Church of Trump

[Th'Pusher]

That's a confusing statement. It seems more to me that he is concerned mostly about countering internet propaganda from ISIS that reaches weak and temperamental conservative-minded Muslims. Like I've said multiple times now, ISIS is only one part of the equation. No one can even get past that one, though, so it doesn't surprise me everyone wants to conflate the two at every turn.

That was an excerpt from a longer. I'm sorry you though it was confusing.

You're right in that Obama doesn't attribute this terrorism to radical Islam, but rather to a perversion of Islam. I'm fine with that distinction. I don't think that it in any way "precludes any real defense from Pulse or San Bernardino" as you suggest.

[z0sa]

Is it just the fact that he refers to it as a perversion of Islam as opposed to radical Islam that you take issue with zosa?

Yes and no. it depends on "which" spectrum of Islam you're talking about. Conservative Islam encourages killing gays, encourages honor killings, encourages theocracy, encourages misogyny. More moderate and liberal Muslims do not see the need to follow these extreme practices, and thus would agree it is a "perversion."

What I want is some leadership that not only says extremists must be countered, but that we are not going to tolerate any religious sect which encourages or is even apathetic to unlawful behavior, or actively denies the rights of others. Not from a lawmaker standpoint, from a societal and cultural standpoint.

[Th'Pusher]

Yeah I personally don't care about the 3 magic words as if it's "bippidy boppidy boo" that's going to suddenly weaken isis.

I'm just saying that's what trumps beef is regarding the "something else going on"... The culture where the president tries to tip toe around words out of fear of possibly offending people.

I also agree that it's pretty lame to nitpick between calling it a perversion instead of radical. Which is why it's so odd that Barry is playing around it so hard as though he's lost a bet and isn't allowed to utter the words. The wording is such an irrelevant issue that has blown up to a giant game of chicken that's distracting from the real issue

The only people making an issue of the wording are republicans making political hay while simultaneously blowing their dog whistles...

[spurraider21]

The only people making an issue of the wording are republicans making political hay while simultaneously blowing their dog whistles...

It ends up becoming a distraction for everybody. See: this thread.

It's stupid and just a game of chicken. Obama literally won't say it put of pride at this point or else trump can say "I told you so"

[TheSanityAnnex]

It ends up becoming a distraction for everybody. See: this thread.

It's stupid and just a game of chicken. Obama literally won't say it put of pride at this point or else trump can say "I told you so"

Trump finally got Hillary to say it lol

[pgardn]

Trump finally got Hillary to say it lol

This man is a Fckn lunatic or has stroked out. See his comments on Orlando #339 - 360

[djohn2oo8]

Trump finally got Hillary to say it lol

Actually, because she said it, Trump or the GOP don't have an attacking point.

[Th'Pusher]

Actually, because she said it, Trump or the GOP don't have an attacking point.

Neutered them early.

[Reck]

Trump finally got Hillary to say it lol

“Whether you call it radical jihadism, radical Islamism, I think they mean the same thing,” Clinton told CNN.

“I’m happy to say either. But what I won’t do, because I think it is dangerous for our efforts to defeat this threat, is to demonize and demagogue and, you know, declare war on an entire religion. That plays right into ISIS’ hands.”

That reads differently.

[spurraider21]

one thing i dont get is why clinton/obama have to constantly remind people that we aren't "declaring a war on an entire religion"

has any GOP candidate said otherwise? heck even dubya was adamant about not being at war against islam

[TheSanityAnnex]

That reads differently.

Through your semen coated glasses, sure.

[Reck]

Through your semen coated glasses, sure.

Pull a quote that says otherwise. Go.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Pull a quote that says otherwise. Go.

“Whether you call it radical jihadism, radical Islamism, I think they mean the same thing, I’m happy to say either".

Not only did Trump get her to say it but she's ing happy to do so

[z0sa]

Through your semen coated glasses, sure.

[Reck]

Not only did Trump get her to say it but she's ing happy to do so

Then you won't have a hard time pulling a direct quote of her saying it.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Then you won't have a hard time pulling a direct quote of her saying it.

Did you ha

[boutons_deux]

has any GOP candidate said otherwise? heck even dubya was adamant about not being at war against islam

Trash wants to ban ALL Muslims from entering USA, and 10Ms of you stupid Trash supports agree with him, esp you Christian Taliban.

Repugs HATE THE KNITTER so much they want to force their "boy" to speak exactly the words they dictate.

[boutons_deux]

Trash: Let’s keep refugee kids out so they won’t ‘listen to the Internet and fall in love with ISIS’


http://www.rawstory.com/2016/06/trum...e+Raw+Story%29

[boutons_deux]

Here's a conservative politician dumping the Trash

Morning Joe panel declares Trump’s “treasonous” remarks about Obama should “disqualify him for presidency”

Trump accused a sitting president of being complicit in the murder of Americans — of committing a "treasonous act"

On MSNBC’s Morning Joe Tuesday, the panel discussed what they characterized as presumptive Republican nominee Donald Trump’s “treasonous” remarks about President Barack Obama.

Co-host Joe Scarborough opened the segment by mocking Trump’s decision to revoke The Washington Post’s press credentials, comparing it to the Pope banning the Bible from church or Major League Baseball banning baseball bats from baseball stadiums.

He further noted that Trump made “a suggestion on a couple of channels” — referring to his appearances on both the TODAY show and Fox & Friends — that the president “was somehow implicated in these terror attacks, and then said, ‘Well, I’ll let people just try to figure out what I said.'”

http://www.salon.com/2016/06/14/watc...or_presidency/

[rmt]

Trash wants to ban ALL Muslims from entering USA, and 10Ms of you stupid Trash supports agree with him, esp you Christian Taliban.

Repugs HATE THE KNITTER so much they want to force their "boy" to speak exactly the words they dictate.

He said in his speech yesterday, "The immigration laws of the United States give the president powers to suspend entry into the country of any class of persons. ... I would use this power to protect the American people. When I'm elected, I will suspend immigration from areas of the world where there is a proven history of terrorism against the United States, Europe or our allies, until we fully understand how to end these threats" Trump said, adding that "we have no choice."

[boutons_deux]

He said in his speech yesterday, "The immigration laws of the United States give the president powers to suspend entry into the country of any class of persons. ... I would use this power to protect the American people. When I'm elected, I will suspend immigration from areas of the world where there is a proven history of terrorism against the United States, Europe or our allies, until we fully understand how to end these threats" Trump said, adding that "we have no choice."

See, your garden-variety Trash fellator is one ignorant, bigoted, hateful .

[spurraider21]

Trash wants to ban ALL Muslims from entering USA, and 10Ms of you stupid Trash supports agree with him, esp you Christian Taliban.

Repugs HATE THE KNITTER so much they want to force their "boy" to speak exactly the words they dictate.

I don't agree with his immigration proposal

[hitmanyr2k]

He said in his speech yesterday, "The immigration laws of the United States give the president powers to suspend entry into the country of any class of persons. ... I would use this power to protect the American people. When I'm elected, I will suspend immigration from areas of the world where there is a proven history of terrorism against the United States, Europe or our allies, until we fully understand how to end these threats" Trump said, adding that "we have no choice."

Yeah, that's going to stop home-grown terrorism.

[rmt]

Yeah, that's going to stop home-grown terrorism.

Why let more possible/future terrorists into the country to overwhelm the FBI? Lots of other places on this planet they can accept immigration from.

[djohn2oo8]

Barry eviscerated Donny