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    Bro why so much hate?I speak from my heart...Jesus Christ loves you.....Sorry you feel that way bro but no one should ever mock God or the Son of God...Jesus Christ....Becareful what you ask for cause eventually we all have to face Gods Judgment.....I admit I have sinned so many times but one thing I would never do is test Almighty God...God could destroy me right now if he wanted to but no he loves us that he is giving us a chance by his son Christ Jesus..the one who died on the cross for us..the sinners...for me the sinner....I repent of all my sins..forgive me for all my sins Jesus Christ..My lord and Saviour...Praise the LORD!!!!!Wake up before to late.... one more time...Turn to the Lord before its too late cause he his coming..Yes Jesus is COMING...Don't know the day time or hour ....He is coming back...The kings of Kings...Lord of Lords....Jesus loves you....
    jesus ing christ, mang!

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    What does that even mean?
    Just like coachmac says... iMan killed Jesus because they didn't believe he was the Messiah..but believing he is the messiah afterwards would mean he died for your sin. In other words "forgiven"s the word of God

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    God did made us.....The truth is brother.....God created......That is what I feel in my heart.....
    Looks like he rushed it with yo...

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    What does that even mean?
    it means before jesus you couldn't be saved except under Jewish standards and afterwards you can pray to jesus with your foreskin attached and still go to heaven.

    it's funny, the muslims have no problem with jesus christ being a prophet. Just that their guy is the big one. Their guy actually wrote a book. Jesus knocked over a cart (he was antisemitic) and had fan boys hash out a religion over a few choice words. Christianity is mostly paul dumbing down Judaism for greeks.

    No one in this thread would be christian if it weren't for the roman empire. And no one would be christian today if it weren't for luther slapping down the corrupt church. luther is more important than jesus. I can imagine being a christian, but not ever using the bible since that is a man made book.

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    it means before jesus you couldn't be saved except under Jewish standards and afterwards you can pray to jesus with your foreskin attached and still go to heaven.

    it's funny, the muslims have no problem with jesus christ being a prophet. Just that their guy is the big one. Their guy actually wrote a book. Jesus knocked over a cart (he was antisemitic) and had fan boys hash out a religion over a few choice words. Christianity is mostly paul dumbing down Judaism for greeks.

    No one in this thread would be christian if it weren't for the roman empire. And no one would be christian today if it weren't for luther slapping down the corrupt church. luther is more important than jesus. I can imagine being a christian, but not ever using the bible since that is a man made book.


    You don't even believe in your own existence...

    I am a Christian but I gurantee you my "Christian Beliefs" are NOT the same as the main stream Christian.

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    For the Son of Man came to seek and save the lost. Luke 19.10

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    You don't even believe in your own existence...

    I am a Christian but I gurantee you my "Christian Beliefs" are NOT the same as the main stream Christian.
    Im right with you brother....

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    I'm not an LGBT supporter but that doesn't mean I'm against it. What happened yesterday in particular with our nations response to the shooting is laughable. Obama wants to blame the 2nd amendment for what happened.

    The second amendment was originally created to let the people be equal to the government. It was an establishment of power for the people. The whole gun control is a movement to relinquish power from the people.

    First off, if you are for gun control then I won't even hold an argument with you. If you think gun control will solve any problem within our country you are a complete idiot. The Democratic Party wants to take firearms away from you. That means that if some type of law were to pass outlawing the 2nd amendment, all citizens with a license to carry would have to fork over their guns. This means that about 90% of criminals who carry a gun without permits would get to keep their guns. So literally you're taking away protection from law abiding citizens. Guns don't kill people, crazy people with guns kill people. The worst mass shooting in history takes place and Obama blames the second amendment, meanwhile Trump wants to take action. I guarantee you that if a few other people in that nightclub had firearms it would have saved some lives.

    I am loaded down with protection and refuse to register, because I fear the possibility of my protection being taken away. Get your head out of the gutter.

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    Im right with you brother....
    Look a little deeper into your belief, you might find that you are not Christian.

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    your lord. i curse him a million times. tell that to smite me right now. you know what will happen? jack .
    I'm an agnostic. But you getting caught up in this doesn't look good. Just laugh at it and brush it off. The fact that you replied a couple times says it got under you...

