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    West signing for more money, Timmy is retiring and Diaw is being waived

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    You won the internet today...

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    I mean, I honestly don't think it' a money thing. If it was he would not have taken such a crazy payout when he did not have to. It could be obviously, but you would have to think he knows the more money he makes the less the team has to improve with.

    If his goal was a le and he gave up 11M it would be foolish to go the other way now - especially after the season SA had.

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    I can't imagine Spurs re-signing him with a raise. Can't imagine them making promises last summer regarding a more lucrative contract in the future -- considering how old he is.

    Retiring or gone... At least I hope.

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    I can't imagine Spurs re-signing him with a raise. Can't imagine them making promises last summer regarding a more lucrative contract in the future -- considering how old he is.

    Retiring or gone... At least I hope.
    Even at his age, there was considerable interest in West last year. I can definitely see SA promising to give him a raise after year 1 for coming. I don't think it's necessarily the reason for the opt out, but I wouldn't be shocked or anything.

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    San Antonio Spurs forward David West has decided to decline his $1.5 million player option for 2016-17 and evaluate his playing future, league sources told The Vertical.

    West signed a two-year contract with the Spurs last season, rejecting his $12.6 million option with the Indiana Pacers to sign for the veteran's minimum and pursue a championship in San Antonio.

    West relished playing for the Spurs in a reserve role to LaMarcus Aldridge and Tim Duncan. For West, declining the second-year option had always been a relative lock. West, 35, now faces a final decision on continuing his playing career, and would assuredly consider a return to the Spurs. The Spurs could give West a more lucrative deal depending on their free-agent pursuits.

    In 78 games this season, West averaged 7.1 points and four rebounds while shooting 54.5 percent from the field.

    The Spurs also face option and playing decisions from longtime stars Duncan and Manu Ginobili. San Antonio made a run to the Western Conference semifinals, where they lost to the Oklahoma City Thunder in six games.

    West has averaged 14.8 points and 6.9 rebounds in 13 NBA seasons with New Orleans, Indiana and San Antonio. He was the No. 18 overall pick by New Orleans in the 2003 NBA draft out of Xavier.
    Per Yahoo...http://sports.yahoo.com/news/sources...184846774.html

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    Asked him to lose 30 pounds, gonna be my backup 3.

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    Makes sense. If the Spurs can't create the cap space this year to do what they want, they can still field a compe ive team and sign a guy like West to a lucrative 1 year deal (they have to spend the money anyways and can reward him). Then kick the can down the road until next year's free agency.

    Probably not plan A, but definitely something that is realistic depending on what Tim/Manu do, what happens in the draft and what trades they might make.

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    nice to see some initial movement finally taking place. first of july is just around the corner.

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    Makes sense. If the Spurs can't create the cap space this year to do what they want, they can still field a compe ive team and sign a guy like West to a lucrative 1 year deal (they have to spend the money anyways and can reward him). Then kick the can down the road until next year's free agency.

    Probably not plan A, but definitely something that is realistic depending on what Tim/Manu do, what happens in the draft and what trades they might make.
    Ideally though why try to contend if it's not with pieces that will be there long term. I'd rather tell him kick rocks, bring in a rookie and let him get experience.. Cheap rookie deal plus experience and maybe suck enough to get a good draft pick. Cap space plus potential 15-20 pick and a core to build around. Why prolong the inevitable rebuild by retreading old fogies?

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    Ideally though why try to contend if it's not with pieces that will be there long term. I'd rather tell him kick rocks, bring in a rookie and let him get experience.. Cheap rookie deal plus experience and maybe suck enough to get a good draft pick. Cap space plus potential 15-20 pick and a core to build around. Why prolong the inevitable rebuild by retreading old fogies?
    Because they won't do that to Tim/Manu/TP/West. They won 67 games and could have beaten OKC. They may believe (as do I) that they don't need massive improvements.

    Especially if Tim/Manu come back, that will make it difficult to truly do anything in FA (because that means 99% they don't trade TP either then) so they will work with what they can, be loyal and hope to strike gold in the draft or through whatever small trades they can make.

