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My impression is that it's the same source repeated.
Given the lack of tradable assets I doubt much comes of this..
I think he difference is that with kawhi it was him or bust. We had a specific target. Now, it's just about getting up to the board. Guys Like mills and Diaw aren't exactly dead weight, but it would be really bad management if this team didn't try to exploit the draft to get as many holes fixed at low salary points.
The spurs probably have several targets.
My impression is that it's the same source repeated.
Given the lack of tradable assets I doubt much comes of this..
I'm sure the Spurs are turning over every rock. I just don't trust it when it's being reported what they're doing. Unless it's Woj, Stein, or Aldridge maybe.
Trade Idea
Another variation of a trade I suggested earlier. Takes into account the rumored trade of Noel for Teague.
Atlanta Gets
Nerlens Noel
Boris Diaw
Philadelphia Gets
Jeff Teague
Patty Mills
29th Pick
Spurs Get
24th Pick
26th Pick
Philly drastically improves their back court.
Atlanta gets two rotation big men to help offset Horford leaving. Both Noel and Diaw are cost controlled for 16-17 and 17-18.
Spurs shed $10.5 million off the books, move up in the draft and add an extra pick in the twenties. (Should they draft and sign the picks that would only cost a total of $2.1 million)
In fairness it's hard to compare. I was 16 and it was 20 years ago (!)I will go full New York Knicks fanI will rain down boo's from the heavens.
I hope when the Spurs pick that they show me and I will do the thing where I point to my hat and mouth "I like that pick - good pick" so it seems like I know what I'm doing.
Also, even though SA didn't have a pick, how was your experience at the draft you went to?
Though it was still a big deal even back then, I think it's become an even bigger spectacle now and the NBA has done a better job of making it an event. Just the fact that it's in Barclays vs the old Brendan Byrne Arena already means it'll be more fun.
That said, I had a good time. It helped that 96 was a terrific draft. I remember sitting by a group of Nets fans who wanted nothing to do with Kobe and exploded in celebration when Kittles was announced
Commercial breaks feel long and obviously not like a game where there's constant action to focus on. Though again I think the NBA has gotten much better at this. The interviews feel somehow more awkward when you hear them in person, which is great.
If you're going solo I would bring an iPad or something just to fill any gaps, but it's also really easy to get into basketball conversations with other fans. A lot of basketball junkies around.
That's what I am hoping ^. I don't mind downtime and have no problem talking to people so hoping for some fun conversations with other teams' fans.
I will have my iPhone to keep up with trades, etc..
I bet the asking price is high. No team wants to deal with RC after the Pacer fleecing.
No one wants to get fleeced, however SA has a lot of relationships all over the league which can lead to serious conversations (that's the positive side of so many people coming from SA's tree).
I think the league is more sophisticated in their thinking. Kawhi was a luck of the draw combined with superior player development. Not all teams can turn a KL into an all star.
That trade was pretty close to fair on draft day. I don't think it really screwed the spurs and i don't think indy has blacklisted us.
I'm being facetious, but I do wonder if you are an opposing GM and you get a call from
RC whether it makes you anxious/reevaluate your scouting.
Anyway, aside from Green and a trade swap I wonder what assets the Spurs are shopping. I doubt any of the stashed players have much value other than maybe securing a marginal move within the late 20s.
I ultimately dont think TP gets moves, but with the free agent PG market being what it is I wonder if there's a chance to be opportunistic.
I pretty sure when RC calls about a pick he doesn't divulge the target player. I think he says I'll give you Boris for 26, in this hypothetical situation. I wouldn't think he'd say if player X is available when you get on the clock let's do the deal. I think pick 26 is on the clock and RC calls back saying they'd like to do the deal.
Apparently on ESPN Insider, Chad Ford thinks the Spurs should go after Chinanu Onuaku. Who do you all think the Spurs take. The Spurs do need to a defensive big.
I also wouldn't mind them going after a Parker replacement. Could be Patrick McCaw. Guy is 6'7". Could be a huge pg. Or even Demetrius Jackson, good all around pg.
Last edited by AFMadison; 06-23-2016 at 08:51 PM.
Of course he wouldn't. What I'm saying is that teams have targets on their board in their projected ranges and if RC is calling about your pick it might get in your head about your process, etc.
Burks has had multiple significant injuries in the past year and a half and has 3 years and over $30M remaining on his contract. He probably has to reprove himself before teams would have interest.
Thinking about this some more, it might be true. This is similar to '11, in that it's going to take a bold move to attempt to vault themselves back into contention.
If the Bucks don't select Baldwin, I could see a three team trade, with Teague to the Jazz, the 12th pick to the Spurs and Green and Burke to the Hawks.
Here would be the rationale on the Spurs' part:
- Baldwin would be the much needed young, talented, athletic guard, that projects to contribute some immediately, could play alongside any guard and be a long term fixture
- Getting a guard at 12 alleviates the need to do so at 29, making it easier to draft a big and between the two, it would go a ways to restocking the cup board
- They could sign Afflalo or Lee to replace Green. Sure, they're inferior defenders, but they're similar enough players
- It's unlikely they'd have to add significant salary in these two moves, freeing up the majority of the cap space for a starting center
No....
It all depends what the Spurs are offering in exchange of the pick. It's not like the Spurs are batting .1000
TD21 made a good case for trading Green imo. The only thing I don't like is going after a center. I'm not a fan of any the available centers.
Where would Green play for Utah? He's arguably not better than Hood. Why give up 12 for a bench player?
Green would go to the Hawks in that scenario, not the Jazz.
Did well the last time they executed a trade to move up...
With respect to the others, if youre expecting all stars with late 20 picks then of course you're going to think the Spurs have a poor track record. In context I think they've done quite well.
Ah, I totally think that's right! It must be weird to hear the actual selection. I would hate to have my job decided by 20 year olds getting obscene money after not having much before the NBA.
Fall your knees, look to the heavens and bawl, "it shoulda been Parker".I will go full New York Knicks fan
I hope when the Spurs pick that they show me and I will do the thing where I point to my hat and mouth "I like that pick - good pick" so it seems like I know what I'm doing.
Also, even though SA didn't have a pick, how was your experience at the draft you went to?
I think the Spurs would have a lot more hard time giving up Green than they did when they traded George Hill. Green was pretty much our third best player in the post season, unlike Hill who was pretty bad in the Memphis series in 2011.
Spurs are in win now like back in 2011 when they traded for Kawhi, and I trust in the Spurs that whichever player they get he will help us win now, and in the future no matter who is gone.
Do your magic R.C. if you pull the trigger!
Lol people probably said the same thing about Manu
I like it
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