Raymond Green is overrated AF

[kobyz]

LOL people trying to talk about, all of you should bend down just saying his name, he is the boss, never was more boss than him!! most winning mentality and thoughness ever, dominate and kill people twice his size... you can all keep on being jealous!! Legend!!!

[daslicer]

oh boy

First off brah his FG% is at .426 but his TS% is at .543 which is more than reasonnable.
Second do a research about star players winning a ring with this efficiency, you will find a bunch.

Of course OKC is his toughest oppononent, they actually had a real front court to deal with knowing Draymond is a SF playing PF so yeah to play small he is the one struggling playing his non natural spot. You would not want him cauz you don't know wtf you are talking about... He is undersized for playing PF except he is a SF and for a SF he is perfectly fine, then for an undersized dude he is at near 9 rpg and 2 blocks, I'd like to see how many bigs not undersized have this kind of line. To make it worst or better dude also played 1/4th of his PT as a C.

Now don't mention he is the SF, PF, C with the most solid passing game of the league and one of the top defender.

You are a typical bull er who has no clue of what he is talking about. If you would not want him as a Spurs you a blind re .

Look whose talking you have pretty much described yourself in that one sentence. So now he's not a PF but he's an SF playing out of position. If that's the case then they are not many teams in this league that could incorporate him in their system to play the PF position and if he was a full time SF he would be a liability since he shoots horrid percentages. Basically you have just described him as a system player. Of course he would not fit in with the Spurs since he's really an SF in your words considering the Spurs already have an SF in Kawhi. Seriously can you elaborate on how he would fit in the current spurs roster since they don't have great shooters and a great defensive interior big which are two things he needs to be successful. Yes he gets a lot of respect from me for playing center 1/4 of the time when the opposition goes small to match the Warriors just like last night when he matched up with Lebron at the center position.Also TS percentage is ty advance stat that only measures FG attempts and FT attempts but not the misses. Nice try throwing that metric to manipulate the argument. How about defending his awful PER against the thunder which was one of the worst in playoff history.

[UZER]

He also gets to do whatever he wants on the court with no repercussions, i.e. multiple nut shots, multiple flopping high kicks making contact with opponents, blatant taunting, berating officials to their face on most calls.

If any of those was called like it is on any other player in the league, he'd be missing games, so there's that.

[Brazil]

Look whose talking you have pretty much described yourself in that one sentence. So now he's not a PF but he's an SF playing out of position. If that's the case then they are not many teams in this league that could incorporate him in their system to play the PF position and if he was a full time SF he would be a liability since he shoots horrid percentages. Basically you have just described him as a system player. Of course he would not fit in with the Spurs since he's really an SF in your words considering the Spurs already have an SF in Kawhi. Seriously can you elaborate on how he would fit in the current spurs roster since they don't have great shooters and a great defensive interior big which are two things he needs to be successful. Yes he gets a lot of respect from me for playing center 1/4 of the time when the opposition goes small to match the Warriors just like last night when he matched up with Lebron at the center position.Also TS percentage is ty advance stat that only measures FG attempts and FT attempts but not the misses. Nice try throwing that metric to manipulate the argument. How about defending his awful PER against the thunder which was one of the worst in playoff history.

last reply because you are such a re it's getting boring

Of course he's a SF playing out of position. Your argument about him being a liability if he had to play SF is horrible since he had two full seasons playing mostly SF and had better shooting efficiency.
Your he would not fit is laughable, so I guess you would not want Durant for the same reason ?
Then I don't what to tell you about your "only measures FG attempts and FT attempts but not the misses" so TS% does not measure misses ? ok
His PER in this PO is highest of his career so far he must have been very good very all other teams

let us proceed

[Brazil]

He also gets to do whatever he wants on the court with no repercussions, i.e. multiple nut shots, multiple flopping high kicks making contact with opponents, blatant taunting, berating officials to their face on most calls.

