The Kang
The best all around player in the world for the last 5 plus years is leading the finals in multiple categories?
The Kang
Breaking news.
The guy is a beast. Best player on either team not even Steph fans can argue that RIGHT now ... in fact, Cam Newton Steph's new bff recently said the same thing ...
lebron padding his stats, nothing to see here...empty stats
Won't stop him from going 2/7.
Bring one to the land
It's only because Curry is hurt, I mean, check this out: http://es.pn/1tlOpi6
His PER has been declining since his injury, it's odd that it kept going down the better the compe ion, but that is just coincidence.
I would imagine when you get hurt, you just get hurt, and your production would just nosedive right after, and either stay constant at that level, or improve slightly over time as your injury heals or you get used to the injury, but no, apparently, when you get injured, you just slowly lose your production, sort of like how cancer works.
As you can see here, Curry is not really hurt after getting hurt, he got 40 points that game, then he got sort of hurt for 4 games, then got really hurt for a game, but then he rebounded, and got really unhurt for 3 straight games (he was almost 100% in that game 7 vs. OKC), but then after a couple of days of rest, he got the most hurt in Game 1 of the Finals, but you can see he is getting less hurt over the last two games, but he is still clearly hurt. I am not sure if he will be hurt or not over the next 2 to 4 games, but like ESPN said, he is CLEARLY hurt because, you know, he is not scoring as much as he was.
For all the stats Lebron puts up he's one of the most unpolished players I've seen at this stage in his career. His stats suggest he had a great Game 3 but it was anything BUT great. It was one of the ugliest games I've ever seen from him. Once his team got him a sizeable enough lead the pressure went away and Bron padded like the typical frontrunner. Draymond Green is another player whose stats are deceiving. He likes to show his ass when his team is up and everything is going great but when everyone is missing and GS looks like dog he'll shrink into the background and shut the up
Hyperbole.For all the stats Lebron puts up he's one of the most unpolished players I've seen at this stage in his career. His stats suggest he had a great Game 3 but it was anything BUT great. It was one of the ugliest games I've ever seen from him. Once his team got him a sizeable enough lead the pressure went away and Bron padded like the typical frontrunner. Draymond Green is another player whose stats are deceiving. He likes to show his ass when his team is up and everything is going great but when everyone is missing and GS looks like dog he'll shrink into the background and shut the up
LeBron has his faults but to say he is the most unpolished at this stage. Look at Lamar Odom. (Love Odom as team-player) Fine player ... wa sin the league a long while ...but before he coked himself out ...he still couldnt finish with his off hand or drive right consistently. James has a great off hand can finish driving to either direction. Good handles, not great ones. Is probably one of the best passers I have ever seen. If you watch Lebron he can make Magic type passes off the bounce with either hand and he is Tom brady like accurate with those passes but when needed can throw it with "pace" like Aaron Rodgers. Only thing unpolished on James is his deep range and his post move counters. Passing and finishing like he does takes polish.
Now, he is overrated on defense ... but when locked in is a high level defender.
James issues are more mental to me than the lack of polish (except on the block)
Last edited by Killakobe81; 06-10-2016 at 11:11 AM.
^hits is right, Killa.
no, salty spurfans on every player in the league that isn't wearing a black jersey
I agree Lebron is a good finisher (well, used to be) and a great passer but his in-between game is so damn mediocre. I've lost count how many times I've seen him get caught in no man's land from 15-18 feet, look indecisive and then pass to a three point shooter who's already blanketed by a defender to bail him out. Even with a midget like Curry on him he does this. His post game is basically his in-between game and that's nothing to write home about either. Still at this stage in his career, no counters, no footwork, just an ugly prayer if he gets deep enough. Kawhi has been in the league only 4-5 seasons and his post game looks far more polished than Lebron's. Same goes for his midrange game as well.
1. agree on counters and cited as such ...
2. If the bar is Jordan/Kobe as far as wings with good footwork I agree with you ... and trust me I do hold James to a high standard but footwork is not his game ...this is known.
3. Although we want LeBron to maximize all his gifts the KL comparison is more a credit to KL than a true knock on James. When I watch him play I want him to attack the rack, not shoot mid-range jumpers tbh ...
4. All that being said saying some aspects of his game is mediocre is different than calling him "the most unpolished" ...
