OT: Soccer "More and more Americans like watching people kick round balls"

[midnightpulp]

George Mikan was only the best player of an era when EVERYONE in the league was WHITE. (Wilt would have crushed him)



Beer belly+lack of muscle definition+trotting around the base like an 80 year old lady



WTF does height have to do w/ athleticism?

Iverson was 5'11" & used to dominate giants in the PAINT!

Everyone was white in Ruth's era, as well

Ruth wasn't unathetic. I've showed you the picture of his young physique, which was relatively "swole" for the standards of the time.

I cite height in response here to the implication made by povertyball fans that because there's a few good fat players, baseball isn't a real sport. That argument can be easily used against soccer in the form of height. What other ball sport can a 5'4" midget become the greatest? Also, height does equate to athleticism at a certain point. People shorter than 5'6" (a rough estimate) are typically less athletic than those taller. Where are all the 5'5" 100m, Decathlon, high jump, long jump, etc winners?

5'8" seems to be the point where height becomes irrelevant, as there has been 5'8" 100m winners. And a lot of the fastest NFL running backs have been 5'8", 5'9", etc. But I also think there's diminishing athletic returns beyond a height like 6'5".

[Kawhitstorm]

Everyone was white in Ruth's era, as well

Ruth wasn't unathetic. I've showed you the picture of his young physique, which was relatively "swole" for the standards of the time.

For the standards of time? Dude would be considered FAT even by TODAY's "besibol" standards lets alone in the 1930s when 50% of the US population wasn't morbidly obese.

5'8" seems to be the point where height becomes irrelevant, as there has been 5'8" 100m winners. And a lot of the fastest NFL running backs have been 5'8", 5'9", etc. But I also think there's diminishing athletic returns beyond a height like 6'5".

Dumbass, AGILITY is the best asset is Futbol & you need low center of gravity to maximize agility. It similar to punt returns or running backs in the NFL where the GOAT at the position was 5'8" (Barry Sanders). You also have Darren Sproles who at 5'6" hold the NFL record for most all-purpose yards in a season.

[Kawhitstorm]

Midnight has to bust yet another myth now?

Nobel Winners by country of birth:

USA (257)

Germany (61)

https://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_pri...countries.html

Trust me, I've been posting with Euros for a long time, I know all their counterarguments and the counters to them

Yeah, the US military not only stole scientists but "prototypes" from the Nazis. Who do you think got credit for it?

[midnightpulp]

For the standards of time? Dude would be considered FAT even by TODAY's "besibol" standards lets alone in the 1930s when 50% of the US population wasn't morbidly obese.

Where's the massive gut here (or any gut)?



Ruth was wide and thick, but not morbidly obese during his prime.

Dumbass, AGILITY is the best asset is Futbol & you need low center of gravity to maximize agility. It similar to punt returns or running backs in the NFL where the GOAT at the position was 5'8" (Barry Sanders). You also have Darren Sproles who at 5'6" hold the NFL record for most all-purpose yards in a season.

If shortness is all you need, then how come 3 foot midgets aren't the goat running backs and soccer players? Like I said, there's a cutoff point, and that seems to be around 5'5"ish give or take where your legs just become too short and you can't cover ground as effectively. As it stands, only in soccer is where you find 5'4" GOATs

[midnightpulp]

Yeah, the US military not only stole scientists but "prototypes" from the Nazis. Who do you think got credit for it?

The only expertise Nazi scientists really had at the time was rocketry. US Nobel Laureates range from everything to chemistry, medicine, literature, biology, etc.

And speaking of rocketry:

Nevertheless, in 1963, von Braun, reflecting on the history of rocketry, said of Goddard: "His rockets ... may have been rather crude by present-day standards, but they blazed the trail and incorporated many features used in our most modern rockets and space vehicles".[71] He once recalled that "Goddard's experiments in liquid fuel saved us years of work, and enabled us to perfect the V-2 years before it would have been possible."[72] After World War II von Braun reviewed Goddard's patents and believed they contained enough technical information to build a large missile.

Three features developed by Goddard appeared in the V-2: (1) turbopumps were used to inject fuel into the combustion chamber; (2) gyroscopically controlled vanes in the nozzle stabilized the rocket until external vanes in the air could do so; and (3) excess alcohol was fed in around the combustion chamber walls, so that a blanket of evaporating gas protected the engine walls from the combustion heat.

