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West?
bleacherreport.com/articles/2647052-nbas-salary-cap-for-2016-17-season-reportedly-rises-to-94-million
Great news. Spurs have $85.05 million committed to 11 players, 12 if they use their first rounder. If the report is true then the Spurs could have $8 million in cap space. If Duncan does retire then the Spurs could have $13.4 million to go after an FA. They could then fill out their roster with Bertans and West after using up the cap space.
Last edited by cd021; 06-18-2016 at 02:08 PM.
West?
They need another playmaking PG or SG, a competent big and at least 1 more shooter..serious holes..
Kyle has a lot of roles to fill this season
Does Harlem no see Fathead can fill out the PG and SG positions with ease?
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It sounds like Tim is retiring, and with him Manu probably walks too. That leaves the Spurs salary commitments looking like
Aldrdige: $20.575M
Leonard: $17.638M
Parker: $14.445M
Green: $10.000M
Mills: $3.2000M
Diaw: $3.000M buyout
Anderson: $1.192M
6 roster spots under 12: $3.261M
TOTAL $73.311M
CAPSPACE: $20.7M
With Durant's max being $26.4 million they could actually clear the salary cap space to make a run at him with just Diaw, Mills, and Anderson salary dumps.
Some teams may struggle to get to the minimum and will take on a few over paid contracts that do not have too many years left. Just saying.
If Tim and Manu opt out but decide to re-sign for the minimum what is that price tag?
Bertans solves the shooter issue. Milutinov if he does well in Summer league takes Boban's place and Boban slides into West's spot.
Just leaves the play making guard/PG. That said I think Manu comes back for one more year and they maybe see if Duncan and Manu re negotiate at an even smaller salary or extend it out and go after Mike Conley
What makes you think Duncan is retiring?
His knee injury and Harvey's article. I hope like Tim doesn't since he's irreplaceable, but it seems pretty likely.
Room exception is certainly possible for West.
West had the 4th highest P.E.R of Spurs players that played atleast 1000, minutes, which was much higher than Parker, Duncan, Greens, and Diaws.
P.E.R-17.6 (5th behind Kawhi, LMA, Manu and Boban)
Win Shares-1.84 (4th behind Kawhi, LMA, and Boban)
Net Rtg- +16 (3rd behind Leonard and Boban)
his advanced metrics were actually not awful in the PS
P.E.R-14.3
Win Shares-1.16
Net Rtg- +4
Bringing West back for the room exception (around $3 million per year over two seasons) is fine,: lol at people wanting to get rid of him because Pop put him and Diaw on the floor at the same time against an near historic rebounding team.
He is still clearly effective in a limited role off the bench, $3 million for a backup PF when the cap is at $94m and you two are complaining?
Yeah my fault i just now saw the article.His knee injury and Harvey's article. I hope like Tim doesn't since he's irreplaceable, but it seems pretty likely.
My opinion, which is worth jack , it seems like they dont know what hes going to decide.
The knee thing can be fixed with the appointment in Germany IMO. when the knee is good hes still very good as he showed when coming off that injury during the year.
Heck i'd tell him, get surgery or whatever to fix it, take your time rehabbing, and come back in February or March and get ready. Duncan is still a fantastic player and two years off of what he did in 2014. Players dont drop off a cliff talent wise without help and getting rid of the one knee pain fixes that.
Or he may not want to do it.
If he does retire, then they have a shot at Durant. If Durant doesnt come then you maybe hope Conley goes somewhere else and see if Memphis wants to rebuild and take on Gasol.
That would put it at about $16.2 million if I am not mistaken. I did not take into account Diaw, If he is cut that is another $4 million off the books putting it at $19.7 (including the roster charge).
I could see a team like NOP taking his contract if the Spurs are willing to deal. I would think that they would have interest considering they will almost certainly lose Anderson because they do not want to sink so much money into their big man rotation (at $36.1 million already for next season).
I would love it if the Spurs could swing a draft night deal for the 39th and 40th picks while shipping out Diaws entire $7 million to NOP. The deal could not go through until 7/1/16 but they could agree in principle.
An idea that I floated in the draft thread would be to move Mills, Diaw + 29th pick to Phily for the 24th and 26th picks. Even if the spurs were to draft and sign both picks that would still save the team $8.3 million that would give the Spurs about $22.2 million in cap.
with Parker, Green, Leonard, Ginobili, Anderson, Simmons, Boban, Aldridge, 24th, 26th on the books heading into FA (10 players under contract)
Last edited by cd021; 06-18-2016 at 02:08 PM.
