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    With Bulls blowing things up, and if we lose out on any big names (likely), why not consider trading a package around Diaw for Gibson. Salary are close.
    Mentioned that trade in another thread. CBS Sports' Zach Harper mentioned that the Bulls may decide to move him. Diaw is about $2 million cheaper, though has an extra year on his deal.

    Gibson is a better player at this point. Diaw has fallen off he is a below average mid range shooter, he does shoot around average from 3pt he does not take enough to really be a threat. Would make that deal in a heartbeat

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    Mentioned that trade in another thread. CBS Sports' Zach Harper mentioned that the Bulls may decide to move him. Diaw is about $2 million cheaper, though has an extra year on his deal.

    Gibson is a better player at this point. Diaw has fallen off he is a below average mid range shooter, he does shoot around average from 3pt he does not take enough to really be a threat. Would make that deal in a heartbeat

    Diaws pump fakes are world class though.

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    Spurs need an infusion on young talent even if it means taking a step back in the short term. Moving Mills for the potential to draft Prince is a smart move IMO. GSW has loaded up on long wing players that can play and guard multiple positions, Prince can do that. Many of the Spurs recent picks fit that mold of long and tall and or athletic perimeter players (Leonard, LJC, Bertans, Anderson).

    Makes more sense if the Spurs know that Duncan and Manu are back for one more year but I would make that move anyway.

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    Lets get that #3 from boston tbh
    The only player on the spurs roster that Boston would be willing to trade the third pick in the draft for is Leonard and the spurs would never do that trade.

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    The only player on the spurs roster that Boston would be willing to trade the third pick in the draft for is Leonard and the spurs would never do that trade.
    They might go for green. He fits what they want and need.

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    Number one priority is to stash another euro overseas

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    They might go for green. He fits what they want and need.
    Boston mifgt be willing to give one of their other picks for green but I don't think they would give up the 3rd pick in the draft for him.

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    Boston mifgt be willing to give one of their other picks for green but I don't think they would give up the 3rd pick in the draft for him.
    Yeah I agree. See if they would give up 16.

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    Yeah I agree. See if they would give up 16.
    Would be nice if the Spurs were able to trade up and get a pic that high and hopefully get a player to help right away instead of the draft and stash of a player that we might see in a Spurs uniform in the year 2020.

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    Diaws pump fakes are world class though.
    Sure but teams are probably going to realize that he can't actually shoot from outside of the paint and dare him to start making shots. He is still very effective inside of the paint but his role has been as a floor spacer who can occasionally work in the post and serve as a secondary play maker. He has shot better in the playoffs but he been a below average shooter for the past three seasons from mid range. Diaw is still versatile on defense but I would probably choose West over him when taking into account price.

    .389 11-22 FT 13-14 22.6 % Of his shots
    .379 11-22 FT 14-15 16.3% Of his shots
    .332 11-22 FT 15-16 14.9% Of his shots
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    .366 FG % 17.9 % of FGs

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    .346 11-22 FT 13-14 16.2% Of his shots
    .500 11-22 FT 14-15 22.6% Of his shots
    .375 11-22 FT 15-16 17.4% Of his shots
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    .407 FG % 18.73% of FGs

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    I am literally bursting with excitement for the draft. Man, next week can't come soon enough.

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    Mentioned the possibility of a Mills for 26th pick earlier. More far fetched would be a Mills + Diaw and the 29th for the 24th and 26th pick. Philly is trying to play like an actual NBA team and adding to actual NBA caliber players would go a long way. They are way below the cap so they could absorb the $11.5 million after July 1st.

    Spurs could take a flyer on Thon Maker and should still be able to take Tauren Prince. Spurs save more than $9 million while adding two prospects to the roster. Assuming the cap is $92 million, the Spurs would have $19.2 million to spend (assuming Duncan, and Manu are back, David West is not included in that figure. Spurs could have $25.6 million in cap if Duncan retires.

    PG- Parker
    SG-Green, Manu, Simmons
    SF-Leonard, Anderson, Prince, Bertans
    PF- LMA, West (Room exception), Anderson
    C- Duncan, Boban, Maker

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    I am literally bursting with excitement for the draft. Man, next week can't come soon enough.
    Think of all the positions and players that make the most sense... Now pick the exact opposite.

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    PG- Parker
    SG-Green, Manu, Simmons
    SF-Leonard, Anderson, Prince, Bertans
    PF- LMA, West (Room exception), Anderson
    C- Duncan, Boban, Maker
    basically my ideal scenario, but would add De Colo as pg backup

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    Think of all the positions and players that make the most sense... Now pick the exact opposite.
    EVERY.SINGLE.YEAR

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    The one year I pick an american player i get criticized. Never happening again.

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    The one year I pick an american player i get criticized. Never happening again.

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    basically my ideal scenario, but would add De Colo as pg backup
    In that scenario Spurs could have enough for Conley and Parker would be the backup PG or maybe they pursue Horford if Duncan retires.

