Why aren't we having a National conversation about Leftist violence?

[Quetzal-X]

This one is 16 minutes with a lot of new footage

You z see how Jacob ran down Esau at 4:30 with that superior burst of takedown speed?


2 Esdras 6:9

“For Esau is the end of the world, and Jacob is the beginning of it that followeth.”

[boutons_deux]

TSA's sicko gun fellating, racist, xenophobic, LGBTQ hatin' fellow-travellers.

Right-Wing Terrorists Are Killing More Americans Than Jihadists Are

http://thinkprogress.org/world/2015/...ic-terrorists/


The Growing Right-Wing Terror Threat

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/16/op...or-threat.html


Homegrown Extremists Far Right Wing Attacks

Total number of people killed:48

Plot name	Persons killed
2015 Colorado Planned Parenthood Shooting	3
2015 Charleston Church Shooting	9
2014 Las Vegas Police Ambush	3
2014 Kansas Jewish Center Shooting	3
2014 Blooming Grove Police Shooting	1
2012 Tri-State Killing Spree	4
2012 St. John's Parish Police Ambush	2
2012 Sikh Temple Shooting	6
2011 FEAR Militia	3
2010 Carlisle, PA Murder	1
2010 Austin, TX Plane Attack	1
2009 Pittsburgh Police Shootings	3
2009 Holocaust Museum Shooting	1
2009 George Tiller Assassination	1
2009 Flores Murders, Pima County, AZ	2
2009 Brockton, MA Murders	2
2008 Knoxville, TN Church Shooting	2
2004 Tulsa OK, Bank Robbery	1

... TSA freaks out about, ridiculous lefty political dissent and/or violence, which is promoted, congratulated by which non-Repug presidential wannabe?

by which leading Dems?

[rmt]

Good thing this stuff wasn't going on when I went to the Trump rally here. I went alone while hubby took kids to church.

[TheSanityAnnex]

TSA's sicko gun fellating, racist, xenophobic, LGBTQ hatin' fellow-travellers.

Right-Wing Terrorists Are Killing More Americans Than Jihadists Are

http://thinkprogress.org/world/2015/...ic-terrorists/


The Growing Right-Wing Terror Threat

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/16/op...or-threat.html


Homegrown Extremists Far Right Wing Attacks

Total number of people killed:48

Plot name	Persons killed
2015 Colorado Planned Parenthood Shooting	3
2015 Charleston Church Shooting	9
2014 Las Vegas Police Ambush	3
2014 Kansas Jewish Center Shooting	3
2014 Blooming Grove Police Shooting	1
2012 Tri-State Killing Spree	4
2012 St. John's Parish Police Ambush	2
2012 Sikh Temple Shooting	6
2011 FEAR Militia	3
2010 Carlisle, PA Murder	1
2010 Austin, TX Plane Attack	1
2009 Pittsburgh Police Shootings	3
2009 Holocaust Museum Shooting	1
2009 George Tiller Assassination	1
2009 Flores Murders, Pima County, AZ	2
2009 Brockton, MA Murders	2
2008 Knoxville, TN Church Shooting	2
2004 Tulsa OK, Bank Robbery	1

... TSA freaks out about, ridiculous lefty political dissent and/or violence, which is promoted, congratulated by which non-Repug presidential wannabe?

by which leading Dems?

Do you label gang killings left wing since the overwhelming majority of them are Democrats?

[pgardn]

TSA's sicko gun fellating, racist, xenophobic, LGBTQ hatin' fellow-travellers.

