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    No, Kawhi is not better then LeBron, but he's clearly the best defender in the league. Andre Iguodala and Draymond Green on the same team don't equal 1 Kawhi.

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    Iggy looks pretty shook but Kawhi defends Lebron better than almost anyone else in the league. It also helps that James has to cover Kawhi defensively which makes him work on both ends.

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    Lebron needs to sub himself out for breathers.

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    No Bogut helps, too. The best aspects of both Kawhi's and Green's man defense is that they knew how to work with Duncan (and Splitter earlier on) to stymie their man. When you have lesser players behind you, you just can't do the same things up front.

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    No Bogut helps, too. The best aspects of both Kawhi's and Green's man defense is that they knew how to work with Duncan (and Splitter earlier on) to stymie their man. When you have lesser players behind you, you just can't do the same things up front.
    True enough...

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    Iguodala did a pretty damn great job on LeBron in Games 1-4 (and last year as well). LeBron's jumper happened to come back though, and when he's hitting his jumpers, he's basically impossible to guard. Spurs guarded LeBron basically the same way all throughout the 2013 Finals, but in Games 6/7 he exploded because he started knocking down his jumpers.

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    Lebron James 2013 stats:
    25.3ppg, 10.9rpg, 7.0apg, 2.3spg, 44.7FG%, 35.3 3P%

    Lebron James 2014 stats:
    28.2ppg, 7.8rpg, 4.0apg, 2.0spg, 57.1FG%, 51.9 3P%

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    Lebron James 2013 stats:
    25.3ppg, 10.9rpg, 7.0apg, 2.3spg, 44.7FG%, 35.3 3P%

    Lebron James 2014 stats:
    28.2ppg, 7.8rpg, 4.0apg, 2.0spg, 57.1FG%, 51.9 3P%
    He also had as many assist as turnovers that 2014 series and I remember him only scoring after he was blown out.

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    Spurs beat the Heat in 2014 because everyone else was contained. Not Lebron

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    Spurs beat the Heat in 2014 because everyone else was contained. Not Lebron
    Spurs beat the heat because they had the best player on the planet.

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    Spurs beat the heat because they had the best player on the planet.
    The best player on the planet didn't even outscore Tony Parker in the Finals

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    The best player on the planet didn't even outscore Tony Parker in the Finals
    Tony shamelessly stat padding when it was blown out already. 0-13 Early on.

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    Close out game and Tony showing his true colors.

    Kawhi had to carry a bag back then too.

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    Tony shamelessly stat padding when it was blown out already. 0-13 Early on.
    Didn't outscore Tony Parker and let Lebron go off

    Pity FMVP award like the one Iggy got tbh

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    Didn't outscore Tony Parker and let Lebron go off

    Pity FMVP award like the one Iggy got tbh
    Kawhi actually out dueled Lebron.

    Getting one against boobie.

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    Lebron James 2014 finals stats:
    28.2ppg, 7.8rpg, 4.0apg, 2.0spg, 57.1FG%, 51.9 3P%

    Kawhi Leonard 2014 finals stats:
    17.8ppg, 6.4rpg, 2.0apg, 1.6spg, 61.2FG%, 57.9 3P%

    "duel"

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    Lebron James 2014 finals stats:
    28.2ppg, 7.8rpg, 4.0apg, 2.0spg, 57.1FG%, 51.9 3P%

    Kawhi Leonard 2014 finals stats:
    17.8ppg, 6.4rpg, 2.0apg, 1.6spg, 61.2FG%, 57.9 3P%

    "duel"
    He raped him 3 of the last 3 games at the biggest stage and shot like .70TS%.

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    He stat padded in blowouts and turn it over just as much as assists.

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    And ancient history...........never has an fmvp been stretched so far. Not like that 2007 edition. That one is a award.

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    Draymond also making idiots out of everybody that thought he was better than Kawhi. Scared to shoot, can't dribble by bigs, can't score on RJ or Waiters, etc.

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    No Bogut helps, too. The best aspects of both Kawhi's and Green's man defense is that they knew how to work with Duncan (and Splitter earlier on) to stymie their man. When you have lesser players behind you, you just can't do the same things up front.
    Paul George made All-NBA Defense 2nd team over Kawhi & still got raped by LeBron even w/ the Roy "LeBron Stopper" Hibbert playing like a beast in that series: http://www.basketball-reference.com/...s-vs-heat.html

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    Lebron James 2014 finals stats:
    28.2ppg, 7.8rpg, 4.0apg, 2.0spg, 57.1FG%, 51.9 3P%

    Kawhi Leonard 2014 finals stats:
    17.8ppg, 6.4rpg, 2.0apg, 1.6spg, 61.2FG%, 57.9 3P%

    "duel"

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    He also had as many assist as turnovers that 2014 series and I remember him only scoring after he was blown out.
    Kawhi went to the Kang's palace & punched him in the mouth when the series was tied 1-1.

    Peak LeBron held to 8 pts/7 TOs in the last 3 quarter of a Finals game:




    Kawhi gave him that work on the other end:



    Meanwhile Barnes is shooting 2-22 & tail-end-of-prime Bron is dropping 40 on Iggy/Draymond.

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    Kawhi's not showing anything at the moment. I haven't seen him since the Spurs were bounced in the second round. Hasn't been past the second round in 2 years.

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    Kawhi's not showing anything at the moment. I haven't seen him since the Spurs were bounced in the second round. Hasn't been past the second round in 2 years.
    French got.

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