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    Look a little deeper into your belief, you might find that you are not Christian.
    Well don't know what you mean about that....Deep down in my heart I love Jesus....Jesus changed my life.....I admit I believed in Jesus but didn't really have true abiding faith in the Lord intill my dad got ill and he passed away last Dec...God really opened up my heart as well as my life....I thank god everyday for what all the things he has done for me and for my family....as well as others.....I couldn't do it without Jesus Christ.....The lord is what keeps me strong and he is a very loving father...(Holy Father)Everytime that I need help with something all I do is ask in prayer....He has been there for me and Im very greatful to have an amazing Lord Jesus Christ....If you believe and have faith...as well as action in faith the Lord will come to you..but you need to call out to him..he is there....you just to need invite him into your heart..welcome him to your life....Yes Jesus Saves

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    Trust in The Lord with all your Heart & lean not on your own understanding Proverbs3:5

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    I'm not an LGBT supporter but that doesn't mean I'm against it. What happened yesterday in particular with our nations response to the shooting is laughable. Obama wants to blame the 2nd amendment for what happened.

    The second amendment was originally created to let the people be equal to the government. It was an establishment of power for the people. The whole gun control is a movement to relinquish power from the people.

    First off, if you are for gun control then I won't even hold an argument with you. If you think gun control will solve any problem within our country you are a complete idiot. The Democratic Party wants to take firearms away from you. That means that if some type of law were to pass outlawing the 2nd amendment, all citizens with a license to carry would have to fork over their guns. This means that about 90% of criminals who carry a gun without permits would get to keep their guns. So literally you're taking away protection from law abiding citizens. Guns don't kill people, crazy people with guns kill people. The worst mass shooting in history takes place and Obama blames the second amendment, meanwhile Trump wants to take action. I guarantee you that if a few other people in that nightclub had firearms it would have saved some lives.

    I am loaded down with protection and refuse to register, because I fear the possibility of my protection being taken away. Get your head out of the gutter.
    If laws making guns illegal stopped gun violence, then the only thing required to make people safe is laws making murder illegal.

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    Haha, now we taking guns...on one hand we have a clear majority of Americans favoring gun restrictions but because some liberal devil might go too far, no restrictions are allowed ever.

    So Saudi Arabia doesn't need to finance dumb jihadists, just buy ar-15s. Every time we have a mass killing idiots adjust the template. You have to kill at least twenty to make the satanic hall of fame. The machine gun, body armor, and a crowded place will easily result in double digit deaths in 30 seconds. We'll see more of this from imbeciles to various grievance filed numb nuts.




    Can anyone convince me that a known Isis fighter couldn't get guns if they wanted it? .like if the store refuses they could sue right?


    First amendment, plus second amendment is a of a combo.



    Fwiw I'm a big proponent of the security state. Great jobs under the fascist regime, but please please please, vote for a smart sane fascist.

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    I'm not an LGBT supporter but that doesn't mean I'm against it. What happened yesterday in particular with our nations response to the shooting is laughable. Obama wants to blame the 2nd amendment for what happened.

    The second amendment was originally created to let the people be equal to the government. It was an establishment of power for the people. The whole gun control is a movement to relinquish power from the people.

    First off, if you are for gun control then I won't even hold an argument with you. If you think gun control will solve any problem within our country you are a complete idiot. The Democratic Party wants to take firearms away from you. That means that if some type of law were to pass outlawing the 2nd amendment, all citizens with a license to carry would have to fork over their guns. This means that about 90% of criminals who carry a gun without permits would get to keep their guns. So literally you're taking away protection from law abiding citizens. Guns don't kill people, crazy people with guns kill people. The worst mass shooting in history takes place and Obama blames the second amendment, meanwhile Trump wants to take action. I guarantee you that if a few other people in that nightclub had firearms it would have saved some lives.

    I am loaded down with protection and refuse to register, because I fear the possibility of my protection being taken away. Get your head out of the gutter.
    The second amendment was before things like breach loads, semi-autos, TNT, tanks and atomic bombs. Small arms are not going to take over the country from tyrants like Locke and company had in mind two centuries ago. The ideal bows down to reality.

    Once you understand that arms control, the actual term used in the amendment, is necessary because prima facia people shouldn't have tanks and explosives, then we can have a conversation based on reality as to where the line should be drawn.

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    If laws making guns illegal stopped gun violence, then the only thing required to make people safe is laws making murder illegal.
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    The second amendment was before things like breach loads, semi-autos, TNT, tanks and atomic bombs. Small arms are not going to take over the country from tyrants like Locke and company had in mind two centuries ago. The ideal bows down to reality.

    Once you understand that arms control, the actual term used in the amendment, is necessary because prima facia people shouldn't have tanks and explosives, then we can have a conversation based on reality as to where the line should be drawn.
    The line could easily be drawn but I'm pretty sure the Democratic Party is trying to draw the line on all guns, not just heavy assaul rifles, that's not really the point because criminals don't need WMD to kill people, and small arms were for protecting property not gaining territories.

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    Imagine what making guns difficult to buy would do to gangs. Not only do they control the drug trade, but this would create a whole new avenue for them.