This man predates all Nazi rocket scientists and is considered the father of modern rocketry:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_H._Goddard

Like I said, I know all the counters to Yuropoor (are you one?) arguments

[Kawhitstorm]

Where's the massive gut here (or any gut)?

Ruth was wide and thick, but not morbidly obese during his prime.

1928: Gehrig vs. Babe, Guess who has the Beer Belly?

If shortness is all you need, then how come 3 foot midgets aren't the goat running backs and soccer players?

Dumbass, running backs need to block pass rushers so you can't have a 5'4" dude trying to block a 6'4" 275 pass rusher unless dude is so buff he can't even run. That's the reason they are relegated to being punt returners because they can TOY w/ 6'4" 275 dudes trying to tackle them in the open field:

Like I said, there's a cutoff point, and that seems to be around 5'5"ish give or take where your legs just become too short and you can't cover ground as effectively. As it stands, only in soccer is where you find 5'4" GOATs

Darren Sproles has baby legs & hold the record for all-purpose yards.

[Kawhitstorm]

The only expertise Nazi scientists really had at the time was rocketry. US Nobel Laureates range from everything to chemistry, medicine, literature, biology, etc.

Literature

Only rocketry?

-U-Boat

-Me 262

-Panzers

-StG 44

And speaking of rocketry:

This man predates all Nazi rocket scientists and is considered the father of modern rocketry

The father of modern rocketry DIDN'T actually build & SUCCESSFUL launch a cruise or ballistic missile. (Didn't even in' build a prototype)

[dfens]

You sound mad.

Does the penis envy you have toward your American betters really hurt you that much?

you got absolutely ted on with regards to the thread topic and came back with the weakest vanilla reply possible, like nobel prizes mean anything
can't even troll properly.
us schooled, it's a wonder you can even write tbh.
losing my time debating with an unemployed african .

[midnightpulp]

1928: Gehrig vs. Babe, Guess who has the Beer Belly?





Dumbass, running backs need to block pass rushers so you can't have a 5'4" dude trying to block a 6'4" 275 pass rusher unless dude is so buff he can't even run. That's the reason they are relegated to being punt returners because they can TOY w/ 6'4" 275 dudes trying to tackle them in the open field:





Darren Sproles has baby legs & hold the record for all-purpose yards.

Then where are all the 5'4" punt returners? You won't find any. You also won't find any elite 5'4" sprinters. There's always exceptions, like Sproles, Muggsy Bogues, etc, where a player beats the odds, but it isn't typical. Also, I'm talking about GOATs, and it still remains that the only sub-5'7" goats are in soccer.

Ruth has a pot belly, but he's not fat on the level of Sandoval. Fat also=/=unathletic, again.

[midnightpulp]

Literature

Only rocketry?

-U-Boat

-Me 262

-Panzers

-StG 44



The father of modern rocketry DIDN'T actually build & SUCCESSFUL launch a cruise or ballistic missile. (Didn't even in' build a prototype)

Which "stolen technology" that existed in U-Boats, Panzers, and other German weaponry lead to a US scientist winning a Nobel prize?

I also mentioned Goddard because once I showed you how re edly wrong your claim of US Nobel Laureates being former Nazi scientists was, you immediately shifted, "Those later scientists stole the ideas of Nazis." So I showed you that Nazi scientists stole ideas from American inventors long before it was supposedly the other way around.

Uboats. What, you think the Germans built the first modern submarine? U-Boats were built in 1906. This, on the other hand:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Holland_(SS-1)

Built in 1898 by an Irishman.

Also:

The U-Boat was a redesigned Karp class submarine by Spanish engineer Raimondo Lorenzo d'Equevilley Montjustin working for the German armaments company Krupp.

" Germany was so inherently brilliant they invented everything out of thin air."

Stealing ideas from the Spanish.

[midnightpulp]

you got absolutely ted on with regards to the thread topic and came back with the weakest vanilla reply possible, like nobel prizes mean anything
can't even troll properly.
us schooled, it's a wonder you can even write tbh.
losing my time debating with an unemployed african .

I got so ted on that I proved baseball players are all around better athletically than midget soccer players.

Final nail in the coffin.

Ronald runs a 25m dash in 3.31 seconds, equating to 24.77 feet per second.

Fat Prince Fielder ran the 60 yard dash in 7.17 seconds, equating to 25.1 feet per second.

The most athletic soccer player in the world is slower than the fat baseball player povertyball fans always post to prove baseball players are "unathletic."

ted on, indeed.