Right-Wing Terrorists Are Killing More Americans Than Jihadists Are

http://thinkprogress.org/world/2015/...ic-terrorists/


The Growing Right-Wing Terror Threat

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/16/op...or-threat.html


Homegrown Extremists Far Right Wing Attacks

Total number of people killed:48

Plot name	Persons killed
2015 Colorado Planned Parenthood Shooting	3
2015 Charleston Church Shooting	9
2014 Las Vegas Police Ambush	3
2014 Kansas Jewish Center Shooting	3
2014 Blooming Grove Police Shooting	1
2012 Tri-State Killing Spree	4
2012 St. John's Parish Police Ambush	2
2012 Sikh Temple Shooting	6
2011 FEAR Militia	3
2010 Carlisle, PA Murder	1
2010 Austin, TX Plane Attack	1
2009 Pittsburgh Police Shootings	3
2009 Holocaust Museum Shooting	1
2009 George Tiller Assassination	1
2009 Flores Murders, Pima County, AZ	2
2009 Brockton, MA Murders	2
2008 Knoxville, TN Church Shooting	2
2004 Tulsa OK, Bank Robbery	1

... TSA freaks out about, ridiculous lefty political dissent and/or violence, which is promoted, congratulated by which non-Repug presidential wannabe?

by which leading Dems?

You reply with this boots?

Just denounce the punks trying to make trouble taking cheap shots at people from behind.
Then go on about the subject above in another section.
You saw the video, denounce the punks as cowards. You think these cowards are going to vote for Bernie?


I can't stand Trump, but no excuses or misdirect necessary for this behavior.
You are as chicken as they are with your misdirect.

[boutons_deux]

Do you label gang killings left wing since the overwhelming majority of them are Democrats?

gang killings aren't are political terrorism, dumb . violent gang members vote?

[boutons_deux]

You reply with this boots?

Just denounce the punks trying to make trouble taking cheap shots at people from behind.
Then go on about the subject above in another section.
You saw the video, denounce the punks as cowards. You think these cowards are going to vote for Bernie?


I can't stand Trump, but no excuses or misdirect necessary for this behavior.
You are as chicken as they are with your misdirect.

That's total of people KILLED by rightwingnuts.

How many dead people from lefties over the same period?

your game and your is pitifully weak.

[SpursforSix]

That's total of people KILLED by rightwingnuts.

How many dead people from lefties over the same period?

your game and your is pitifully weak.

How many humans has Kim Jong Un murdered?

[boutons_deux]

How many humans has Kim Jong Un murdered?

Is he American? Is he a lefty?

goddam, you rightwingnuts got some really weak

[SpursforSix]

Is he American? Is he a lefty?

goddam, you rightwingnuts got some really weak

How many? I'm waiting.

[TheSanityAnnex]

TSA's sicko gun fellating, racist, xenophobic, LGBTQ hatin' fellow-travellers.

Right-Wing Terrorists Are Killing More Americans Than Jihadists Are

http://thinkprogress.org/world/2015/...ic-terrorists/


The Growing Right-Wing Terror Threat

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/16/op...or-threat.html


Homegrown Extremists Far Right Wing Attacks

Total number of people killed:48

Plot name	Persons killed
2015 Colorado Planned Parenthood Shooting	3
2015 Charleston Church Shooting	9
2014 Las Vegas Police Ambush	3
2014 Kansas Jewish Center Shooting	3
2014 Blooming Grove Police Shooting	1
2012 Tri-State Killing Spree	4
2012 St. John's Parish Police Ambush	2
2012 Sikh Temple Shooting	6
2011 FEAR Militia	3
2010 Carlisle, PA Murder	1
2010 Austin, TX Plane Attack	1
2009 Pittsburgh Police Shootings	3
2009 Holocaust Museum Shooting	1
2009 George Tiller Assassination	1
2009 Flores Murders, Pima County, AZ	2
2009 Brockton, MA Murders	2
2008 Knoxville, TN Church Shooting	2
2004 Tulsa OK, Bank Robbery	1

... TSA freaks out about, ridiculous lefty political dissent and/or violence, which is promoted, congratulated by which non-Repug presidential wannabe?

by which leading Dems?

Your list needs some revisions

Neo-nazi James von Brunn, the US Holocaust Museum shooter, June 2009, has been labelled a "right-wing" terrorist, and no doubt many vaguely think of him as a "Christian" terrorist.

