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    . Utah does need a starting PG and a backup PF since Booker is a free agent....

    It's probably going to be Parker + Diaw + 29th for the 12th pick. They'll be on the same team as Gobert.

    They have 4 point guards that aren't starter material in Exum, Burke, Neto, and Mack so one of them would most likely be in the trade.

    Gobert/Withey
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    Hayward/Lyles/Ingles
    Burks/Hood
    Parker/Exum/Neto/Burke/Mack
    Lyles is more of a 4 than a 3. And will get most of his minutes there.

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    Give them Tony Parker, Patty Mills, Boris Diaw, and the rights to Deshaun Thomas for the 12th pick, the 42nd pick in the second round, and Alec Burks. They still have the 52nd pick and the last pick in the draft.

    Getting Burks makes Danny Green expendable. Trade him to boston for the 16th pick.

    Then with 12 and 16 take the vandy teammates Wayne Baldwin PG and Damian Jones C. At 29 take one of the SG sitting there Malachai Richardson of syracuse, Malik Beasley of florida state, or Patrick Mccaw of UNLV. Then at 42 take your back up PG Isaiah Whitehead of seton hall.

    Obviously a FA PG will be brought in. Maybe that kid that is playing in Europe, Darius Adams.

    PG- Baldwin, Adams, Whitehead
    SG- Burks, Draft, Simmons/Hanga
    SF- Leonard, Bertans
    PF- LMA, Anderson, Lalanne
    C- Jones, Boban, Ndoye

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    Thon Maker

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    Give them Tony Parker, Patty Mills, Boris Diaw, and the rights to Deshaun Thomas for the 12th pick, the 42nd pick in the second round, and Alec Burks. They still have the 52nd pick and the last pick in the draft.

    Getting Burks makes Danny Green expendable. Trade him to boston for the 16th pick.

    Then with 12 and 16 take the vandy teammates Wayne Baldwin PG and Damian Jones C. At 29 take one of the SG sitting there Malachai Richardson of syracuse, Malik Beasley of florida state, or Patrick Mccaw of UNLV. Then at 42 take your back up PG Isaiah Whitehead of seton hall.

    Obviously a FA PG will be brought in. Maybe that kid that is playing in Europe, Darius Adams.

    PG- Baldwin, Adams, Whitehead
    SG- Burks, Draft, Simmons/Hanga
    SF- Leonard, Bertans
    PF- LMA, Anderson, Lalanne
    C- Jones, Boban, Ndoye

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    Draft and stash, dude needs to put on some muscle

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    Getting 2 higher first round picks while jettisoning some weight will be ideal, but I don't think the Spurs will pick a skinny big man with no feel for the game and another wing who can't offer something different from what Kawhi and Danny are already providing, especially when the lack of playmaking to set up LMA and Kawhi remains an urgent need to be addressed.

    The Spurs are likely to pick one or two long versatile wings who can play positions 1 to 3 (i.e. Denzel Valentine, Deandre Bembry and Malcolm Brogdon). Quality big men are likely gone when picking in the 20s, unless the Spurs are willing to take a chance on Perdue's "poor man's Tim Duncan."
    I highly doubt Maker will play C in the NBA, guy needs to put on some muscle and play the 3.

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    Draft and stash, dude needs to put on some muscle
    Draft and send him to the League to develop properly

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    . Utah does need a starting PG and a backup PF since Booker is a free agent....

    It's probably going to be Parker + Diaw + 29th for the 12th pick. They'll be on the same team as Gobert.

    They have 4 point guards that aren't starter material in Exum, Burke, Neto, and Mack so one of them would most likely be in the trade.

    Gobert/Withey
    Favors/Diaw
    Hayward/Lyles/Ingles
    Burks/Hood
    Parker/Exum/Neto/Burke/Mack
    More likely to be Diaw and 29 for 12. They're not trading TP.