    The only concern at this point is Tim/Manu and they will not look to the future until Tim is gone.

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    I just don't think West should come back. Spurs gotta try something else...and I dunno if West will be willing to wait and see

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    I just don't think West should come back. Spurs gotta try something else...and I dunno if West will be willing to wait and see
    I do. I don't think he wants money, like I said, or else why do what he did? I'm sure he would take more money if the Spurs were being loyal and strike out on other moves. But with how much he loves SA and how good SA was last year, I think he still thinks SA is the best spot.

    We may very well be looking at a situation where West is looking at retiring or returning if the Spurs need him for another year if FA plan A/B don't happen.

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    I'll take him as the 5th bigman.

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    Everyone expected DWest as the fourth big off the bench. Got sixth man minutes instead.

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    Everyone expected DWest as the fourth big off the bench. Got sixth man minutes instead.
    Which is why I don't want him back, if Poop keeps giving him minutes like a sixth man. Now if West was the fourth/fifth big, then sure why not. I know it's not West's fault though.

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    I don't blame him. I'd opt out too if I took a huge cut to join a "championship" team and things ended as they did this year
    Except that he was as bad as anyone in the playoffs.

    Bye, Felicia.

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    I do. I don't think he wants money, like I said, or else why do what he did? I'm sure he would take more money if the Spurs were being loyal and strike out on other moves. But with how much he loves SA and how good SA was last year, I think he still thinks SA is the best spot.

    We may very well be looking at a situation where West is looking at retiring or returning if the Spurs need him for another year if FA plan A/B don't happen.
    You could be right. It'd be great if he would wait around. But as a FO you can't attack the offseason that way..you either bring him back or find his replacement. We dunno who will knock on his door or what $ is available. Heck we don't even know what SA wants to do tbh

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    Which is why I don't want him back, if Poop keeps giving him minutes like a sixth man. Now if West was the fourth/fifth big, then sure why not. I know it's not West's fault though.
    I have no problem with Fathead of DWest. Just don't play them big minutes during the Playoffs.

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    You could be right. It'd be great if he would wait around. But as a FO you can't attack the offseason that way..you either bring him back or find his replacement. We dunno who will knock on his door or what $ is available. Heck we don't even know what SA wants to do tbh
    That is exactly how the FO attacks it IMO. There's an understanding there. I don't think the danger of losing West dictates anything. It could happen, but don't think it is a real threat IMO.

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    west did good during the regular season.

    shot 55% from the field. career best.

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    I don't blame him. I'd opt out too if I took a huge cut to join a "championship" team and things ended as they did this year
    A huge reason they ended that way was because of him. He was ing terrible against OKC.

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    Except that he was as bad as anyone in the playoffs.

    Yeah, I don't know. West played his whole career at the 4. He spent a lot of this season playing C. In the regular season he was facing a lot of backups, and he held his own pretty well most of the time. In the playoffs, the starters spend a lot more time on the floor, plus OKC had one of the best bench C's in the league.

    If the Spurs had the Tim Duncan from the 2015 playoffs, I think they at least get a shot at GSW I the conference finals. Against OKC's monsters, West never had much of a chance. I'm not denying that he wasn't good, but the expectations are probably a little unfair.

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    Yeah, I don't know. West played his whole career at the 4. He spent a lot of this season playing C. In the regular season he was facing a lot of backups, and he held his own pretty well most of the time. In the playoffs, the starters spend a lot more time on the floor, plus OKC had one of the best bench C's in the league.

    If the Spurs had the Tim Duncan from the 2015 playoffs, I think they at least get a shot at GSW I the conference finals. Against OKC's monsters, West never had much of a chance. I'm not denying that he wasn't good, but the expectations are probably a little unfair.
    The expectations were at very least that he would hit open jumpers and make smart plays. He did neither. And all the talk when he was signed was about how much he loved the Spurs and how he had their poster on his wall. So much for all that fandom when he s the bed in the playoffs and then bolts at the first opportunity.

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