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    Putting support != putting their money

    My point is even with all the mess, its still a tight race and it will go down to the wire

    shillary
    People thought Obama Vs. Romney would go down to the wire and how did that turn out?

    Trump is not winning Florida and Virginia, with both states having more than 1/3 of their populations Black/Asian/Hispanic. Even if Trump holds the red states he would have no chance of winning.

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    Putting support != putting their money

    My point is even with all the mess, its still a tight race and it will go down to the wire

    shillary
    This is a tight race? What polls and data are you looking at? In fact, Republicans are at risk of losing deep red states that would never go blue in any other circustance.

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    breaking news of the Donald Trump campaign's latest FEC filing showing a shockingly weak war chest.
    The campaign reports a meager $1.3M cash-on-hand, and $3.2M raised.

    the Sanders campaign filed their monthly report as well:
    $9.2M cash-on-hand
    $16.4M raised

    TRMS



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    is the Trump presidential campaign just an over-elaborate bank heist?

    Trump was the chairman of Trump Hotels and Casino Resorts in Atlantic City from 1995 to 2009, his only outing as the head of a major public company.

    During that time, the company lost more than $1 billion, financial records show.

    He also was chief executive from 2000 to 2005, during which time share prices plunged from a high of $35 to as low as 17 cents.

    Trump may have helmed the company bearing his name to penny-stock status, but he himself did exceedingly well. He got $44 million in salary. He charged the company additional "fees" for his services. The company paid for the $2 million care and feeding of his personal jet, and so on, and so on.

    To say Trump has no remorse about the cratering of the company he helmed would be, if anything, an understatement:


    He expounded: “They say, ‘Why don’t you take the casinos public or something?’ You know, if you take them public, you make money on that. All I can say is I wasn’t representing the country. I wasn’t representing the banks. I wasn’t representing anybody but myself.”

    All right, so Trump created a public company and then charged it exuberantly for his every involvement. That's not terribly surprising. But the Washington Post piece hints at the serious possibility that the public company became a dumping ground for Trump's other debt:

    Trump offloaded his failing efforts onto the stockholders, while he himself basked in stockholder-provided cash and perks.


    When it debuted that year on the New York Stock Exchange, Trump’s company raised $140 million from investors, at $14 a share, and said the money would go toward expanding the Plaza and developing a riverboat casino in Indiana.

    But much of that money went to pay off tens of millions of dollars in loans Trump had personally guaranteed, filings show.

    Those loans were taken out before the company went public, but Trump’s private fortune could have been at risk if they went unpaid.

    That was only the beginning:

    In less than a year, the company paid premium prices for two of Trump’s deeply indebted, privately held casinos, the Trump Taj Mahal and the Trump Castle.

    In essence, he was both buyer and seller, able to set whatever price he wanted.

    The company bought his Castle for $100 million more than analysts said it was worth.

    Trump pocketed $880,000 in cash after arranging the deal, financial filings show.

    By the end of 1996, shareholders who had bet on a rosy Trump future were now investors in a company with $1.7 billion of Trump’s old debt.

    The company was forced to spend hundreds of millions of dollars a year on interest payments, more than the casinos brought in [...]

    And that, to make a short story shorter, was the beginning of the end. Trump had taken millions from the company and in exchange, his stockholders were saddled with two near-defunct Trump properties at inflated prices. The company would continue to pay Trump handsomely for the next decade while struggling under those debts and others—such as purchasing Trump-branded bottled water for their patrons and paying Trump $6 million in "entertainment" fees for hosting company clients on his jet and golf courses—before eventually having its stock frozen, then delisted.

    So that is the story of how Donald Trump survived the collapse of his two privately held casinos,

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/0...28Daily+Kos%29


    Trash is nothing but a classic con man, a superb demagogue, fraud, fake, huckster.




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    Trump did not kill people Clinton did

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    Trump did not kill people Clinton did
    Hillary didn't kill anyone.

    Trump got a baby

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    Hillary didn't kill anyone.

    Trump got a baby
    She lied and got people killed

    Trump has big balls to start some of the businesses he has done

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    She lied and got people killed

    Trump has big balls to start some of the businesses he has done
    Are you saying he pisses on his balls?

    Hillary will win by a landslide. People don't care about Benghazi, sad that that's the only dirt cuckservatives have

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    Kids with speech impediments end up like this.

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    All these investigations of Hillary and yet... Not a sane person would put his money on Trump winning it all

    He's that bad
    Fixed it for you.

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    Hillary didn't kill anyone.

    Trump got a baby
    When people say that they aren't talking about Benghazi, but about Hillary's illegal foreign wars for gold, oil, and power.