    If it was the deal you suggested, I'd try to grab Exum. Kid wasn't a lottery pick for nothing - he's already a solid defender, has length and shown flashes of offensive talent. He could be a really good PG in 2017-18 and would be a perfect fit. It'd be even better if we could find a way to grab him while keeping Tony as a mentor.

    And if we don't trade up, have to take Maker at 29 if he's available. Kid will be a killer combo F in about 4 years.

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    Give them Tony Parker, Patty Mills, Boris Diaw, and the rights to Deshaun Thomas for the 12th pick, the 42nd pick in the second round, and Alec Burks. They still have the 52nd pick and the last pick in the draft.

    Getting Burks makes Danny Green expendable. Trade him to boston for the 16th pick.

    Then with 12 and 16 take the vandy teammates Wayne Baldwin PG and Damian Jones C. At 29 take one of the SG sitting there Malachai Richardson of syracuse, Malik Beasley of florida state, or Patrick Mccaw of UNLV. Then at 42 take your back up PG Isaiah Whitehead of seton hall.

    Obviously a FA PG will be brought in. Maybe that kid that is playing in Europe, Darius Adams.

    PG- Baldwin, Adams, Whitehead
    SG- Burks, Draft, Simmons/Hanga
    SF- Leonard, Bertans
    PF- LMA, Anderson, Lalanne
    C- Jones, Boban, Ndoye
    Don't see this happening. Way too much youth all at once. Much better to drip feed them in.

    Also, Burks is nowhere near the defender Danny is. I wouldn't part with him lightly, especially on that great contact.

    Admirable creativity on your part though.

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    Patty Mills an Tony Parker both are not being traded.... Thats getting rid of 2 players that knows an can run your offense. Thats taking steps back, not forward. Some of you guys post unthinkable stupid .

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    Jazz is not trading 12 to Diaw + 29

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    Patty Mills an Tony Parker both are not being traded.... Thats getting rid of 2 players that knows an can run your offense. Thats taking steps back, not forward. Some of you guys post unthinkable stupid .
    Mills is the most likely to get moved in my opinion, his contract is ridiculously cheap he has championship experience and is an excellent shooter at PG. Spurs need youth, moving Mills for an extra pick makes plenty of sense even if it means that they have worse depth at PG for 1 season. Given the Spurs track record at finding talent late in the first and second round, (Joseph, Splitter, Hill, Blair, Parker, Manu,) I would hope that they attempt to acquire a second 1st rounder.

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    Mills is not being traded. ing dumbasses

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    Your only 3 point shooting PG. Who can space the floor as much as Mills and Green?

    Kawhi can too but being the primary ball handler in certain situations, he'll have a harder time shooting 3s in the playoffs.

    Patty played OK but he was playing with Dwest, Fathead, Fatdiaw, and Old Manu. His 10 points on 10 shots is already better than those other guys shooting.

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    Getting 2 higher first round picks while jettisoning some weight will be ideal, but I don't think the Spurs will pick a skinny big man with no feel for the game and another wing who can't offer something different from what Kawhi and Danny are already providing, especially when the lack of playmaking to set up LMA and Kawhi remains an urgent need to be addressed.

    The Spurs are likely to pick one or two long versatile wings who can play positions 1 to 3 (i.e. Denzel Valentine, Deandre Bembry and Malcolm Brogdon). Quality big men are likely gone when picking in the 20s, unless the Spurs are willing to take a chance on Perdue's "poor man's Tim Duncan."
    I think that this is a front court heavy draft, on the back end of the first round at least. I like the idea of Prince because he sounds as though he has all of the tools and skill needed to be a 3 & D player, not only that but he is athletic, big (6'7 1/2), long (6'11 1/2) and can possibly defend multiple positions.

