Warriors: LMAO The Greatest Choke in History of Sport

[da_suns_fan]

That just makes it WORSE. Exponentially worse.

Now Warriors fans will forever wonder "what could've been" if Draymond didn't throw a tantrum and hit Lebron in the nuts.

I'm glad you mentioned that. Now it really settles it

That makes zero sense but youre not even trying anymore.

I'll take that as a yield.

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Playing for damn near 50 seasons and you somehow have nothing to show for it....

That's a pretty big choke too.

They were selling your .

[da_suns_fan]

They were selling your .

He's got a point, actually.

[Silver&Black]

6-1, actually.

And Kawhi and Ginobili both choked. And the entire team choked on defensive glass twice. One rebound or one free throw.

I think you're missing a huge point here. NOBODY here (And I think I speak for the majority of Spurs fans) is saying that the Spurs didn't choke in game 6. I think you're getting the idea that most of us are saying that 6 really wasn't that big of a deal. We chokedPERIOD. It was one of the biggest chokes in NBA history.

I just happen to think that having a 3-1 lead with 2 games at home (a place where they went 39-2 during the regular season) is the bigger choke.

But, but they were missing their 2nd best player in game 5

Whose ing fault is that? I guess you're going to blame the Spurs for that one too....

[Silver&Black]

They were selling your .

I'm going to bar you from entering my reading room if you keep it up...

[midnightpulp]

That makes zero sense but youre not even trying anymore.

I'll take that as a yield.

Nope. We got closure. GS will never get closure.

It'll always be:

"What if Draymond didn't get suspended?"

[midnightpulp]

They were selling your .

You've been continuously salty since State pulled off the biggest choke in NBA history.

It's because 6 is a long forgotten memory and media and fans will forever remember State's collapse. We won't even be a footnote, and it has you snortin'.

[Chillen]

Yes, this is the biggest chokejob in NBA history for sure. 73-9, up 3-1 in NBA finals and they choke it. Previously it was Spurs in game 6 of the 2013 NBA finals, but this sure tops it and it will stay that way for quite awhile. Though LeBron vs the Warriors really after game 4 went in all out GOAT mode. No team could stop that, but a choke is a choke.

[da_suns_fan]

I think you're missing a huge point here. NOBODY here (And I think I speak for the majority of Spurs fans) is saying that the Spurs didn't choke in game 6. I think you're getting the idea that most of us are saying that 6 really wasn't that big of a deal. We chokedPERIOD. It was one of the biggest chokes in NBA history.

I just happen to think that having a 3-1 lead with 2 games at home (a place where they went 39-2 during the regular season) is the bigger choke.

But, but they were missing their 2nd best player in game 5

Whose ing fault is that? I guess you're going to blame the Spurs for that one too....

Not at all..but it certainly makes it less shocking that they lost considering they didnt have him for game 5. You lose game 6 and it becomes do-or-die for both teams and they always say "anything can happen in a game seven".

Thus the Ginobili/Rebound/Kawhi/Rebound debacle was worse. The Spurs had to screw up on five straight offensive/defensive possessions with the championship on the line.

Looking back at both series, its clearer to me that the Spurs squandered the biggest opportunity.

[midnightpulp]

I think you're missing a huge point here. NOBODY here (And I think I speak for the majority of Spurs fans) is saying that the Spurs didn't choke in game 6. I think you're getting the idea that most of us are saying that 6 really wasn't that big of a deal. We chokedPERIOD. It was one of the biggest chokes in NBA history.

I just happen to think that having a 3-1 lead with 2 games at home (a place where they went 39-2 during the regular season) is the bigger choke.

But, but they were missing their 2nd best player in game 5

Whose ing fault is that? I guess you're going to blame the Spurs for that one too....

It is. Biggest choke in NBA history. Every fan and media outlet from California to NY agrees. Only the Massive Dumb and Cully think our choke was bigger because of their eternal hatred of the Spurs.

[midnightpulp]

Not at all..but it certainly makes it less shocking that they lost considering they didnt have him for game 5. You lose game 6 and it becomes do-or-die for both teams and they always say "anything can happen in a game seven".

Thus the Ginobili/Rebound/Kawhi/Rebound debacle was worse. The Spurs had to screw up on five straight offensive/defensive possessions with the championship on the line.

Looking back at both series, its clearer to me that the Spurs squandered the biggest opportunity.

Draymond losing his cool and getting suspended, fully knowing he was on thin ice with NBA officials after the OKC series, is a perfect example of the kind of mental meltdown that defines "choke."

And what's worse, it was an action totally unrelated to the game. Draymond didn't get outhustled for a rebound, miss a FT, etc. It was something he was perfectly capable of controlling.

Like I said, it just makes the Warriors situation exponentially worse.

[hitmanyr2k]

Warriors had the biggest choke of all-time considering the cir stances. 73-9 record, 3-1 lead, arrogant team from top to bottom talking in the media. When you have THREE chances to close it out with two of those games at home and still fail with the last game not being able to score a point in the last 5 minutes of the game there's not much more you can say lol.

