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Again, scrums are nothing more than sumo wrestling in pads.
Messi dealt with growth hormone deficiency as a kid so you won't see him w/ bulging muscles unless he's taking HGH.Excessive muscle mass in the legs can also cause cramping. More muscle mass=more oxygen required=more lactic acid build up.
Look at that . Ronaldo is built more like an NFL wide receiver than a soccer player. Messi has the ideal skinny fat build (see how he has no leg muscle definition) for the sport.
On the other hand, Ronaldo has a typical leg muscle definition of a futbol player gained from years-&-years of sprinting since they first started walking. Just look at his teammate Bale who is of similar size:
Even I have big calf/thigh muscles even though I'm a fairly slim person (thanks to Futbol).
Again, scrums are nothing more than sumo wrestling in pads.
I don't get his argument concerning specialization here anyhow. Pretty much all sports have specialized positions that don't require the player to have an overall skill set (all NFL positions are actually specialized. Goalies in soccer. Goalies in hockey. Bigs in basketball. A great big can be a great basketball player without ever learning how to dribble, drive, and shoot).
It's what the poverty ball supporters try to use against baseball even though their own sport has specialized players as well.
Usain Bolt is the most specialized elite athlete in the world, and he's celebrated as the "world's greatest athlete" because he can run fast in a straight line over a short distance (he's not the world's greatest track athlete, though. Ashton Eaton is.) Not trying to denigrate Bolt. My point is we don't see all the training and work Bolt puts in just to run those 100 meters.
Baseball is similar. These guys are killing it in the weight room, training up their explosiveness, taking hours of batting practice, just to excel over those few moments when they're at bat and need to make a play in the field.
Then if they're successful they fail 7 out of 10 times.
Damn, you lurking on the soccer subforum or a coincidenceThe Mendoza Line is a pretty obscure factoid to know for someone who lives abroad that presumably hates baseball.
So Canada then? Or Northern Mexico?
I liked it once upon a time. Dennis Bergkamp was my favorite player as a kid, but when I grew more into a hardcore sports fan, soccer game's design started to turn me off more and more. As I said in my first post: Poor comeback factor, poor counter-punch dynamic, predictable scoring line variation, too many ties, minigame to decide winners, diving, more diving, fouls in the box are disproportionally awarded.? http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=261276
you couldn't go wrong there..Berkamp's goal here is probably worth all Baseball highlights this season..
Linesmen & sumo wrestlers are the only athletes in any sports were being morbidly obese is advantageous.
(You even admitted a couple of obese Biesbol players would be better player if they weren't Charlotte Boris Diaw status but that hasn't stopped 'em from winning MVPs b/c the sport requires the bare minimum athleticism to dominate)
Besides, Hakeem was a goal keeper but wasn't good enough to make it despite size/athleticism being advantageous for the position.
All moot if Hakeem's reaction time is relatively poor by worldclass goal keeper standards.Linesmen & sumo wrestlers are the only athletes in any sports were being morbidly obese is advantageous.
(You even admitted a couple of obese Biesbol players would be better player if they weren't Charlotte Boris Diaw status but that hasn't stopped 'em from winning MVPs b/c the sport requires the bare minimum athleticism to dominate)
Besides, Hakeem was a goal keeper but wasn't good enough to make it despite size/athleticism being advantageous for the position.
Again, which MVP winners were fat?
Cabrera?
Doesn't look obese to me here.
CC winning the Cy Young?
That's really the only example. Like I've said, there's always exception where a player beats the odds. Furthermore, being a MLB starting pitcher in the modern era is probably the most demanding job in pro sports (why do you think they need 4 days off after each start?).
Just look at the fastballs thrown and velocity decline from age 25-29.
And it's almost guaranteed now a starting pitcher will need Tommy John at some point. See Tim Lince . Future GOAT to done overnight.
Not true, actually.Linesmen & sumo wrestlers are the only athletes in any sports were being morbidly obese is advantageous.
(You even admitted a couple of obese Biesbol players would be better player if they weren't Charlotte Boris Diaw status but that hasn't stopped 'em from winning MVPs b/c the sport requires the bare minimum athleticism to dominate)
Besides, Hakeem was a goal keeper but wasn't good enough to make it despite size/athleticism being advantageous for the position.
And endurance/stamina wise, wrestling and boxing>>>>>>>soccer.
I'm not just talking . Those sports are insanely demanding. And for my money, boxing is probably the most demanding sport on earth across the board, from the training to the actual match.
It also makes sense from an endurance perspective (for someone who is just naturally strong, like Gardner or Foreman). If you just need weight but not necessarily more strength, it's probably better to get "fatter" rather than put on more muscle mass, since muscles obviously demand more oxygen, reducing stamina.
Garner wasn't morbidly obese & didn't have a pot belly, he's a naturally stocky dude w/ country boy strength. He blew up when he was inactive ala Barkley.Not true, actually.
Fat Foreman LOST every time he faced anyone that actually beat a LEGIT heavyweight: Holyfield/Morrison/Briggs. He became a champion by beating Moorer who was a blown up light-heavyweight that held the le b/c Holyfield basically had a heart attack in the ring. Holyfield had battered Foreman before he lost the le & made Moorer retire in their re-match.
