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    Thar ARMALITE AR-15 was a variation of the Stoner ARMALITE AR-10. Both were SELECT FIRE, meaning they were capable of full auto fire. When Colt bought the Patent in 1959 they changed the name of to the M-16 when they sold it to the Military. until that point they were all full automatic capable.

    When Colt introduced the civilian version of the COLT AR-!5 for the public it was not select fire and was SEMI AUTOMATIC ONLY.

    The COLT AR-15 is the one everyone talks about that is available to the public, not the Stoner/Armalite select fire one.

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    Noor Mateen was with her husband when he recently bought ammunition and a holster, sources familiar to the investigation told ABC News. The couple had recently went to the Disney World area together, though authorities are unclear if it was a family trip or if Mateen was there to case a possible target location, the source said.

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    Thar ARMALITE AR-15 was a variation of the Stoner ARMALITE AR-10. Both were SELECT FIRE, meaning they were capable of full auto fire. When Colt bought the Patent in 1959 they changed the name of to the M-16 when they sold it to the Military. until that point they were all full automatic capable.

    When Colt introduced the civilian version of the COLT AR-!5 for the public it was not select fire and was SEMI AUTOMATIC ONLY.

    The COLT AR-15 is the one everyone talks about that is available to the public, not the Stoner/Armalite select fire one.
    Now you are getting into the semantic obfuscation game that the gun industry developed to cir vent gun laws. And dumbass I anticipated your argument already. Read the next post, pedobear.

    The AR-15s sold to the public are the ones with modifications to make it extremely difficult to change the part making it automatic. Everything else is the same. It's like saying putting a governor chip in a car changes what model of car it is. You can quote all the echo chamber bull you like. The AR-15 was developed for the US armed services plain and simple.

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    Now you are getting into the semantic obfuscation game that the gun industry developed to cir vent gun laws. And dumbass I anticipated your argument already. Read the next post, pedobear.

    The AR-15s sold to the public are the ones with modifications to make it extremely difficult to change the part making it automatic. Everything else is the same. It's like saying putting a governor chip in a car changes what model of car it is. You can quote all the echo chamber bull you like. The AR-15 was developed for the US armed services plain and simple.
    Your car analogy sucks.

    It's like saying a Camaro with a 6 cylinder is just as fast as a Z-28.

    yeah the M-16 was modified from the Armalite AR-15 and developed for the military after Colt bought the Armalite patent. No argument there. All were select fire, full auto capable firearms.

    BTW, they are easy to modify to full auto, it's just not legal anymore.

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    BTW, they are easy to modify to full auto, it's just not legal anymore.
    gun fellators don't let no govt come between them and their penis proxies.

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    Your car analogy sucks.

    It's like saying a Camaro with a 6 cylinder is just as fast as a Z-28.

    yeah the M-16 was modified from the Armalite AR-15 and developed for the military after Colt bought the Armalite patent. No argument there. All were select fire, full auto capable firearms.

    BTW, they are easy to modify to full auto, it's just not legal anymore.
    I siad it would change the model, dimwit, not speed. It's called a modification of the same carbine, dumbass.

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    I siad it would change the model, dimwit, not speed. It's called a modification of the same carbine, dumbass.
    yeah Colts modification was to take a full auto weapon (the M-16) and introduce a legal semi-auto version (the Colt AR-15) for the civilian market... dumbass. So not the same AR-15 that Armalite built.

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    The US military were marketed the AR-15, bought it, and then renamed it the M-16, dimwit. They then modified it to skirt various gun laws in the 1980s to sell to the public. But you have fun playing the obfuscating semantics.
    The M16 is a military adaptation of the AR15, no government has ever issued the AR15 to their military. And the AR15 was actually sold to civilians by Colt in the early 60's...but what do I know.

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    The M16 is a military adaptation of the AR15, no government has ever issued the AR15 to their military. And the AR15 was actually sold to civilians by Colt in the early 60's...but what do I know.
    Actually a few select fire full auto ARMALITE AR-15's were sold to some third world countries but the COLT semi automatic AR-15 (as you stated) was never issued to any governments military.

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    Leftism in action:

    The FBI reportedly cancelled its 2013 investigation into Orlando terrorist Omar Mateen after only 10 months because they viewed the terroristic threats he made as a reaction to "being marginalized because of his Muslim faith," by his coworkers.

    According to Fox News' Catherine Herridge, the revelation came during a closed door meeting with FBI Director James Comey Monday afternoon.

    "At the end of 10 months the investigation was closed with no further action. They took Mateen's statements he was trying to taunt his coworkers because he thought he was being marginalized because of his Muslim faith."

    See Something Say Nothing---Phillip Haney 15 year DHS intelligence expert speaks on exactly this type of stuff

    https://www.amazon.com/See-Something.../dp/1944229205

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    yeah Colts modification was to take a full auto weapon (the M-16) and introduce a legal semi-auto version (the Colt AR-15) for the civilian market... dumbass. So not the same AR-15 that Armalite built.
    So you agree it's a modification of the same carbine. You get tied up with names. I get tied up in what something actually is.