[baseline bum]

2) 5 point lead and a man on the line to extend to seven with 28 seconds to go. Win and you get the championship.

That never happened.

[Silver&Black]

The Spurs had to screw up on five straight offensive/defensive possessions with the championship on the line.

Did you even watch game 7

Warriors didn't score the last 4 1/2 minutes of the game. How many straight possessions is that "with the championship on the line"?

Literally everything you mention about the Spurs choking....the Warriors did it better. Just stop it dude.

[midnightpulp]

Did you even watch game 7

Warriors didn't score the last 4 1/2 minutes of the game. How many straight possessions is that "with the championship on the line"?

Literally everything you mention about the Spurs choking....the Warriors did it better. Just stop it dude.

Yep. I crunched the numbers. The odds of the Warriors going scoreless for the last 4 and half minutes per the amount of shots they took and who took them was 1500 to 1

The chain of events during the last 28.2 seconds in game 6 (missed FTs, two straight offensive rebounds, made 3s) had odds of 400 to 1.

[Silver&Black]

Yep. I crunched the numbers. The odds of the Warriors going scoreless for the last 4 and half minutes per the amount of shots they took and who took them was 1500 to 1

The chain of events during the last 28.2 seconds in game 6 (missed FTs, two straight offensive rebounds, made 3s) had odds of 400 to 1.

What do the numbers say about this?

Game 5 4th Q points: 13
Game 7 4th Q points: 13

What are the chances that the Warriors have their 2 worst 4th quarters the entire season in back to back home games? With the championship on the line

[Mnky]

Thats not what I asked.

I said which position would your rather be in.

Would you trade a 3-1 series lead for 5 point lead (and man on line for two) with 28 seconds left. If so, then obviously Spurs are the worst choke in the history of the sport.

Sorry monospulp. It is what it is.

I would take a 3-1 lead with home court advantage anyday. You're kidding right? Thirty seconds compared to 3 games against an inferior team? The probability in a 3 game cushion is much more likely to work out than having a 2 shot lead.

That being said, the spurs were also the inferior team that year and should have never been in a position to win. The heat had been playing horrible to that point. They should have had that's series locked up before 6. Game 7 was much closer to reality of the teams qualities.

[da_suns_fan]

Draymond losing his cool and getting suspended, fully knowing he was on thin ice with NBA officials after the OKC series, is a perfect example of the kind of mental meltdown that defines "choke."

And what's worse, it was an action totally unrelated to the game. Draymond didn't get outhustled for a rebound, miss a FT, etc. It was something he was perfectly capable of controlling.

Like I said, it just makes the Warriors situation exponentially worse.

Umm...no.

Choking involves players buckling/caving to the pressure. The anxiety causes them not to be able to perform as they normally would.

Green wasnt under pressure when he screwed up. The game was over. It wasnt the pressure of the situation, it was just his usually temper.

Ginobili and Leonard both choked under pressure. Especially Leonard. You could see it on his face that it was too much for him.

[da_suns_fan]

Did you even watch game 7

Warriors didn't score the last 4 1/2 minutes of the game. How many straight possessions is that "with the championship on the line"?

Literally everything you mention about the Spurs choking....the Warriors did it better. Just stop it dude.

Except defense.

The Cavs only scored four points in the last four minutes themselves. No one besides Kyrie Irving hit a shot in the last four minutes.

Spurs have to have just one good offensive or defensive possession and they blew it 5 times in a row.

[JoeTait75]

I don't even know if what happened to San Antonio in Game 6 even qualifies as a "choke." A five-point lead really isn't all that big, even with under 30 seconds to play. A couple of three-pointers sandwiched around a free throw- that's all it is. Not much. And it isn't as if the Spurs did anything egregious in that stretch. They missed a couple of free throws but there were no awful turnovers, no Nick Anderson-type meltdowns at the line- they failed to grab a couple of rebounds and Miami hit a couple of big shots. Earlier this season the Cavaliers had a four-point lead on the Celtics with ten seconds left and wound up losing when they gave up an and-one, failed to secure the rebound off the missed free throw and Avery Bradley hit a three-pointer at the buzzer. Things like that happen sometimes in basketball.

What doesn't happen is a 73-win team blowing a 3-1 lead while losing its last two games at home. That's almost impossible to comprehend. I'd like to believe the Cavaliers won it more than the Warriors lost it, but when you lose a series like that, under those cir stances, that's a choke for the ages.

[Silver&Black]

I'm done.

You're just digging the hole deeper and deeper now....basically giving us the ammunition.

The Warriors couldn't overcome that 1 Cleveland FG over the last 4 1/2 minutes.

[da_suns_fan]

I don't even know if what happened to San Antonio in Game 6 even qualifies as a "choke." A five-point lead really isn't all that big, even with under 30 seconds to play. A couple of three-pointers sandwiched around a free throw- that's all it is. Not much. And it isn't as if the Spurs did anything egregious in that stretch. They missed a couple of free throws but there were no awful turnovers, no Nick Anderson-type meltdowns at the line- they failed to grab a couple of rebounds and Miami hit a couple of big shots. Earlier this season the Cavaliers had a four-point lead on the Celtics with ten seconds left and wound up losing when they gave up an and-one, failed to secure the rebound off the missed free throw and Avery Bradley hit a three-pointer at the buzzer. Things like that happen sometimes in basketball.

