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I think you got your years wrong old man.
Yeah it was the chemistry not the fact that he sucked then, he sucks now and he will suck forever.
I think you got your years wrong old man.
The LMA, KL ISOs were, are not Spurs Basketball, are not good basketball.
Old man? GTFOHI think you got your years wrong old man.
You got them wrong. The Spurs won their last Championship in Calendar year 2014 but it was Season 2013.
2013 Championship
2014 Bounced by Clips in 1st round
2015 Bounced by Okc in 2nd round
2016 Season BEGINS October 2016.
C'mon young fella, its all about the details.
Hopefully Verde's shooting over 50% in the playoffs salvaged his trade value after ting the bed for the regular season. Trading him makes the most sense of we are going to bring in Durant as his starting job would be usurped.
That extra $10m plus cap room exception or whatever else they can maximize would allow us to make some significant moves.
Good thing they used him in pnr more than isolations then. His playmaking needs to improve as he looks for his shot to a fault but last year was his first in that role. He's gotten better every year. I see no reason why that wouldn't continue to get better too.
Glad I read more than the thread le. When I read that Danny blamed chemistry, my first thought was that Tim and Tony were on Ketamine during the OKC series.
danny is a loser. not much more to say.
The rings say otherwise got.
I expect the Spurs to shop Boris before Danny... but he's got a contract that could be good trade bait... the big elephant in the room is not really Boris though, but det other contract we're not going to move... c'est la vie...
I'm in bizzaro world today.
Assuming Green is back in form after what we saw in the playoffs, trading him would be foolish for anything other than a Durant-like name, tbh..his contract is way too team-friendly, especially with the cap rise..
Tony was on Chocolate Souffle..Glad I read more than the thread le. When I read that Danny blamed chemistry, my first thought was that Tim and Tony were on Ketamine during the OKC series.
They lost a lot of proven playoff performers.
Wow. Danny blaming chemistry gives us an insight into his way of thinking. This season for sure I thought there were issues of iden y in the team. He calls it chemistry, but to me, a more accurate description is iden y. The team not sure yet about how they want to play, specially the old big 3. It's not so much the new faces as it is the change in the style of play being so dramatic. There were absolutely no new faces last season (2015) except Anderson who was in the dleague and not bothering anyone and Reggie Williams who was a garbage time man strictly. It wasn't the new guys then either. It was the changes in role for others. Tony with not knowing when to defer or not and learning to play off a wing rather than Tim. Kawhi learning how to play himself as a main guy, not knowing when to pass and when to not pass, timing, using fakes etc. He was still learning how to impose his will while not freezing out teammates.
This season it was even a bit more odd as LMA is also a dominant post player and neither of them are great passers.
The bench was fine last season, but this season they also experienced changes. The exit of both Tiago and Baynes left them without a solid PnR big. D west was always a very awkward fit. And they clearly wanted to put more responsibility on Mills, who had the green light to shoot this season and was tasked with more playmaking than he previously had before, and who Pop tried to have running PnR with D west () They also had some guys who were scheduled to have very small roles and ended up playing a lot more due to so much garbage time and the latter part of the season being meaningless record wise.
The bench is also changing. POP was not ready to embrace a different style just yet (Boban? Using Anderson more as a playmaker instead of Mills?). That was too much too soon for Pop. Simmons? Next season I would expect changes in the bench style as well, very likely bc the personnel will change.
It wasn't so much chemistry as a lack of a defined iden y in what they wanted to do and the leaders in the respective SL or bench taking control as well as move the ball to get others involved.
By the way thanks for sharing!!!
Well if we compare D west to Tiago... If Tiago was healthy, I am taking Tiago.
You should blame Pop for playing a past-his-prime rebound-challenged unathletic PF at center.I thought it was common knowledge that we were blaming David West for this season's debacle
Green, Parker and Ginobili are the only people in the Spurs organization that give us anything to discuss, in regards to internal thoughts/feelings of the team, don't take it for granted
Agree with you about the iden y problem. But if a 30 years old guy with 6 years on the team talks about chemistry, I'd pay attention to his words.
In the whole season we saw just a few times Kawhi-LMA two-man game, Pop didn't call plays to develop the chemistry between the two main scorers of the team, they didn't work like a tandem, like Westbrook-Durant, Curry-Thompson, LeBron-Irving...Also, the chemistry between LMA/Kawhi and the shooters on the court wasn't great.
Pop didn't expect to win it all in 2016, it seemed like he took the season as a transition year, expecting to complete the team with a FA big name like Durant in the offseason...Hopefully they can sign that guy because the Spurs plan B is looking bad.
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Yeah, actually Gino mentioned chemistry being phenomenal with this group, one of the reasons it's still probable he might come back for one more season... kinda puzzling compared to what Danny said, but Danny I think was talking more about change of playing style and personnel rather than chemistry and camaraderie itself...Green, Parker and Ginobili are the only people in the Spurs organization that give us anything to discuss, in regards to internal thoughts/feelings of the team, don't take it for granted
^^probably strictly on the court..
They seem to have great chemistry off the court, based on all the posts, photos, etc..
^^ The bench had a lot of chemistry on the court, they just didn't have a single guy who could finish in the paint against the OKC frontline. They had their own issues of fit as guys were played out of position or outside their ideal roles.
The starters did have issues with roles and fit as well, but if only Timmy had been a year younger it wouldn't have mattered.
Glad at least Danny wasn't happy with his own regular season performance. If anything he might have been talking about himself and his own chemistry problems with the system changes.
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