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    So you agree it's a modification of the same carbine. You get tied up with names. I get tied up in what something actually is.
    Well duh. Of course they look the same. The Colt AR-15 is the civilian semi auto version. pretty big modification

    Way to move the goal posts BTW

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    Well duh. Of course they look the same. The Colt AR-15 is the civilian semi auto version. pretty big modification

    Way to move the goal posts BTW
    Who said anything about how it looks? The ar-15 was designed to be modular in the first place. And the result is significant particularly legally but the actual modification to make it full auto as you yourself say is not.

    That is the point I'm actually making while you are waving your hands at naming conventions used to get around gun laws.

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    Who said anything about how it looks? The ar-15 was designed to be modular in the first place. And the result is significant particularly legally but the actual modification to make it full auto as you yourself say is not.

    That is the point I'm actually making while you are waving your hands at naming conventions used to get around gun laws.
    Your point was the AR15 was an effective combat weapon, which it's not as no military put it in use. Had you said the M16 was an effective combat weapon we wouldn't be having this discussion.

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    For the record I no longer own any version of the AR-15. Back in the early 80's I built an M-16 out of surplus army parts. The government auctioned all the parts to the public (except the lower receiver) after Vietnam wound down. i bought two aftermarket lower receivers and machined an auto-sear into one and registered it so I could switch back and forth. it was fun as when I was buying ammo for 7 cents a round. it only cost me about $350 to build plus the $200 registry.. After '86 you couldn't do that anymore and my $350 gun was suddenly worth $5000. I wish I had built 100. By that time ammo had skyrocketed and it was no longer fun to shoot anyway. At one point green tip was going for $1 a round. It wasn't nearly as fun to rip off a 20 round magazine. A guy offered me a very thick stack of hundred dollar bills and we legally transferred it and made him the happy owner of an M-16.

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    Your point was the AR15 was an effective combat weapon, which it's not as no military put it in use. Had you said the M16 was an effective combat weapon we wouldn't be having this discussion.
    An M16 is a type AR-15. That is my point too. You have trouble articulating your own arguments; you should focus more on that.

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    An M16 is a type AR-15. That is my point too. You have trouble articulating your own arguments; you should focus more on that.
    I've articulated very clearly, you're just too stubborn to take your licks and move on. An AR15 is not an effective combat weapon, hence the reason militaries around the world don't put it in to combat. Back on ignore you go. Click.

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    Omar Mateen was an insane repressed sexual who was drawn to radical Islamic terrorist rhetoric online that told him sexuality should be punished by death, and he used a weapon capable of killing dozens of people with a few easy movements of his index finger to carry out this punishment in the hopes of getting their attention and validating himself.

    You're all correct and you're all wrong at the same time.

    Stop ing cheerleading for your pet cause and be reasonable ing people. Jesus.

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    I've articulated very clearly, you're just too stubborn to take your licks and move on. An AR15 is not an effective combat weapon, hence the reason militaries around the world don't put it in to combat. Back on ignore you go. Click.
    You repeat yourself ad nauseum and do not acknowledge rebuttals. You are another of the Darren ilk.

    Militaries around the world want the fully auto version of the AR-15 aka the M16. That does not preclude the M16 from being a different version of the same carbine. You still really suck at deductions.

    Further just because there are better weapons would not mean that a semiauto AR-15 wouldn't be effective in combat. Orlando proves it can kill a whole bunch of people in a short period of time and as Patton says the objective of war is to get the other sob to die for his country.

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    You repeat yourself ad nauseum and do not acknowledge rebuttals. You are another of the Darren ilk.
    Rent paid.

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    He was more angry at me than he was at the shooter, and many people said that. One of the folks on television said, ‘Boy, has Trump gotten under his skin,'” said Trump at a rally in Greensboro, North Carolina



    Trump is like a child on ST
    "Nah, nah, I got you" says the possible leader of the most influential country on Earth.

    Christ...

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    Apparently the shooters wife knew he was going to go on a killing spree. Instead of reporting it she "tried to talk him out of it"

    My ass
    I am sure the families of the victims appreciate her candor.

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    Apparently the shooters wife knew he was going to go on a killing spree. Instead of reporting it she "tried to talk him out of it"

    My ass
    She hot though. Cucking was probably one thing that led to all that anger

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    The FBI reportedly cancelled its 2013 investigation into Orlando terrorist Omar Mateen after only 10 months because they viewed the terroristic threats he made as a reaction to "being marginalized because of his Muslim faith," by his coworkers.

    According to Fox News' Catherine Herridge, the revelation came during a closed door meeting with FBI Director James Comey Monday afternoon.

    "At the end of 10 months the investigation was closed with no further action. They took Mateen's statements he was trying to taunt his coworkers because he thought he was being marginalized because of his Muslim faith."

    It's all about being PC, ing pathetic.

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    Apparently the enriching Afghan was a registered Democrat. lol

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