• In fact, he could just as easily be called a "left-wing" terrorist: He hated Israel, opposed the Iraq War, thought 9/11 was an inside job, hated Fox News, hated neo-cons, hated Bush and McCain, and finally he hated Christianity, and said he was a socialist (the Nazis were collectivists).
• He referred to "the insane teachings of Jesus", and said the gospels are: "stuffed with lies, miracles, guilt trips, betrayal, virgin birth, eternal damnation, salvation - a scenario appealing to the supers ious, vulnerable, ignorant yearning sheep - he named his hoax "Christianity." ... "Christianity" destroyed Roman Civilization." So he is not a Christian terrorist.

Andrew Joseph Stack, the perpetrator of the Austin tax office suicide attack in Feb 2010, has been labelled a "right-wing" terrorist.

• But he is a strange sort of "right-winger", one who hates George W. Bush, capitalism, the Catholic church, and drug and insurance companies.
• "left-wing bogeymen all" as James Taranto notes.

John Patrick Bedell, the perpetrator of the Pentagon shooting in Mar 2010, has been labelled a "right-wing" terrorist.

• But he was a strange sort of "right-winger", one who was a registered Democrat, strongly opposed the Gulf War, hated Bush, believed Bush carried out 9/11, and called the Iraq War "Satanic".

Roger Stockham arrested in Jan 2011 for threatening a Detroit mosque.

• But, far from being a Tea Party member, he's leftist / Islamic / mentally ill.
• He is a convert to Islam, and said in the threats that he was: "a local Muslim terrorist on a roll." A witness says that he: "called himself a mujahedeen".
• In fact, this seems to be a case of a Sunni threatening a Shia mosque. And more. Not quite the Tea Party narrative, then.
• Acts 17 Apologetics point out that some people rushed to call him a "Christian" terrorist, and the local Police Chief even said: "He picked Dearborn as a stop because of the huge Arab and Muslim population." When in fact he picked a Shia Muslim mosque because he was a Sunni Muslim.
• In a similar phenomenon to the Tucson blood libel against Sarah Palin, people even accused Acts 17 Apologetics of inciting the attack! They have a lovely response: "It seems that our hate speech (i.e. drawing attention to disturbing facts about Islam, while maintaining our love for Muslims) somehow caused the Sunni-Shia split. Perhaps Jem believes that Nabeel and I constructed an Acts 17 time machine, travelled back to 632 and caused division in the Muslim community right after Muhammad died. Perhaps I went to Abu Bakr and said, "Hey! You should be leader!" Then Nabeel went to Ali and said, "You're better than Abu Bakr!" Fourteen centuries later, the division we caused led a Sunni convert to attack a mosque. Acts 17 must be even craftier than we thought!"

The Washington Navy Yard shooting of Sept 2013 was not blamed on the right, but it was fascinating that the shooter turned out to be an Obama supporter.

• A friend said about him: "He was more of a liberal type; he wasn't happy with the former [Bush] administration. He was more happy with this [the Obama] administration -- as far as presidential administrations."
• Of course, primarily he was mentally ill.
• But don't you think that if he was a Tea Party supporter, all would have broken loose?
• It also emerged that the shooter created a webpage with the name "Mohammed Salem", though there is no evidence he was Muslim.

The Las Vegas shooters in June 2014 were labelled as "right-wing".

• However, it turned out they were supporters of the left-wing "Occupy" movement.

Max Fisher gives an account of a horrific anti-Muslim crime in Dec 2014: "In December, a man in Kansas City wrote on his SUV that the Koran was a "disease worse than Ebola," then drove it into a 15-year-old Muslim boy in front of a local mosque, severing his legs and killing him."

• However, he omits the fact that the killer was a black African Somali Christian immigrant.
• Certainly not "right-wing" terrorism in any traditional sense.

The Chapel Hill shooting in Feb 2015 was called a right-wing anti-Muslim hate crime.