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    What's interesting to me with with West already opting out (nothing we can really read from that), Manu has his opt out date of June 22nd.

    That is one day before the draft. So Spurs will know what West/Manu are going to do before the draft, but Tim(opt out)/Boris(contract guarantee) are after the draft on 6/29 & 6/30 respectively.

    One would think that either way, especially with Tim, that he would do them the courtesy of letting them know (at least privately if not publicly) what he's doing so they can plan for the draft accordingly. Wonder if what Manu does will be a clue as to what Tim is doing?

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    What's interesting to me with with West already opting out (nothing we can really read from that), Manu has his opt out date of June 22nd.

    That is one day before the draft. So Spurs will know what West/Manu are going to do before the draft, but Tim(opt out)/Boris(contract guarantee) are after the draft on 6/29 & 6/30 respectively.

    One would think that either way, especially with Tim, that he would do them the courtesy of letting them know (at least privately if not publicly) what he's doing so they can plan for the draft accordingly. Wonder if what Manu does will be a clue as to what Tim is doing?
    I think they can draft regardless of what these vets are doing. The draftee is going to be chosen IMO with Leonard and Aldridge in mind not Tim, Manu, or even Diaw. For draft purposes it matters not. They probably have their list of potential players they want looking to a future that doesn't include them anyways. Call it like this, if they decide to return that's just bonus. The draftee is unlikely to coexist or coincide with their careers much or at all anyways.

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    I think they can draft regardless of what these vets are doing. The draftee is going to be chosen IMO with Leonard and Aldridge in mind not Tim, Manu, or even Diaw. For draft purposes it matters not. They probably have their list of potential players they want looking to a future that doesn't include them anyways. Call it like this, if they decide to return that's just bonus. The draftee is unlikely to coexist or coincide with their careers much or at all anyways.
    Well, I was more referring to trades etc..If Tim is staying and they won't have cap space, maybe they keep Boris. If Tim is gone and Manu, they now have definite needs and may look to move Boris during the draft, elect to go the cap space route (which might mean a stash vs player that contributes today)etc..

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    Mentioned the possibility of a Mills for 26th pick earlier. More far fetched would be a Mills + Diaw and the 29th for the 24th and 26th pick. Philly is trying to play like an actual NBA team and adding to actual NBA caliber players would go a long way. They are way below the cap so they could absorb the $11.5 million after July 1st.

    Spurs could take a flyer on Thon Maker and should still be able to take Tauren Prince. Spurs save more than $9 million while adding two prospects to the roster. Assuming the cap is $92 million, the Spurs would have $19.2 million to spend (assuming Duncan, and Manu are back, David West is not included in that figure. Spurs could have $25.6 million in cap if Duncan retires.

    PG- Parker
    SG-Green, Manu, Simmons
    SF-Leonard, Anderson, Prince, Bertans
    PF- LMA, West (Room exception), Anderson
    C- Duncan, Boban, Maker
    Getting 2 higher first round picks while jettisoning some weight will be ideal, but I don't think the Spurs will pick a skinny big man with no feel for the game and another wing who can't offer something different from what Kawhi and Danny are already providing, especially when the lack of playmaking to set up LMA and Kawhi remains an urgent need to be addressed.

    The Spurs are likely to pick one or two long versatile wings who can play positions 1 to 3 (i.e. Denzel Valentine, Deandre Bembry and Malcolm Brogdon). Quality big men are likely gone when picking in the 20s, unless the Spurs are willing to take a chance on Perdue's "poor man's Tim Duncan."

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    The Utah Jazz are said to have the 12th pick on the trade market and may have a trade partner in the San Antonio Spurs if the right players start to fall into that range. When you factor in the friendly nature of the Spurs fraternity and the Jazz’s desire to add veterans, doing a deal with San Antonio becomes interesting – especially if it yields a decent roster player. The Jazz have worked out a few players, so it’s not out of the realm of possibility that they keep the pick if the Spurs’ wish list does not materialize. The 12 spot is believed to be Gonzaga’s Domantas Sabonis’ floor and could be the ceiling for Vanderbilt’s Wade Baldwin, although the Sacramento Kings just got Baldwin in for a workout so that could change.
    http://www.basketballinsiders.com/2016-nba-mock-draft-consensus-ver-6-0/

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    . Utah does need a starting PG and a backup PF since Booker is a free agent....

    It's probably going to be Parker + Diaw + 29th for the 12th pick. They'll be on the same team as Gobert.

    They have 4 point guards that aren't starter material in Exum, Burke, Neto, and Mack so one of them would most likely be in the trade.

    Gobert/Withey
    Favors/Diaw
    Hayward/Lyles/Ingles
    Burks/Hood
    Parker/Exum/Neto/Burke/Mack

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    really, really hope we become stronger this offseason.....

    if Parker is our weakness, the Spurs management should trade him.....

    be strong, bite the bullet, trade Parker, and begin again.....

    COURAGE PLS!

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