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Could be Durrant can't stand the mouth breather on the Warriors. Green rubs people the wrong way when you play against him. And Durrant never looked very amused by greens antics.
Because Durant choked against them, duh! #Spurstalklogic
Could be Durrant can't stand the mouth breather on the Warriors. Green rubs people the wrong way when you play against him. And Durrant never looked very amused by greens antics.
If Warriors all players under contract and with roster charges (assume 1st rounder goes overseas otherwise it'll cost another $400k), and they will be at $77.9 million without Durant. If the cap is $92 million, that leaves them with only $14.1 million vs. a $26.0 million year 1 max deal ($11.9 million short). That means Barnes, Ezeli, Speights and Barbosa would all have to be renounced.
Very unlikely, but if Livingston were cut before 6/30, they could save a little under half his salary, or a net $2.2 million when replacing him with a minimum roster charge. Still $9.7 million short.
If they in fact were creating room for Durant, the most likely outcome is either Iguodala or Bogut get jettisoned, who make $11.1 million and $12.7 million, respectively. Iguodala would put them under a full max deal, but could get closer by finding a taker for Kevon Looney. Bogut would give them the ability to offer a full max deal.
They could also keep Barnes and Ezeli's cap holds and move out Bogut and Iggy and be about $2 million shy, but that would assume no salary coming back.
While there would almost certainly be takers for Iggy, and Bogut has value in situations but is an injury concern, moving either of those guys without taking salary back will be a hard deal to pull off if teams know they are gunning for Durant. They'll try to extract a king's ransom. That's what makes moving Splitter last offseason so remarkable.
I am also wondering how upset Nike will be if Durant becomes a second banana to UA's Curry after they spent 300m on him.
Thanks for a solid explanation.
I hope Durant is serious about being willing to take less. If he is, the Spurs can get somewhat close by moving Mills and stretching Diaw ($22 Million). Moving Anderson and Simmons would add like another million to that amount. Anything more would require substantial changes that would really impact the team's ability to field the best roster they can next season.
You left out trading Green because I'm not sure he'd accept a role of 10 minutes off the bench.
I don't think he'd care. However, at $10 Million, that role wouldn't be worth it. He'd play more, though. The Spurs would go small and run without a PG quite a bit, especially if they are going to keep being post-heavy.
They've been running without a point guard for a couple of years.
Exactly. You'd see minutes with Durant at the 4, as well as no PG and Green as the guy guarding the PG (Durant bringing ball up floor).
Plenty of time for Green to play, as this scenario assumes Manu retires and Mills is moved (potentially Simmons/Anderson too).
Yeah:
Parker 28 mpg, Miller 14 mpg, Green 8 mpg
Kawhi 26 mpg, Green, 22 mpg
Durant 26 mpg, Leonard 10 mpg, Bertans 12mpg
Aldridge 24 mpg, Durant 10 mpg, min guy or prospect 14 mmpg
room-exception guy 20 mpg, LMA 12 mpg, min guy 16 mpg
Something like that. Getting centers like Plumlee would make total sense then, if they will go for the room exception. And bringing West back would also help quite a bit. Plenty of minutes left in any event.
I'd like to see Kyle Anderson get those 14 minutes. Be the Diaw replacement. Can be a distributor from the 4 spot. Hopefully he continues to work on his shot this offseason to make people pay for playing off him.
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^ Yup, if Durant were a serious consideration, the guy to move is Green.
1. He will be easy to move. We could get a 1st round pick even.
2. He won't be starting once Durant is here and his defensive talents are wasted in the bench. Playing behind both Kawhi and Durant he won't even get enough minutes. At times all 3 can play together but you can get that kind of production from younger and cheaper players and Danny's no 6th man. He has a niche, to be worth what he's paid he has to be starting and defending the difficult perimeter players nightly.
If you have Durant then you can move Green. Given he would already be losing his starting job, it seems a given. This is not difficult.
That's all well and good but, Kyle Anderson isn't going anywhere and he will eat up all the minutes at back up SF (much to my chagrin). If the Spurs are running small without a pg, it would make more sense to throw KA at the point, Kiwi at the 2 and Durant at the 3. It's highly doubtful the Spurs will go long stretches without a true pg on the floor though. The few instances where they threw Paddy out there without Ginobili, the offense was a total fail. KA isn't an ideal pg by any stretch but it's better than trying to fit square pegs into round holes and asking your forwards to run the offense. I mean, talk about an ISOcentric offense.
Danny Green is a rhythm player that needs minutes and touches to gain his form and timing. He won't be doing that for 10 minutes a game off the bench. I also don't necessarily agree that stretching Diaw over 2 years is a good thing. That would mean he's no longer in a contract year, which mean you're staring at another year of slow, fat and disinterested basketball.
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the guy took significantly less money to stay in SA. Guaranteed he'd have zero problem coming off the bench if they acquired Kevin Durant
Yeah Kawhi would be the "PG" and initiate or Ginobili would.
Wouldnt matter over all because youd have three freaking all NBA players in the starting five
If Durant comes, you want to push the pace. Having Durant play PG for stretches or whatever people were thinking, you are not playing to your strengths. A wing combination of Leonard and Durant is far to long, fast, and have to much firerpower on the break to not play fast. Add in Green(if you is still here), Simmons, that is one fast wing combination. So having Parker and another fast pg that can put the ball down and push the ball would do wonders. Heck even LMA can outrun most centers out there.
You wanna play fast but have Porker as your PG? Ok.
What bet he lost ?
Id love to see KA run the point to see if he could do it. Sure KA looked badly overmatched against OKC but hes also shown streaks of brilliance. Hes had a year full of mistakes to learn from, not taking the open frickin shot being problem number one, and so now we will see if he can correct them. But he needs to be a point...something...to be effective I feel. He needs the ball in his hands because he needs to be creative to be effective. He'll know when and where to give the ball to both KL and LMA and he'll make the offense gel. Of course this is an optimistic view thatll only work if he gets an outside shot and isnt a liability on D being taller and slower than the opposing teams PG.
Lol, somebody said Durant would play 2nd fiddle to curry if he joi warriors. Common now, leonard, lebron, durant and Westbrook are all better than curry. That's why Westbrook laughed. Curry is being worshiped by National media like never before seen.
Parker still pushes the ball better than a tone of other pg's. Just looking at the teams, he pushes the ball better than half of the team's starting pg. The Parker hate is ridiculous. He is overpaid, yes. He has is strengths though.
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