I think Tim Duncan is going to semi-retire. Meaning he will not sign a contract until mid-season, and take a prorated contract in January, or Feb. of next year, while replacing a back of the rotation guy. No need for him to go through a whole season. Just need him for a couple of months to get ready for the playoffs. Same thing could happen to Manu.
Mills is $3,578,948
Durant is most likely staying in OKC for at least a year since they had the Duds on the canvas & he would also get a fatter contract in 2017 when he qualifies for the 10+ year vet max. PATFO going after Conley is unlikely considering they won't dump Porker thus it would be pretty dumb to commit 40 mill at PG for any duo other than Curry/Livingston.
Thus, if Tim/Manu retire I could see them going after Horford since he would slide into the starting spot & there won't be a log jam at the PF spot w/ D-Worst opting out. They could just dump Patty (since they need a PG on the roster who can ACTUALLY defend) & offer him less than the full max since there is no state income tax.
I doubt Kyle gets traded b/c of his cheap contract in an off-season where a player of his caliber would command at least the MLE. Buying out Diaw also might not be worth it since his 3 mill will still count against the cap & they won't be able to get a player of his caliber for 4 mills unless he re-signs for the vet minimum.
If they choose to go the Horford route then I hope they use the Room Exception on Mozgov instead of Boban since the former provides what the team REALLY needs: rim protection (even Miles Plumlee is a better rim protector & can actually roll). As far as backup PG, they would have to address that through the draft w/ Gary Payton II & Brogdon being viable candidates, Brogdon being more of a high IQ Pop type of guy & also has the size to guard wings. They could pickup a shooter like Troy Daniels or an undrafted player for the vet minimum to play the Gary Neal role. It looks like Bertan could also replace Bonner & provide some much needed shooting.
For this to work, Kawhi has to be given the keys to the offense (ala Paul George) & be allowed to run PnRs w/ LMA/Horford which will be difficult to guard since they both can pop all the way to the 3 point line.
LMA/Mozgov or Plumlee
Horford/Diaw/Bertans
Kawhi/Kyle
Danny/Simmons/Troy Daniels
Porker/Brogdon
If Diaw gets in shape & motivated by his contract possibly being voided in 2017 then the Spurs would have a frontline that would be unmatched to mitigate the mediocre backcourt. They can't assemble a backourt good enough to match up w/ Klay/Curry so might as well smash GayMond like OKC w/ Horford/Diaw/LMA/Kawhi.
Horford/Mozgov & a motivated Diaw should be enough to overcome OKC. Kawhi owns Queen James so no need to sweat about matching up w/ Cavs as long as the Spurs get to the Finals.
Other options are Batum/Fournier to but they would have to come off the bench which won't be enticing to a premium FA when they are in their prime. Moving Danny for Batum/Fournier wouldn't be smart since he has a bargain contract but they would command the max. Marvin Williams could be had for about 15 mill but he's more suited for a Diaw type role since he's an undersized PF. If they could get Marvin/Pau for the 20 mill then they could dump Diaw & go after Greivis Vasquez as a Manu replacement for about 7 mill. This is actually a move that's more feasible since it's going to be hard to convince Horford's agent to leave a good chunk of money on the table when he could sign a fat contract w/ the Hawks.
If they can't get Pau then Cole Aldrich should be fine sharing minutes w/ Mozgov or Miles Plumlee.
Pau or Aldrich/Mozgov or Plumlee
LMA/Marvin/Bertans
Kawhi/Kyle
Danny/Vasquez/Simmons
Porker/Brogdon
Last edited by Kawhitstorm; 06-18-2016 at 03:05 PM.
Tim doesn't seem like the kind of guy that would do that. To me I think he evaluates if he still thinks he's productive with the direction the Spurs are headed, if his body will allow him to continue to play at a decent to high level and if the Spurs need him to return. Obviously Pop will want him back, aside from being a great anchor he's an awesome contributor in terms of knowledge of the game and a great leader. It will really come down to that knee.. If only modern science could somehow rebuild both his knees to at least 75% of what they used to be, my god.
Honestly, I think he comes back for 1 more season as a quiet farewell.
People are forgetting that the Spurs would probably stretch Diaw if they waive him. That's an extra $2.4 Million.
I'm pretty sure a team like the Knicks/Nets would take him as a salary dump since they won't be a free agent destination, even the Hawks could possibly take him if they lose Horford.
Bryan Colangelo also traded for him when he was the Suns GM so the Sixers are another option.
Horford is garbage (mainly to the max)
Man, how is Kyle worth 1.1 m, I have him valued at 25,000 tops
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