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Lebron is great, and everyone is gonna post stats. And hes still undeniably the greatest player in the NBA right now. But hes no Jordan. 6>>>3
First off, congrats to Lebron James bringing at le to Cleveland, for the fans. Not for him, personally Golden State folded like a Trump commentary post debate. Trying to ask: Can Lebron pass MJ as the greatest of all time?, is similar to asking if Alex Rodriguez deserves a HOF plaque. The answer is simple: No. Michael Jordan would have ate up and spit out Lebron. His mental toughness is miles ahead of Lebron's. He won with teams that outside of Pippen and perhaps Grant, lacked anything more than role players. Jordan wouldn't lose to Dallas in 2012, in fact he would have buried them. Furthermore, the futility of Lebron needed to be surrounded by stars, furthermore postures to his ego, and inability to do it on his own. I'm not a Lebron hater, he's one of the most physically gifted point forwards of all time. He's the closest thing to Oscar Robertson in his lifetime. But, there are intangibles that wouldn't even come close. Lebron is an athlete, Jordan is a basketball player. Okay, rant over. No one will ever touch Jordan, Kobe couldn't and there is no damn chance that James is even worth more than debate in the top five argument. He's 3-6 in his championships. While he's gotten to the dance multiple times he plays in a weaker conference. His team wouldn't make it past San Antonio, OKC and other teams that play fundamental basketball.
Lebron is great, and everyone is gonna post stats. And hes still undeniably the greatest player in the NBA right now. But hes no Jordan. 6>>>3
Does it really matter? Jordan was the be all end all in the 90's, he runs off 3 straight goes and plays baseball, comes back and wins 3 straight. That's amazing.. But going to the finals 6 times straight regardless if it's a weak conference is pretty awesome. Both great players, both deserve to be in the top 10 of almost everyone's list. MJ will be considered top 1-3 for almost everyone and Lebron will creep into 1-5 for most.
The debate isn't if he's a top five all-time NBA player, the debate is "top" go getter of all time. Comparing apples and oranges is great, but the differences are miles long. Lebron James is playing in such a weak Eastern Conference, it doesn't compare to the mid-nineties compe ion. I just am incensed by the belief that he's even better than Kobe Bryant. Who did win it on the back of Shaq, however is still a better all around basketball player. I can agree that Lebron James is easily a top five all time talent.
The compe ion is for second place, folks. It's a pretty distant second at that.
The joke is that Kobe's name is still mentioned.
I'd take Lebron over Jordan, especially now that James has figured out how to live up to the moment. I think things are completely different for Michael had he come into the league in 2003 or even 1996.
There is no debate. LeBron is the GOAT. Dad Killer is an overrated chucker who needed an obscene amount of help just to win playoff series, let alone rings.
Lebron James is the only player out of those 2 that you mentioned Jordan and Kobe to carry a team to a finals by himself and realistically carry teams to WCF for several years by himself. Outside of the Pistons at the beginning of Jordans amazing run there were not a whole lot of great teams in the east for Jordan to challenge himself against. Kobe as a solo act was atrocious even going as far as to say he wanted to be traded if he didn't get help.
How many rings would Timmy have if the Spurs played in the East?
Lebron has always had the talent to be GOAT but hadnt utilized it in the best way. He finally did. And people always talk about scoring when comparing athletes but Lebron rebounded and blocked shots too. Its Lebrons time, just go with it.
I will say though that Warrior type b-ball is not effective in playoffs.
Theyd still have to go through the Lakers.
The Spurs could play in the D-League and Enrique would still take a few out of the case.
The debate cannot be made in earnest until after Lebron has retired.
Yes they aren't as physical and Jordan would dominate anyone in this league. Are you a millennial, this might be the dumbest post I've seen in a while. The league is so much softer than it was in the 90's.
Well can't argue with that, tbh.
james is a mental midget compared to Jordan.
Jordan always exuded a determination to win that was both innate and insatiable. You could never count dat out.
He was the ultimate compe or, followed only by Duncan.
Jordan is still the GOAT but Lebron definitely moved up on the top 10 list. Anyways ESPN just looking to market and sell by pushing Lebron is the GOAT. They do this with every player when they win a le which is over exaggerate the players place in the history of the game. I guarantee 10 years from now they will be some new player ESPN will hype and scream "He's better than Lebron blah blah after winning this championship its clear blah blah has arrived."
Yeah, and it's moved away from post guards. Do you seriously think that someone who doesn't already have a superstar reputation is going to get away with bowling "soft" people over? This "soft vs tough" debate is idiotic. NBA players are better now than they were back then, and coaching is definitely better. The Triangle would get the kicked out of it now if anyone ran it as a primary offense. Just ask New York.
THIS.....
Also the Jordan vs Lebron talk is stupid. Won't be watching that station of ESPN....Only time will be the draft with the volume muted until the Spurs do something....
Very bad example considering the triangle in the last 30 years has never worked outside of a Phil Jackson run team and even Phil needed the best players in the world to run it. The triangle was even criticized during the 90's when other coaches tried to run it and failed miserably.
The Pistons used to make Dad Killer cry like the little he truly was. He needed to beg Stern to change the rules of the league to neuter them - the most made move ever.
"The ultimate compe or" - that schtick is almost as fraudulent for DK as it is with Kobe.
I agree with what most have stated, Jordan will always be the best.
I do find it funny that ESPN/media hasn't mentioned how much Cavs had to pay this year to win. They spent more than any other team by far so they better have won! Similar to the Nets, but they did it a few years too late with the older timers lol!
Haters gonna hate.
Lebron isnt the scorer that MJ was, but he's the greatest all-around-player of all time.
It's not working with Phil, either. It has good principles, but it emphasizes the wrong things, especially in today's NBA.
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