    Another component is Kyle Anderson, do the Spurs view him as a SF or PF or a combo? I have heard that they envision him as more of a four, that may not happen very much next season assuming West is back save for smallish ball lineups ( I hope KA can show improvement from 3pt either way) but going forward the Spurs could have a rotation consisting of Green and Leonard on the starting wing and Prince and Anderson at the backup 3 & 4. GSW has a ton of length and size on the perimeter, adding Prince and Bertans could help the Spurs compete in that regard, the Spurs could always use more play making but I doubt that they could find someone who can help this season in this draft anyway. In this scenario the Spurs could carve out $19.2-$25.5 million in cap ($19.2 if Duncan and Manu stay on and the other number if only Duncan retires) Spurs could use that money to address the play making issues that they have.

    Maker is the definition of a boom or bust player, if he were to fall to 29 I could see the Spurs taking a shot at him but Zimmerman and Corneille would be more preferable both are athletic bigs that seem to have consistent range outside of the paint. Zimmerman sounds more close to being able to contribute to an NBA team even though he is only 19. Spurs could ease him into a rotation role over the next couple of seasons. Sounds like he is fairly solid all while Corneille could be a two years away from being worthy of a roster spot but seems to have nice potential.

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    Patty wasn't playing with talent out there and he didn't wanna take over because Pop was probably telling him to play with the team instead of looking for his. Instead you get Dwest 1/6, Fatdiaw 2/6 shooting.

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    Your only 3 point shooting PG. Who can space the floor as much as Mills and Green?

    Kawhi can too but being the primary ball handler in certain situations, he'll have a harder time shooting 3s in the playoffs.

    Patty played OK but he was playing with Dwest, Fathead, Fatdiaw, and Old Manu. His 10 points on 10 shots is already better than those other guys shooting.
    No one is saying that Mills sucks, I suggest you look at my trade scenario involving the Sixers. In the trade I suggested it would not only save the Spurs $9.5 million but it would give them the 24th and 26th picks and between $19.2 and $25.5 million in cap space so they could sign another PG such as Conley.

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    No one is saying that Mills sucks, I suggest you look at my trade scenario involving the Sixers. In the trade I suggested it would not only save the Spurs $9.5 million but it would give them the 24th and 26th picks and between $19.2 and $25.5 million in cap space so they could sign another PG such as Conley.
    Mills has 1 more year on his deal. Why would teams want a 1 year rental?

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    After careful consideration of all things we will be standing pat.. Ever heard of Fijefio Darmokaor? Exactly.

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    Paty mills is young and can get streaky. For his price would be dumb to trade him. we should bring back the same team and find someone young that can play the 4 and 5 that can score and can rebound & play defense decently. Im starting to think that noah from the bulls is the most realistic option. Conley is slow and will be 30. Would be a disaster signing him. This team won 67 games man and was a last second shot away from going 7. Just need minor younger upgrades. Kawhi is getting better & better.

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    Patty Mills an Tony Parker both are not being traded.... Thats getting rid of 2 players that knows an can run your offense. Thats taking steps back, not forward. Some of you guys post unthinkable stupid .
    Patty Mills can't run the offense. That is why he had to play with Manu. He needs a ball handler and distributor with him.

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    Don't see this happening. Way too much youth all at once. Much better to drip feed them in.

    Also, Burks is nowhere near the defender Danny is. I wouldn't part with him lightly, especially on that great contact.

    Admirable creativity on your part though.
    Burks is right on par with Danny defensively. Burke also brings ball handling and ability to finish around the rim. He also is a good distributor.
    Last edited by palangi; 06-16-2016 at 01:39 PM.

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    Patty doesn't need anyone to go lights out by himself. Maybe have some respectable players on the floor so he isn't the focus of the defense.

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    Mills and Parker are not moving. Parker's big salary becomes less a distraction in the age of mega money. Parker needs lots of rest, so you need to have a quality PG coming off the bench. In fact, once Manu retires, Parker may be the PG coming off the bench. The only thing left is finding that PG of the future. The only quality trade chip is Danny Green. Whoever, they get will need to be able to play some SG too, if Green is moved. Then the question switches to how much greater role could Simmons play, and who would they get to play SG/SF minutes.
    Too many, variables. The safe route is to stand pat and take one of the PGs with potential at the end of the round, like Barber or Baldwin.

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