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    ^ The whole Rockets team was horrible. They all clearly quit on one another long time ago. Talent alone got them that 8 seed. Howard isn't disgusting. But you wouldn't touch him with a big contract.

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    Take this for what it is. Jay Bilas saying SA trying to move up to 13 ( Suns).

    Only thing that makes some sense is Tyson Chandler +13th pick for Diaw/Mills. Would be awesome if Spurs can get the 34th pick too.

    Suns get to wipe TC's contract off their books and go after two big free agents this summer. Spurs get pricey, but defensive center they need and get the 13th pick.
    Chandler would be a great fit next to LMA, and we could probably draft Wade Baldwin at 13. Interesting.

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    Sean Elliott Verified account ‏@seanelliott_32

    Stopped by the practice facility and found Jessie James Leija & crew holding court, my body's toast #spurs #oldman


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    Bring back Sean imo. Can't be any worse than Porker or Bonner.

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    Would rather go after Nikola Jokic but don't think Denver would be willing to give him up.
    I like Jokic much better than Faried but agreed, Denver isn't giving him up.

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    $12 M for an all-star seems acceptable to me.
    You get $12 million and can't put up 20-10, beyond acceptable

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    Howard is not a mac player, especially with his Injury history. His character quality is very immature for his age as well. Besides that though, he would be a formidable pairing with LMA and kawhi. That would be a of a defense to score down low on. Howard also, despite the general view, is a good down low post scorer simply because he runs the court and is good at getting position. He played well against golden state even when the team quit. Bogut, arguably the best defensive center, had fits with him. He won't be matching up against guys stronger than him too often. He can still rebound and defend at a high level.

    That being said, nor very likely option, but wouldnt be the worse. Any help for LMA would make this team much better. He was a one man front court against the thunder.

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    Scott Howard-Cooper ‏@SHowardCooper

    Some interest around the league in Ben McLemore of the Kings. Teams know he is available and are calling. Not necessarily connected to picks

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    Lets trade up for Bender.

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    ace3g - I guess that means Timmy is working out with Jessie James Leija again this summer?

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    ^ Very possible he was there. He always mentioned boxing was part of the path to get in better shape and stay compe ive at the tail end of his career.

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    Parker/Baldwin/MCW
    Green/Simmons/Manu
    Leonard/Anderson/Bertans
    Aldridge/West/Milutinov
    Chandler/Marjanovic/Duncan

    Wouldn't be a serious contender in 2017 (development year), but for 2018 and beyond that's an intriguing squad. Not sure what we'd trade to get MCW if Mils goes to the Suns, but I'm sure something could be found.

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    Lets trade up for Bender.
    He averaged 8 minutes and 2 points last year, no lol

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    Parker/Baldwin/MCW
    Green/Simmons/Manu
    Leonard/Anderson/Bertans
    Aldridge/West/Milutinov
    Chandler/Marjanovic/Duncan

    Wouldn't be a serious contender in 2017 (development year), but for 2018 and beyond that's an intriguing squad. Not sure what we'd grade to get MCW if Mils goes to the Suns, but I'm sure something could be found.
    Spurs could get Bogdanovic and 34th too in Chandler trade.

    They could then turn around and sign Conley and trade TP to MEM.

    Assuming TD/MG retire:

    Conley/ Baldwin (13th/ GPII (34th)
    Green/Bogdanovic or Simmons
    Kawhi/Bertans or Anderson
    Aldridge/? FA (West, Lance Thomas, Quincy Acy) or 29th pick (Robert Carter, Zizic, Brice Johnson, Maker, Onauku)
    Chandler/ Boban/ FA (Plumlee)

    Spurs can make Simmons or Anderson expendable and get something back -- if they bring over Bertans, Hanga, or if hypothetical Chandler trade happens, and they bring over Bogdanovic too.

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    Spurs could get Bogdanovic and 34th too in Chandler trade.

    They could then turn around and sign Conley and trade TP to MEM.