• However, it emerged that the shooter was a left-wing atheist who hated the GOP and was a fan of the Southern Poverty Law Center.

Max Fisher portrays the murder of Ahmed Al-Jumaili in Texas in Mar 2015 as an anti-Muslim hate crime.

• However, it seems the killer was a gangsta black teenager.

[TheSanityAnnex]

No one should justify violence. But to try to call out one side without stating the obvious facts of violence at trump rallies committed by scared little white people who are only brave in crowds like fellow inbreds (see op, sucker, re and the rest) has not only been far more prevalent but actually encouraged by the assumed new leader of the repub party is cowardly.

Congratulations on finally actually trying to contribute to the topic. Please back your claim that the violence has been far more prevalent by Trump supporters...best of luck!

[TheSanityAnnex]

False equivalence, typical rightwingnut bull of "can't defend our right wing assholes, so let's pull down the non-rightwingers"

The irony

TSA's sicko gun fellating, racist, xenophobic, LGBTQ hatin' fellow-travellers.

Right-Wing Terrorists Are Killing More Americans Than Jihadists Are

http://thinkprogress.org/world/2015/...ic-terrorists/


The Growing Right-Wing Terror Threat

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/16/op...or-threat.html


Homegrown Extremists Far Right Wing Attacks

Total number of people killed:48

Plot name	Persons killed
2015 Colorado Planned Parenthood Shooting	3
2015 Charleston Church Shooting	9
2014 Las Vegas Police Ambush	3
2014 Kansas Jewish Center Shooting	3
2014 Blooming Grove Police Shooting	1
2012 Tri-State Killing Spree	4
2012 St. John's Parish Police Ambush	2
2012 Sikh Temple Shooting	6
2011 FEAR Militia	3
2010 Carlisle, PA Murder	1
2010 Austin, TX Plane Attack	1
2009 Pittsburgh Police Shootings	3
2009 Holocaust Museum Shooting	1
2009 George Tiller Assassination	1
2009 Flores Murders, Pima County, AZ	2
2009 Brockton, MA Murders	2
2008 Knoxville, TN Church Shooting	2
2004 Tulsa OK, Bank Robbery	1

... TSA freaks out about, ridiculous lefty political dissent and/or violence, which is promoted, congratulated by which non-Repug presidential wannabe?

by which leading Dems?

[Mitch]

Botox Deuce, being a moron like usual.

[CosmicCowboy]

Lol. You are dedicated. Clinging to the brain that does your thinking.

I have no need to get drug into the mud where you exist out of fear. Incendiary rhetoric by your masters has contributed to all of these recorded incididents. But you choose to try to blur the argument about what pieces of you sucker re etc are for being so dependent on others to think.

It's like you're running the standard "right" playbook, willfully ignore, distract, and deflect real life so the stupidest of the stupid lap it up like re ed hogs at the inbred trough. Seriously kill yourselves.

In other words, you can't back it up and are too big of a pussy to admit it.

We get it.

Tired ass Shtick.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Lol. You are dedicated. Clinging to the brain that does your thinking.

I have no need to get drug into the mud where you exist out of fear. Incendiary rhetoric by your masters has contributed to all of these recorded incididents. But you choose to try to blur the argument about what pieces of you sucker re etc are for being so dependent on others to think.

It's like you're running the standard "right" playbook, willfully ignore, distract, and deflect real life so the stupidest of the stupid lap it up like re ed hogs at the inbred trough. Seriously kill yourselves.

All your tough talk and you are going to scamper away like a little ? You claimed that violence at Trump rallies, by Trump supporters was far more prevalent. Back your claim big guy.



"But to try to call out one side without stating the obvious facts of violence at trump rallies committed by scared little white people who are only brave in crowds like fellow inbreds (see op, sucker, re and the rest) has not only been far more prevalent but actually encouraged by the assumed new leader of the repub party is cowardly."