    Sadder part is that people only give a damn about gun violence when there's a mass shooting. 50 people die every month from gun violence in Chicago. But we've become so desensitized to that we only care when shocked by these crazy events.

    If ISIS did in fact plan this, they picked the perfect target to deflect attention - gays and guns become issues as big if not bigger than terrorists. If they bombed a school bus, peoples' attention would be focused solely on terrorism. Not to mention inflicting mass casualties by targeting a place where people were drunk and a bar that had been scoped out and likely was above capacity with doors apparently blocked off.

    The gun debate has become like the abortion debate. No give from either side, while most people are actually in the middle.

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    The second amendment was before things like breach loads, semi-autos, TNT, tanks and atomic bombs. Small arms are not going to take over the country from tyrants like Locke and company had in mind two centuries ago. The ideal bows down to reality.

    Once you understand that arms control, the actual term used in the amendment, is necessary because prima facia people shouldn't have tanks and explosives, then we can have a conversation based on reality as to where the line should be drawn.
    Sorry, Fuzz, but that term is nowhere in the second amendment. It's one sentence.

    "A well-regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."

    The amendment says that because the government needs an army to protect the country from outside forces, the government that maintains that army will not infringe the right of the people to bear arms to any degree the people deem necessary, up to and including to protect the people from the army.

    You say I don't need a nuclear weapon to protect myself from our government. I say you don't need to change the second amendment to protect yourself from law-abiding citizens. You draw lines with private rules, city ordinances and local laws. People who don't follow those don't give a about the cons ution either.

    I'd imagine that most people will be far more interested in a conversation based on reality about where lines should be drawn with people that accurately recite and understand the text.

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    Sorry, Fuzz, but that term is nowhere in the second amendment. It's one sentence.

    "A well-regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."

    The amendment says that because the government needs an army to protect the country from outside forces, the government that maintains that army will not infringe the right of the people to bear arms to any degree the people deem necessary, up to and including to protect the people from the army.

    You say I don't need a nuclear weapon to protect myself from our government. I say you don't need to change the second amendment to protect yourself from law-abiding citizens. You draw lines with private rules, city ordinances and local laws. People who don't follow those don't give a about the cons ution either.

    I'd imagine that most people will be far more interested in a conversation based on reality about where lines should be drawn with people that accurately recite and understand the text.
    The word 'arm' is used not guns. Arms include bombs and tanks.

    Try again.
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    The line could easily be drawn but I'm pretty sure the Democratic Party is trying to draw the line on all guns, not just heavy assaul rifles, that's not really the point because criminals don't need WMD to kill people, and small arms were for protecting property not gaining territories.
    Then you look at the legislation that has been attempted to be passed.

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    Imagine what making guns difficult to buy would do to gangs. Not only do they control the drug trade, but this would create a whole new avenue for them.

    Sadder part is that people only give a damn about gun violence when there's a mass shooting. 50 people die every month from gun violence in Chicago. But we've become so desensitized to that we only care when shocked by these crazy events.

    If ISIS did in fact plan this, they picked the perfect target to deflect attention - gays and guns become issues as big if not bigger than terrorists. If they bombed a school bus, peoples' attention would be focused solely on terrorism. Not to mention inflicting mass casualties by targeting a place where people were drunk and a bar that had been scoped out and likely was above capacity with doors apparently blocked off.

    The gun debate has become like the abortion debate. No give from either side, while most people are actually in the middle.
    The gangs in Chicago where the gun laws are strict go to the much more relaxed Gary, Indiana right across the border to buy their guns. Love these fantasy scenarios though.

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    sure but if he made us, why need to judge us? I know that that's were the devil comes in, but i think this is the weakest part of Christianity.
    Because He is a holy and just God and cannot except sin. He could have made us sinless but then we would be robots so He gave us free will to make our own decisions. However, deep down we know right from wrong because we are made in God's image and it's imprinted in our hearts. Unfortunately, many people reject God and what He did for us. Because He loves us so much, He sacrificed His son Jesus Christ for our sins so we could have eternal life. It's a free gift from God that many people won't except for a myriad of reasons.

    Matthew 7:14 King James Version (KJV)

    14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

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    Because He is a holy and just God and cannot except sin. He could have made us sinless but then we would be robots so He gave us free will to make our own decisions. However, deep down we know right from wrong because we are made in God's image and it's imprinted in our hearts. Unfortunately, many people reject God and what He did for us. Because He loves us so much, He sacrificed His son Jesus Christ for our sins so we could have eternal life. It's a free gift from God that many people won't except for a myriad of reasons.

    Matthew 7:14 King James Version (KJV)

    14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
    Amen

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