What doesn't happen is a 73-win team blowing a 3-1 lead while losing its last two games at home. That's almost impossible to comprehend. I'd like to believe the Cavaliers won it more than the Warriors lost it, but when you lose a series like that, under those cir stances, that's a choke for the ages.

Youre forgetting both Ginobili and Kawhi missed free throws.

And they gave up offensive rebounds two possessions in a row. I didnt even realize how bad Kawhi choked till reading this from grantland:

The ball found Kawhi Leonard first. He’d been brilliant all series, playing a stretch 4 and bothering LeBron despite battling ongoing discomfort in his left knee. The team’s doctors declared that Leonard’s knee needed rest, but San Antonio needed Leonard’s athleticism too much. He played through pain for the entire playoffs. Later that summer, Erik Spoelstra told me that Miami charted Leonard’s rebounds during those seven games — somehow, he caught every rebound that touched his fingers except for two. This was one of the two. Famous for his gargantuan hands, Leonard couldn’t swing those oversize mitts up fast enough.

As Leonard fumbled for a second chance, Dwyane Wade soared in and tipped the ball away, looking like a cornerback breaking up a touchdown catch. The basketball popped up perfectly, as if an invisible referee threw everyone a jump ball. Leonard, Manu Ginobili and Boris Diaw pursued, all arriving from different directions, all of them practically colliding in air.

[spursistan]

I don't even know if what happened to San Antonio in Game 6 even qualifies as a "choke." A five-point lead really isn't all that big, even with under 30 seconds to play. A couple of three-pointers sandwiched around a free throw- that's all it is. Not much. And it isn't as if the Spurs did anything egregious in that stretch. They missed a couple of free throws but there were no awful turnovers, no Nick Anderson-type meltdowns at the line- they failed to grab a couple of rebounds and Miami hit a couple of big shots. Earlier this season the Cavaliers had a four-point lead on the Celtics with ten seconds left and wound up losing when they gave up an and-one, failed to secure the rebound off the missed free throw and Avery Bradley hit a three-pointer at the buzzer. Things like that happen sometimes in basketball.

What doesn't happen is a 73-win team blowing a 3-1 lead while losing its last two games at home. That's almost impossible to comprehend. I'd like to believe the Cavaliers won it more than the Warriors lost it, but when you lose a series like that, under those cir stances, that's a choke for the ages.

not to mention 2014 le and the way it was accomplished took the sting forever from 6.

[Silver&Black]

I don't even know if what happened to San Antonio in Game 6 even qualifies as a "choke." A five-point lead really isn't all that big, even with under 30 seconds to play. A couple of three-pointers sandwiched around a free throw- that's all it is. Not much. And it isn't as if the Spurs did anything egregious in that stretch. They missed a couple of free throws but there were no awful turnovers, no Nick Anderson-type meltdowns at the line- they failed to grab a couple of rebounds and Miami hit a couple of big shots. Earlier this season the Cavaliers had a four-point lead on the Celtics with ten seconds left and wound up losing when they gave up an and-one, failed to secure the rebound off the missed free throw and Avery Bradley hit a three-pointer at the buzzer. Things like that happen sometimes in basketball.

What doesn't happen is a 73-win team blowing a 3-1 lead while losing its last two games at home. That's almost impossible to comprehend. I'd like to believe the Cavaliers won it more than the Warriors lost it, but when you lose a series like that, under those cir stances, that's a choke for the ages.

It was a choke considering the situation. Game 6 of the NBA Finals...30 seconds away from the LOBT....that's got all the makings for a choke. Sure, 5 point leads evaporate in the NBA in waaaay less time than 30 seconds...it's just rarely happens in a NBA Finals game.

I do agree with the 2nd paragraph though. It's almost impossible to comprehend that Warriors choke.

[da_suns_fan]

During that now-fateful timeout with San Antonio up five, Jalen Rose and I watched NBA officials wheel the Larry O’Brien Trophy into the runway to our right. It couldn’t have been farther than 15 feet from us. We watched security guards assume positions around the court, and we watched Heat employees hastily sticking up yellow rope around the courtside seats. Like they were cordoning off a homicide scene. Even after LeBron’s second-gasp 3, I still thought we were going home. Some Heat fans had already trickled out. We watched them leave in disbelief. How could the Basketball Gods reward … that?

After Miller fouled Leonard with 19.4 seconds left, he strolled impassively to the free throw line, with Miami’s rejuvenated crowd suffocating him with boos and screams. I remember thinking, Forget about making these free throws — I wonder if this kid is hitting the rim.

Later:

I declared that no NBA team had ever come closer to winning a le without actually winning a le, which I hoped was true. (It was.)

http://grantland.com/features/nba-fi...-6-heat-spurs/

Maybe Bill Simmons will come out and say the Warriors were closer to a le than the Spurs were (but I doubt it).

I think Ive proven my point.