[Quetzal-X]

As long as the racist portion of honkeys keep swillin' n' pillin' its good all aroun for humanity tbqfh

[DarrinS]

As long as the racist portion of honkeys keep swillin' n' pillin' its good all aroun for humanity tbqfh

A lot of non-white people getting sucker punched in that video, tbqfh

[pgardn]

That's total of people KILLED by rightwingnuts.

How many dead people from lefties over the same period?

your game and your is pitifully weak.

Read the le of the thread.
You deny it by misdirection.

[boutons_deux]

Read the le of the thread.
You deny it by misdirection.

I don't deny anything. Lefties haven't murdered nearly as many, any?, in political violence as you rightwingnut jobs, Oath Keepers, sovereign citizens, gun fellators, etc have.

TSA trying to trash the left as violent? G M A F B and G F Y

[pgardn]

[QUOTE=Bonnerific;8615331]

You reply with this boots?

Just denounce the punks trying to make trouble taking cheap shots at people from behind.
Then go on about the subject above in another section.
You saw the video, denounce the punks as cowards. You think these cowards are going to vote for Bernie?


I can't stand Trump, but no excuses or misdirect necessary for this behavior.
You are as chicken as they are with your misdirect.[/QUOTE


So what is the difference in bouton running his false equivalence with dozens of real and verifiable examples, and got piece of op trying to deflect and rationalize all of the behaviors from the "right" by using far smaller and isolated incidence.

No one should justify violence. But to try to call out one side without stating the obvious facts of violence at trump rallies committed by scared little white people who are only brave in crowds like fellow inbreds (see op, sucker, re and the rest) has not only been far more prevalent but actually encouraged by the assumed new leader of the repub party is cowardly.

Because these Fckn punk ass kids are doing exactly what they profess to be above, and so does Boots.

You read the thread le. Own the behavior MENTIONED. Don't screw it up. Fck the hands up don't shoot crap. That's not what happened. Yes, a clear case of outrageous Police behavior was exposed. But don't dare make use of a disingenuous statement to further a just cause. Just don't Fckn link them.

You got it?
Good.

This is exactly the kind of behavior that gets the orange faced nut elected.

[pgardn]

I don't deny anything. Lefties haven't murdered nearly as many, any?, in political violence as you rightwingnut jobs, Oath Keepers, sovereign citizens, gun fellators, etc have.

TSA trying to trash the left as violent? G M A F B and G F Y

You referring to me as a right wing nut furthers the notion that you have completely fallen off the left side of the universe. Of course TSA is going to hunt down what might be less frequent examples. OWN IT, and then move on with your own thread.

[pgardn]

[QUOTE=Bonnerific;8615858]

whose defending the actions of these people? I don't see anyone telling them to go ahead because they will pay their bail.

The protesters who are committing violent acts deserve all the punishment they get. But to disassociate this from the root cause of the behavior is disingenuous at best, and got op desperate to blur any reality or ability to discuss issues at worst.

It's one party that this has happened to. One party embracing racism, sexism, xenophobia. That is what has created this. It is what needs to be called on.

Defending?

Who said this?

I said OWN IT. And then say exactly what I said.
This behavior will get hair elected.

And the root cause for some of these punks is the thrill of the sucker punch. Just own it...

[pgardn]

[QUOTE=Bonnerific;8615892]

did you miss the part where I said the people committing the violent acts deserve to be punished? I don't need to come up with some bull false equivalence examples because I can say these protesters are wrong in committing acts of violence.

but none of the candidates on the dem side are telling these fools that they will pay their bail, or the people being assaulted deserve it. That's only on one side. And that is what has created the environment where this nonsense is occurring.

TSA finds this stuff all the time.

How hard is it to say these people are idiots without going into root causes?
The root cause is most likely punks taking advantage of angry crowd situations. So don't yell and throw to begin with. No excuses. Tired of Fckn excuses. There are idiots right and left.

[DarrinS]

lol

Sorry Liberals, A Violent Response To Trump Is As Logical As Any

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jesse-..._10316186.html