If any of those was called like it is on any other player in the league, he'd be missing games, so there's that.

sure... when it's a Spur player like Bruce of Jax, people would say he is tough... since he does not play for the Spurs, he is dirty helped by the referees... dat double standard

people complain about LMA being soft but also complain because a player is tough / dirty... not enough class

[daslicer]

last reply because you are such a re it's getting boring

Of course he's a SF playing out of position. Your argument about him being a liability if he had to play SF is horrible since he had two full seasons playing mostly SF and had better shooting efficiency.
Your he would not fit is laughable, so I guess you would not want Durant for the same reason ?
Then I don't what to tell you about your "only measures FG attempts and FT attempts but not the misses" so TS% does not measure misses ? ok
His PER in this PO is highest of his career so far he must have been very good very all other teams

let us proceed

Feeling is mutual talking to you is like talking to a mentally handicapped kid it gets old after a while. Durant doesn't have anything to do with this argument basically you deflected by throwing his name in randomly. You couldn't elaborate on how Draymond would fit in the spurs system which proves my point you are not an intelligent person. Pretty disappointing I was expecting more out of you since I gave you my reasoning but you had no counters. You had the response of a first grader "I'm right I'm right you are wrong stupid.' You in a nuts when Draymond gets outplayed "It doesn't count since he's not really a PF." and when he plays well "Draymond is the best PF in the league.' Pretty elementary thinking right there on your part.

[Hoops Czar]

Damn, Brazil going full blown Neymar on these haters.

[r0drig0lac]

He also gets to do whatever he wants on the court with no repercussions, i.e. multiple nut shots, multiple flopping high kicks making contact with opponents, blatant taunting, berating officials to their face on most calls.

If any of those was called like it is on any other player in the league, he'd be missing games, so there's that.

this is true, but he is still a beast

[UZER]

sure... when it's a Spur player like Bruce of Jax, people would say he is tough... since he does not play for the Spurs, he is dirty helped by the referees... dat double standard

people complain about LMA being soft but also complain because a player is tough / dirty... not enough class

The NBA is turning a blind eye to everything Draymond is doing just so he won't be suspended these playoffs. That has nothing to do with Bowen or the Spurs being soft.

[GSH]

Feeling is mutual talking to you is like talking to a mentally handicapped kid it gets old after a while. Durant doesn't have anything to do with this argument basically you deflected by throwing his name in randomly. yada,yada,yada.

Just go ahead and say, "I know you are, but what am I?" Get it out of the way. You'll feel better.


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[daslicer]

Just go ahead and say, "I know you are, but what am I?" Get it out of the way. You'll feel better.


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Wow what a weird emotional response from someone who wasn't involved in this argument. I didn't know you were his personal hype man. Not surprised though since ST has hundreds of hype men who can't voice out their opinions directly so they have to piggyback off of the opinions of a few. In the future don't be too scared to voice out your opinion directly. Until you can do that you are trash.

[Snaq O'Meal]

He also gets to do whatever he wants on the court with no repercussions, i.e. multiple nut shots, multiple flopping high kicks making contact with opponents, blatant taunting, berating officials to their face on most calls.

If any of those was called like it is on any other player in the league, he'd be missing games, so there's that.

Well said.

[kobyz]

He also gets to do whatever he wants on the court with no repercussions, i.e. multiple nut shots, multiple flopping high kicks making contact with opponents, blatant taunting, berating officials to their face on most calls.

If any of those was called like it is on any other player in the league, he'd be missing games, so there's that.

Give him props for being that bright knowing how to be dirty in a manner that he can get away with it!!! Thoughness!

[OrEmuN]

Give him props for being that bright knowing how to be dirty in a manner that he can get away with it!!! Thoughness!

It's a by-product of being a GSW.
Once he leaves GSW, the referee will not give him the same immunity

[UZER]

Give him props for being that bright knowing how to be dirty in a manner that he can get away with it!!! Thoughness!

See that's the thing. He's not doing anything smart, or cunning. He's just being a goon out there in plain sight and they just aren't calling anything because the front of his jersey says GS and he's Stephs teammate.

[kobyz]

See that's the thing. He's not doing anything smart, or cunning. He's just being a goon out there in plain sight and they just aren't calling anything because the front of his jersey says GS and he's Stephs teammate.

I think he is being clever knowing how to hurt people and getting into heads, challenge the limits of when you got punish for... You are all being jealous! Dray is the boss!