[lefty]

I'm surprised midnightpulp is still able to walk tbh

[midnightpulp]

I'm surprised midnightpulp is still able to walk tbh

For real. My legs are tired from walking all over this thread.

[lefty]

For real. My legs are tired from walking all over this thread.

And getting repeatedly pounded without lube

[midnightpulp]

And getting repeatedly pounded without lube

Povertyball fan fantasizing about sodomy.
Per par

[Brazil]

you know a guy lost a debate when he starts with the "third worlder" and "poverty" to try to hurt the feeling of a non US citizen

This stuff is as juvenile and stupid as mother jokes tbh

Murica talking about poverty

[midnightpulp]

you know a guy lost a debate when he starts with the "third worlder" and "poverty" to try to hurt the feeling of a non US citizen

This stuff is as juvenile and stupid as mother jokes tbh

Murica talking about poverty

Povertyball is the troll name for soccer. Don't take it seriously.

And what debate did I lose?

Soccer fans can't prove that soccer players are more all around athletic than baseball players. I've posted a variety of dash times, vertical jump marks, etc, and the response is simply posting a couple of pictures of fat baseball players.

[Killakobe81]

That can't be right. In Argentina we get all our 1st division games live (15 games per week), some of the 2nd division (and even lower divisions). All the Libertadores games, all the Champions League games. Almost all of the Premier league ones, Almost all of the la Liga ones, about half of the Italian, German and French leagues and even some of other countries like Brazil, Uruguay, Chile, Colombia, Portugual and Holland.

I obviously can't tell for sure but I doubt the US broadcasts that much football, tbh. At least not in regular cable.

Al ot of soccer is on mid tier pakages tbh ..when you factor both major spanish networks that broadcast games, Fox, ESPN and NBC sports all show games as well. I see EPL, plenty of Barca, Real MAdrid etc. and I dont have a top tier or extra sports package with directv ...
I like soccer, NHL and MLB but i dont watch any of those games from start to finish.
Only games I watch like that are big match-ups in the NBA/NFL

Worlcup though is entertaining as .

[dfens]

I got so ted on that I proved baseball players are all around better athletically than midget soccer players.

Final nail in the coffin.

Ronald runs a 25m dash in 3.31 seconds, equating to 24.77 feet per second.

Fat Prince Fielder ran the 60 yard dash in 7.17 seconds, equating to 25.1 feet per second.

The most athletic soccer player in the world is slower than the fat baseball player povertyball fans always post to prove baseball players are "unathletic."

ted on, indeed.

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[midnightpulp]

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Damn, you're obsessed with primates, bro (per par for a German. It's why you're letting in all those refugees ).

How many tears did you shed when they had to kill that gorilla?

[webshad]

Wtf are these? VHS tapes?

Back when they used to take steroids. Now they just look like ROTC nerds like that lil Bryce Harper

hahahahahah hahahahaahahah VHS looool

[webshad]

WTF loooooooooooooooooool

hahahahaa

You guys are killing me!

[Clipper Nation]

I got so ted on that I proved baseball players are all around better athletically than midget soccer players.

Final nail in the coffin.

Ronald runs a 25m dash in 3.31 seconds, equating to 24.77 feet per second.

Fat Prince Fielder ran the 60 yard dash in 7.17 seconds, equating to 25.1 feet per second.

The most athletic soccer player in the world is slower than the fat baseball player povertyball fans always post to prove baseball players are "unathletic."

ted on, indeed.

And these gots have the nerve to mock a real sport like baseball... ya gotta believe me!

[Brazil]

Povertyball is the troll name for soccer. Don't take it seriously.

And what debate did I lose?

Soccer fans can't prove that soccer players are more all around athletic than baseball players. I've posted a variety of dash times, vertical jump marks, etc, and the response is simply posting a couple of pictures of fat baseball players.

I'm not taking it seriously tbh... I just find funny in 2016, some continue to be full of themselves with outdated, dumb jokes in the line of third world countries and poor people. I, rightly so, compare that to mom's jokes. When you go that way in most of the case you don't have much intelligent takes.

I learn to respect / understand americans who like their baseball or football even though I find it boring and lame as most of the time, I even started to watch football. If then your main argument is soccer is because of 0/0 it means you stay on surface and don't try to understand why it is so popular in the world and explanations in the likes of "povertyball", "cheap sport"... are quite short

[lefty]

you know a guy lost a debate when he starts with the "third worlder" and "poverty" to try to hurt the feeling of a non US citizen

This stuff is as juvenile and stupid as mother jokes tbh

Murica talking about poverty