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    I don't think Hillary really wanted to go to war in Iraq but instead her vote was a consequence of calculated thinking. She has always had her eye on the top job and she wanted to be seen as tough to separate herself from the GOP branding of all democrats as weak on the use of military force.

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    breaking news of the Donald Trump campaign's latest FEC filing showing a shockingly weak war chest.
    The campaign reports a meager $1.3M cash-on-hand, and $3.2M raised.

    the Sanders campaign filed their monthly report as well:
    $9.2M cash-on-hand
    $16.4M raised

    TRMS


    How is Sanders still raising any money at this point? Automatic monthly donations that people have forgotten to stop renewing?

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    I don't think Hillary really wanted to go to war in Iraq but instead her vote was a consequence of calculated thinking. She has always had her eye on the top job and she wanted to be seen as tough to separate herself from the GOP branding of all democrats as weak on the use of military force.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...inton-anymore/

    You sexist pig

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    The reason Hillary Clinton is so polarizing is because her ambitions inevitably lead to a sense of en lement expressed through disingenuous, out-of-touch and insincere opinions.

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    Bachmann’s new gig: Trump adviser on evangelical issues

    No matter how much American politics have changed during this election cycle, one eternal truth remains: Republicans need evangelical voters.

    Even Donald Trump, the man of botched Bible verses and many wives, is making moves to win over conservative Christians.

    On Tuesday, he met with more than 1,000 mostly evangelical leaders, along with some Catholics, in a closed-to-the-press meeting in New York City.


    Big names – from former presidential candidate Ben Carson to the Liberty University President Jerry Falwell Jr. to the pollster George Barna – apparently spoke at the event, while Trump took pre-selected questions in a discussion moderated by the former presidential candidate and preacher Mike Huckabee.

    But while Trump has a number of vocal evangelical cheerleaders, and leaders gave him a hearing on Tuesday, many conservative Christians are still wary of the presumptive Republican nominee.

    Soon after, the Trump campaign announced the creation of a new “executive board convened to provide advisory support to Mr. Trump on those issues important to Evangelicals and other people of faith in America.” The name at the top of the list: Michele Bachmann.


    http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-s...d=sm_fb_maddow



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    The reason Hillary Clinton is so polarizing is because her ambitions inevitably lead to a sense of en lement expressed through disingenuous, out-of-touch and insincere opinions.

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    The reason Hillary Clinton is so polarizing is because her ambitions inevitably lead to a sense of en lement expressed through disingenuous, out-of-touch and insincere opinions.
    you ing misogynist


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    "Donald Trump apparently wants the presidential race to be about honesty.His brazen lies this morning proved why that's a spectacularly bad idea."

    Donald Trash gets lost beneath ‘an avalanche of falsehoods’


    Donald Trump called Hillary Clinton “a world class liar” who thinks she is “en led” to the presidency during a speech attacking his Democratic rival Wednesday.

    “Hillary Clinton may be the most corrupt person ever to seek the presidency of the United States,” Trump said in a speech at one of his properties in New York. […]

    “Her campaign slogan is ‘I’m with her,’” Trump said. “You know what my response to that is? I’m with you: the American people.”

    Right. Because if there’s one thing that’s obvious about Donald J. Trump, it’s that he isn’t a narcissist.


    Most of the attacks were predictable and clumsily delivered, but the most striking thing about this morning’s scripted address was its breathtaking dishonesty. In theory, if Clinton were as awful as Trump and Republicans claim, it should be fairly easy to deliver a speech condemning her using facts and real-world evidence.

    Instead, as Slate’s Jamelle Bouie put it, Trump leaned on “an avalanche of falsehoods.”

    It’s hard to even know where to start; the lie-to-sentence ratio approached one to one.

    Trump said he opposed the war in Iraq before the 2003 invasion, which isn’t true.

    He said Clinton’s email server was hacked, which isn’t true.

    Trump said Clinton wants “totally open borders” and an end to “virtually all immigration enforcement,” which isn’t even close to being true.


    Trump lied about Syrian refugees.

    He lied about the loan he received to start his business.

    He liedabout U.S. tax rates.

    He lied about Benghazi (more than once).

    He lied about the Clinton Foundation.

    He lied about gifts Clinton received during her tenure as Secretary of State.


    And really, this is just a sampling. If there had been a machine in the room that buzzed every time Trump said something untrue, the thing would have caught fire by the time the candidate wrapped up his remarks.

    Remember, if Trump had been speaking off the cuff, it might be easier to defend some of these obvious and demonstrable falsehoods; he and his allies might be able to say he got confused or lost his train of thought.