[Brazil]

The NBA is turning a blind eye to everything Draymond is doing just so he won't be suspended these playoffs. That has nothing to do with Bowen or the Spurs being soft.

if Dray was a Spurs would you do the same kind of comments ? if you have a bit of honesty you would say no

I did not see any Spurs fans whinning about Horry being dirty with small consequences other than 1 game suspension with Diaw and Stoud paying the price too. I also never seen a Spurs fan calling out NBA for turning a blind eye on Bruce hitting Nash in the balls... but Dray is a dirty s bag to do the same and he is protected by the NBA because he is playing with Curry bull .

Bowen is the player with probably the most hit the balls highlights in NBA history and considered by non Spurs fans one the dirtiest player ever. but Bowen is classy, Dray is a s bag

Spurs fans are one of the worst hypocretical fanbase ever...

[DrunkTXLabrat]

somebody bump this thread when Raymond has lame crying like Obama, after the Warriors/Spurs series... that is, if the Spurs don't drop to OKC or Minny first.

this

[DrunkTXLabrat]

no, but i wouldn't call them superstars either. i think there is a line between superstars like Duncan, Lebron, Shaq, Kobe, Curry and winners like Tony/Manu, Wade, Pau, maybe Draymond.

[kobyz]

People here are so salty because in terms of toughness and mentality Draymond = Garnett meets Rodman, while their boy Kiwi = Keith Van Horn...

[UZER]

if Dray was a Spurs would you do the same kind of comments ? if you have a bit of honesty you would say no

I did not see any Spurs fans whinning about Horry being dirty with small consequences other than 1 game suspension with Diaw and Stoud paying the price too. I also never seen a Spurs fan calling out NBA for turning a blind eye on Bruce hitting Nash in the balls... but Dray is a dirty s bag to do the same and he is protected by the NBA because he is playing with Curry bull .

Bowen is the player with probably the most hit the balls highlights in NBA history and considered by non Spurs fans one the dirtiest player ever. but Bowen is classy, Dray is a s bag

Spurs fans are one of the worst hypocretical fanbase ever...

In the heat of the moment, of course I about plays because that's what's fans do. But my real issue is not Draymond toughness or being "dirty". Stop saying it is. Its the fact that he's not being disciplined like other players have been. Bowen was suspended. Horry was suspended. Too many guys have been suspended for way less than what green has done up to this point. There are always consequences for playing the way he does, except when he's the one doing them.

[NameLess Scrub]

In the heat of the moment, of course I about plays because that's what's fans do. But my real issue is not Draymond toughness or being "dirty". Stop saying it is. Its the fact that he's not being disciplined like other players have been. Bowen was suspended. Horry was suspended. Too many guys have been suspended for way less than what green has done up to this point. There are always consequences for playing the way he does, except when he's the one doing them.

At this point they might be trolling you. Everything you've said it's pretty evident.

Bowen getting support from Spurs fans doesn't have anything to do with this. That besides what you said about getting disciplined. As I've said before, I don't like what Bowen did.

I think people underestimate what different reffing would do to a guy like that. What he would do if he was called for techs and fouls for his antics, slaps, moving screens etc? I think it would even impact him mentally as he would have to approach the game differently.

Bring him to the Spurs and he would hardly get away with that stuff.

[Brazil]

In the heat of the moment, of course I about plays because that's what's fans do. But my real issue is not Draymond toughness or being "dirty". Stop saying it is. Its the fact that he's not being disciplined like other players have been. Bowen was suspended. Horry was suspended. Too many guys have been suspended for way less than what green has done up to this point. There are always consequences for playing the way he does, except when he's the one doing them.

Bowen kicked Nash in the nuts game 3 and has not been suspended for game 4, as Bruce was never suspended to put his feet where a player jumping is supposed to land etc... so besides your bias you have not much to back up your claim.

[lefty]

Raymond Screen ting on Spurmstalk

And Brazil is doing work

[YGWHI]

Bowen kicked Nash in the nuts game 3 and has not been suspended for game 4, as Bruce was never suspended to put his feet where a player jumping is supposed to land etc... so besides your bias you have not much to back up your claim.

To be fair, no one should take about suspensions, calls, referees, in Suns-Spurs 2007 series, after that Tim Donaghy scandal.