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It depends what team he was on. But Yes, getting to six finals when the best player in your way is John Wall... Not Impressive.
Just curious what people think about this:
We all know that LeBron has been to 6 straight NBA Finals. Not trying to take anything away from him.
But let's face it, LeBron's roads to the finals have been quite easy.
Guys like Durant, WestBrook, Chris Paul, Dirk and even Tim have had to go through really tough compe ion to get there. Every year, it is a serious tussle to even make the playoffs in the West. I don't know if teams like the Raptors or the Hawks or even the Heat could make the NBA playoffs in the West.
I have the feeling that Warriors vs Thunders was the NBA Finals. Cavs look overwhelmed ... with all their "stars" healthy.
It depends what team he was on. But Yes, getting to six finals when the best player in your way is John Wall... Not Impressive.
Lebron's Heat teams routinely destroyed the West, IIRC..
He wouldn't have as many Finals appearances, but that would actually work in his favor, since it would eliminate the illogical "Finals record" argument..
Cleveland is a lottery team without James.
A lottery team with the highest payroll in the League?
Kyrie Irving is overrated AF; Kevin Love is overrated AF. Remind me again how many total playoff appearances each had before Lebron entered the picture. The rest of the roster is a collection of overpaid scrubs.
Oh, yeah, Tyron Lue is getting exposed for the overrated as AF coach that he is.
Could they make the playoffs, if they were in the West?
Not without Lebron.
Basically: Nobody would be counting Finals appearances, just rings ala Hakeem.
Heat beat two LEGIT teams in the Finals:
OKC/Spurs were the best team in the West b/w 2011-2014 & the Heat beat both of them in the Finals. It also goes both ways since the 2008 Cavs could have beaten the Lakers if it wasn't for the Celtics.
People also forget that Bosh missed a bunch of games during the 2012 postseason which was why the Pacers/Celtics took 'em to 7 games.
Could they make the playoffs in the West WITH LeBron? Could they be a top 4 seed in the West with LeBron?
Right now, I have a hard time seeing how any of LeBron NBA Finals team could have won 2 playoff series in the West.
The Only NBA Championship LeBron won convincingly was against the Thunders.
It took a miracle shot by Ray Allen to win the first one against the Spurs.
lol lebron hand picked those guys even when he was in miami gilbert was calling him asking who he wanted when he returned.
Lebron's Heat teams had a dominant record vs. the West from 2011-2014..also, the top of the West was pretty weak in those years outside of the Spurs and Thunder and 2011 Mavs..
This year, the 5 to 8 seeds in the West wouldn't have made the playoffs in the East..the top half of the West is significantly better than the East, but the bottom half has transitioned for the East..
Youre saying the Hornets would beat the Mavs.
Yes, easily..
It's dependent on match ups but, they were easily a top 4 team in the league this year and they would have p'wned the Spurs in a series as well because the Spurs were kinda overrated AF. They probably could have given the Thunder a run for their money too. Last years, they could have gone toe to toe with most Western Conference teams but, they were bogged down by injuries during the playoffs. However, they were still a Lebron made FG away from going up 3-0 on the Warriors.
Lebron doesn't make 6 straight finals playing in the West but his team would be a serious contender year in and year out.
Except it took two bone headed turnovers by LeBron to let the Spurs back into the game & a miraculous step-back 3 by Porker to tie the game. Let's not forget Porker making a shot from his knees to win Gm 1.
At the end of the day, Gm 7 happened & LeBron had an epic game. OKC blowing Gm 6 in WCF was was worse than the Spurs since they actually controlled the game before their meltdown.
I'd say half of what he has.
Zero, tbh. Probably wouldn't have home court advantage in the playoffs for half his career
Assuming all his teams played in the West, he probably has 1 Final and 1 championship.
9 of the top 10 players in the league the past 5 years have been in the West, so he would struggle.
lmao chris paul
I'd say 2 Finals appearances with a 2-0 record.
He beat a great, great Pistons team by himself with a supporting cast that Kobe couldn't make the playoffs with. Also, the series isn't over yet.
I don't know how many, but it would have gotten pretty hard for him to get up there.
Have to consider not only the strength of the teams, but the match ups.
I'd think he would have lost several playoff series just by running into unfavorable match ups.
Also, winning series with injured players in the roster would have been harder too.
He has made 6 finals appearances by teaming up with 2 more stars/superstars, having big influence in team decisions, and playing in the weakest conference. Can't be much more favorable for a superstar.
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