    Assuming TD/MG retire:

    Conley/ Baldwin (13th/ GPII (34th)
    Green/Bogdanovic or Simmons
    Kawhi/Bertans or Anderson
    Aldridge/? FA (West, Lance Thomas, Quincy Acy) or 29th pick (Robert Carter, Zizic, Brice Johnson, Maker, Onauku)
    Chandler/ Boban/ FA (Plumlee)

    Spurs can make Simmons or Anderson expendable and get something back -- if they bring over Bertans, Hanga, or if hypothetical Chandler trade happens, and they bring over Bogdanovic too.
    I've accepted that they're probably not trading TP, and he'd not be a bad guy to have around to mentor young PGs and play 6th man once one of them takes over.

    I think it's worth giving Simmons and Anderson another year to see what they have.

    I think the broader point is that we've got more options than it appeared at first. I really hope the FA goes with a youth movement, and having Timmy and Manu along to mentor for one final season wouldn't hurt.

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    If the Spurs get a meeting with Durant, you cannot gimp your chance by trading for bloody Chandler. You go into that meeting with a couple of salary packages.

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    TD tried to recruit Howard a few years back. Obviously there wasn't even a meeting so it was a long shot. I couldn't think of a center to pair up with LMA that isn't more perfect than Howard (other than the max guys like Whiteside). However, I hate Howard's hands (they are terrible). He won't be catching Manu passers.
    Really? I don't recall TD or the Spurs ever trying to recruit Howard. You sure it wasn't Josh Howard you're referring to .

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    Chandler Parsons To Opt Out

    June 21st 2016 at 10:17pm CST by Eddie Scarito

    Mavericks small forward Chandler Parsons has decided to opt out of his deal and hit free agency this summer, Tim MacMahon of ESPN.com reports (ESPN Now link).

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    TD tried to recruit Howard a few years back. Obviously there wasn't even a meeting so it was a long shot. I couldn't think of a center to pair up with LMA that isn't more perfect than Howard (other than the max guys like Whiteside). However, I hate Howard's hands (they are terrible). He won't be catching Manu passers.
    We are so ing lucky that D Howard didn't come here.

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    Really? I don't recall TD or the Spurs ever trying to recruit Howard. You sure it wasn't Josh Howard you're referring to .
    No dwight.

    http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...+Dwight+Howard

    The original source is now gone, but here is the letter http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=250566

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    We are so ing lucky that D Howard didn't come here.
    I wonder. The influence of Duncan, Pop and previous success might have changed him.

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    Chandler Parsons To Opt Out


    June 21st 2016 at 10:17pm CST by Eddie Scarito

    Mavericks small forward Chandler Parsons has decided to opt out of his deal and hit free agency this summer, Tim MacMahon of ESPN.com reports (ESPN Now link).
    Maverick possibly blowing it up? I know Dirk has stated he wants to retire a Maverick but he didn't want to be in a rebuild situation...

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    Or is he going to re-sign for less money to give the Mavs some cap space? I don't see Cuban blowing it up. He'll try to piece together some to think they can make one last run for Dirk.

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    Milos Teodosic interested in coming over to the NBA:

    http://www.eurohoops.net/featured/26...ke-to-play-for



    He played for Messina before and I'm sure that Boban will have nothing but good things to say about the Spurs. He's still "only" 29 years old and comes off the best season of his career which included winning the Euroleague.

    His style of play is similar to Manu, great passer with a knack for crazy shots but also quite bad on defense. His shooting percentages this year have been very good: 47.9% FG%, 42.5% 3P% (with 5.38 3PA per game), 89.1% FT%.

    The question is what kind of salary he would command. Right now he is one of the best paid players in Europe, so you can't expect him to over on a minimum deal like Boban did.
    Here's an older article saying that it would take $3M+: http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap...To-Come-To-NBA
    He's a great player but his game is very unlikely to fit in the NBA, he strikes me as a Navarro/V-Span type who is great for Europe but not for the NBA, where their limitations would be exploitable. He struggles a lot against elite athleticism, even in Europe. His stats look great but he also averages 5+ turnovers per 40 and that's against much less athletic opponents and at 29 he's everything he's ever going to be. Unless it's for the min or close to it, which we know he's not taking, it'd be a huge risk for NBA teams to get him.

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