the difference wasn't 1-2 points like it was between Duncan and Ginobili in 2005. There's a 10 point difference in scoring between Curry and Iguodala. That's significant. Significant enough that you can't give it to Iguodala. Curry 26, 5, and 6. Iguodala 16, 6, and 4. It's not like Iguodala was putting up 16, 10, 10 to make up for the scoring difference. The other numbers pretty much cancel each other out. But the scoring difference alone gives Curry the FMVP for me.
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