It depends on the style of the fighter & the position of the Futbol player. Foreman barely moves & he can take punches b/c of his enormous size. Grappling can be pretty uneventful if they are just pinning each other. Besides, there are no timeouts in futbol & wingers/mid-fielders have to move nonstop. (There is a reason why cramps are more common in futbol that any other sport)And endurance/stamina wise, wrestling and boxing>>>>>>>soccer.
Boxing has 3 minute rounds w/ breaks & depending of the style of the fighter they can just get on their bikes or tie up if they need a break. Floyd barely get gassed b/c he doesn't get hit & does AEROBIC exercises like futbol players instead of pumping iron.I'm not just talking . Those sports are insanely demanding. And for my money, boxing is probably the most demanding sport on earth across the board, from the training to the actual match.
Except if you do aerobic exercise at an elite level then there won't be any fat on your body.It also makes sense from an endurance perspective (for someone who is just naturally strong, like Gardner or Foreman). If you just need weight but not necessarily more strength, it's probably better to get "fatter" rather than put on more muscle mass, since muscles obviously demand more oxygen, reducing stamina.
I've seen a couple of middle distance runner built like Ronaldo but I've yet to see a chubby one.
Last edited by Kawhitstorm; 06-11-2016 at 09:59 PM.
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So that's what caused the shaking around my house
So I guess all you need isn't endurance to be a professional futbol player?
Doesn't look obese to me here.
CC winning the Cy Young? That's really the only example.
Everyone wants to be a power pitcher but they don't have the body for it, knuckle ballers can pitch everyday in their 40s.Like I've said, there's always exception where a player beats the odds. Furthermore, being a MLB starting pitcher in the modern era is probably the most demanding job in pro sports (why do you think they need 4 days off after each start?).
Randy Johnson/Pedro/Clemens & 'em were throwing heat in their mid 30s but today's athletes:Just look at the fastballs thrown and velocity decline from age 25-29.
That's b/c they abuse their undeveloped bodies playing Little league & abuse PEDs in the majors.And it's almost guaranteed now a starting pitcher will need Tommy John at some point. See Tim Lince . Future GOAT to done overnight.
Depends on your definition of morbidly obese. Gardner's love handles are spilling out of his wrestling tights in that picture.Garner wasn't morbidly obese & didn't have a pot belly, he's a naturally stocky dude w/ country boy strength. He blew up when he was inactive ala Barkley.
Fat Foreman still had 4 successful le defenses following his win over Moorer. And he was almost 50 and basically obese! Fat Foreman also beat Coetzer in his run up to qualifying for the le shot against Moorer. Coetzer wasn't an all-time great or anything, but a solid boxer in his prime.Fat Foreman LOST every time he faced anyone that actually beat a LEGIT heavyweight: Holyfield/Morrison/Briggs. He became a champion by beating Moorer who was a blown up light-heavyweight that held the le b/c Holyfield basically had a heart attack in the ring. Holyfield had battered Foreman before he lost the le & made Moorer retire in their re-match.
And in K-1/MMA Mark Hunt was always pretty fat.
I was talking about sports where you need a good deal of stamina in addition to massive upper body strength: Sumo, NFL lineman, Wrestling, Boxing, etc. Someone built like this would get gassed in 5 seconds.I've seen a couple of middle distance runner built like Ronaldo but I've yet to see a chubby one.
Last edited by midnightpulp; 06-12-2016 at 04:02 AM.
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In the 80's yes, early 90's too maybe, after that no...... Sides a player or two. Baseball is dead and has been dead to me for years now.
I never stated that's all you need.So I guess all you need isn't endurance to be a professional futbol player?
Colon wasn't grossly overweight when he won the Cy Young.
And knuckle-ballers are dice rolls every time they take the mound. They can go from a having a good season/good game to implosion.Everyone wants to be a power pitcher but they don't have the body for it, knuckle ballers can pitch everyday in their 40s.
Exceptions.Randy Johnson/Pedro/Clemens & 'em were throwing heat in their mid 30s but today's athletes:
Fun fact: A pitcher burns about 1000-1400 calories over a 9 inning game.
That's roughly in the same zone as soccer.In a standard nine-inning game, a pitcher will burn about 1,440 calories, according to Eugene Coleman’s book “52-Week Baseball Training.”
Running around isn't the only way to stress your body. In fact, it's the easiest thing to train for. It's why all the unathletic, weak and uncoordinated kids usually try out for cross-country in high schoolSoccer is an effective way to stay in shape, but it won't help you burn calories as quickly as playing a game of football. Harvard Medical School notes that a 185-pound person who plays soccer for 30 minutes will burn 311 calories. As with football, consider the amount of time you spend on the field during a 90-minute soccer match. Although soccer burns calories slightly slower than football, you can still burn more than 900 calories if you play the entire match. As such, a full game of soccer can burn more calories than a full game of football.
Same.
Remember McGuire and Bonds hitting all these HRs while juicing up. Utter embarrassment for baseball.
That is when I stopped watching man, it was over then.
one of my friends spends his entire day watching soccer games, its definitely become a big plague
These cheaters stole millions from the fan and got away with it.
Now, imagine all those who didn't get caught.
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This wanker midnightpup ( got name tbh) just clogged an entire thread with pics of shirtless overweight, son just go on spread the cheeks and ask one of them for the tbh.
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