That's not odd; it's exactly what you'd expect.
You could say the same for WestBrick in an era of uber skilled point guards.
-3rd worst 3 point shooter EVER despite playing in an era where it's HIGHLY emphasized
-No floater in an era where every guard has a floater
-Often has to makes jump passes b/c he drives into a crowd
-Blows point blank layups despite being the most athletic PG to play the game b/c he has no touch at the rim
-Gets into the paint not because of his handles or ability to use angles but rather brute athleticism
Dude would be Lance Stephenson if he wasn't a freak athlete.
I don't get this "Curry had a great game last week, so that must mean he's not injured" logic. You can be dealing with a legitimate injury and still put together a great game...it's just more difficult/less likely. Let's say Curry usually plays great in 8/10 games; when he's injured, he might only play great in 2 or 3 out of 10 games.
That doesn't completely excuse his performance thus far in the Finals (he was absolutely dreadful in Game 3, injury or not), but I think the whole "He played just fine the other night, that's proof he's not injured!" argument is pretty ing stupid.
Hit said "at this stage" if you use that as the filter Westbrook is nowhere close in time served ...You could say the same for WestBrick.
-3rd worst 3 point shooter EVER despite playing in an era where it's HIGHLY emphasized
-No floater in an era where every guard has a floater
-Often has to makes jump passes b/c he drives into a crowd
-Blows point blank layups despite being the most athletic PG to play the game b/c he has no touch at the rim
-Gets into the paint not because of his handles or ability to use angles but rather brute athleticism
That is why I used Odom rather than a player with less time in the league
This. It's dumb.
Sure, no one wants to hear excuses but dude is not 100%.
That being said the best of the best find a way to battle through.
So is the "he played poorly the other night, that's proof he is injured!" argument.
"LeBron isn't polished! Look at all the cherrypicked plays I've dug up to nitpick him for!"
Newsflash: there's no such thing as the 100% perfect player. DK needed a generationally stacked team just to get past round one, and needed Stern to change the rules for him because he wilted against physical defenses. Bird was slow-footed, wasn't a great individual defender (though he had a high BBIQ and was a strong team defender), and guys like Paul Pressey, Robert Reid and Bobby Jones gave him fits. Magic was a mediocre defender. Wilt was a mentally-weak stat-padder who choked at the free throw line and in the playoffs. Are they not "polished enough" for the haters too?
Better SF than Kiwi, and it ain't close. Tbh Harrison Barnes too
Westbrook came into the league BEFORE uber skilled guards such as Curry/Harden/Kyrie & Lamar was AT BEST an above average athlete.
I'm comparing Bron/Russ b/c they are the most athletic players EVER at their respective positions & they are HIGHLY dependent on it.
I get that but again Hit was lamenting the fact that Lebron has been in the league X bnumber of years (hence, this stage) and was lacking the polish he wishes to see. I agree Russ also lacks some of the same polish but has not been in the league anywhere close to the time James has ... Lebron entered the league many years before Kiwi and as Hit said there are things he ALREADY does better than James as there are things that Harden does better than Russ?Westbrook came into the league BEFORE uber skilled guards such as Curry/Harden/Kyrie & Lamar was AT BEST an above average athlete.
I'm comparing Bron/Russ b/c they are the most athletic players EVER at their respective positions & they are HIGHLY dependent on it.
Again what does any of that have to with "at this stage" in relation to Lebron who has played more years than any of the guys you mentioned?
For the record, I defended Lebron's lack of polish. I just dont see how Westbrook applies. he still has to\ime to add the polish Hit says Lebron is lacking... Maybe he never gets there. But we dont know that.
Last edited by Killakobe81; 06-10-2016 at 03:03 PM.
There is something about LeBron & his game that ain't right, CN.
Newsflash: there's no such thing as the 100% perfect player. DK needed a generationally stacked team just to get past round one, and needed Stern to change the rules for him because he wilted against physical defenses. Bird was slow-footed, wasn't a great individual defender (though he had a high BBIQ and was a strong team defender), and guys like Paul Pressey, Robert Reid and Bobby Jones gave him fits. Magic was a mediocre defender. Wilt was a mentally-weak stat-padder who choked at the free throw line and in the playoffs. Are they not "polished enough" for the haters too?
Cn wont see that or admit that he will deflect to the retired one as usual ...
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