    But this was Trump reading on a teleprompter from a prepared text. In other words, Trumpdeliberately made a whole lot of claims that weren’t in any way true – all while accusing his rival of being a “liar.”

    By some measures, this morning’s ridiculous tirade should have been a disqualifying moment for Trump: it served as powerful evidence that the candidate is so disconnected from reality, he hardly understands what the truth is.


    If Trump is serious about turning this presidential race into a contest over which candidate is more honest, he should be prepared to lose every state.

    http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-s...d=sm_fb_maddow



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    ^^ Fact checking Trumps latest attack:

    Summary
    Donald Trump’s once delayed, and much anticipated, speech on Hillary Clinton’s character, included numerous false and misleading statements:
    http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/factch...cid=spartandhp

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    With a comical pandering session, Trump shows how irrelevant the Christian right has become to presidential politics

    Donald Trump could deliver them the most simplistic, insincere session of pandering they’ve ever witnessed.

    the Christian right has faded into nothingness. It now exists for nothing more than to be patted on the head and sent on its way with an encouragement to vote in November.

    a man who has divided their group with comments on women, immigrants and Islam. In his comments, the presumptive GOP presidential nominee said he would end the decades-old ban on tax-exempt groups’ — including churches — politicking,

    called religious liberty “the No. 1 question,” and promised to appoint antiabortion Supreme Court justices.


    “I think maybe that will be my greatest contribution to Christianity — and other religions — is to allow you, when you talk religious liberty, to go and speak openly, and if you like somebody or want somebody to represent you, you should have the right to do it,” Trump said.

    A ban was put in place by President Lyndon Johnson on tax-exempt groups making explicit political endorsements. Religious leaders in America today, Trump said, “are petrified.”

    Trump’s comically ham-handed appeal to these leaders — among other things, he apparently believes that someone passed a federal law forbidding the words “Merry Christmas” from being uttered, but he’s going to take care of that, believe me

    many evangelicals, particularly adherents of the “prosperity gospel,” which preaches that God wants you to be rich,
    ended up attracted to the least observant and most personally morally repugnant candidate in the race, because hey, he has his own plane and hates Muslims.

    The “missing” evangelical voters aren’t missing because they’ve turned away from worldly things; they’re missing because they’re Americans, and Americans only turn out at rates of 55 percent to 60 percent or so in presidential elections.

    give the overwhelming majority of their votes to Trump, not because they believe his occasional claims of devotion (they can’t possibly be that stupid), but simply because he’s a Republican.

    Trump is exactly the kind of candidate they deserve: one who’ll read off a list of pander points somebody prepared for him, then forget them as soon as he takes office.

    he made people like James Dobson and Franklin Graham feel, for a day, that they matter to this election.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...t-draw7&wpmm=1



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    Trump’s Scottish trip is a bigger mistake than he realizes


    But as the New York Times reported, the truth is a little more complicated.

    His campaign is desperately short of cash. He has struggled to hire staff. Influential Republicans are demanding that he demonstrate he can run a serious general election campaign.


    But, for reasons that emphasize just how unusual a candidate he is, Donald J. Trump is leaving the campaign trail on Thursday to travel to Scotland to promote a golf course his company purchased on the country’s southwestern coast.

    This may sound like some sort of joke, but it’s quite real. This isn’t a situation in which an American presidential hopeful has scheduled meetings with foreign officials, and he’s checking in on his business interests while he’s there; it’s largely the opposite. Trump’s Scottish sojourn appears to have practically nothing to do with the office he’s seeking.


    The Times report added that Trump’s business interests “still drive his behavior, and his schedule. He has planned two days in Scotland, with no meetings with government or political leaders scheduled.” The Republican’s itinerary “reads like a public relations junket crossed with a golf vacation,” complete with “a ceremonial ribbon cutting.”

    Scott W. Reed, senior political strategist for the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, added, “Everyone knows this is the wrong thing for the nominee to be doing now, and it is amazing this can’t be stopped.”

    The problem, as the Washington Post reported yesterday, is that the entire venture has been a bit of a disaster.


    [T]o many people in Scotland, his course here has been a failure.

    Over the past decade, Trump has battled with homeowners,

    elbowed his way through the planning process,

    shattered relationships with elected leaders and sued the Scottish government.

    On top of that, he has yet to fulfill the lofty promises he made.


    Trump has also reported to Scottish authorities that he lost millions of dollars on the project – even as he claims on U.S. presidential disclosure forms that the course has been highly profitable.



    Trash's golf course is simple "sick of winning"




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