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    With Hawks now having the #12 pick from Utah as well as the #23. I don't see how Spurs can get what they want.... unless #12 just happens to be a trade for Parker (unlikely).

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    Bobo/Mills and the 29th for the 12th pick?
    I don't think that's what they mean.

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    Green for 12...Mills for 21....

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    Tony Parker to back up Shroeder in the ATL for 12 and 21.. Come on RC
    Green + Mills for 12th, 21st, and Sef.

    12th-Tim Luwawu-Athletic SG- 3 and D with offensive upside. ( A bunch of bigs in that range as well)
    21st-Tarauren Prince-SF-Athletic 3 and D player with versatility on defense
    29th-Tyler Ulis-Floor general, and good shooter

    PG-Parker, FA, Ulis
    SG- Sef, Manu, Luwawu/Simmons
    SF- Leonard, Anderson, Prince, Bertans
    PF-LMA, West, Anderson
    C-FA, Boban

    Moving Green is not ideal but would allow the Spurs to get significantly younger and clear up additional cap space something like $4.5 million not including Duncan potentially retiring and Diaw being move or bought out
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    I don't think that's what they mean.
    alright my bad

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    That opens up 21 for a Mills trade...
    What part of "trying to free up space" do you not understand?

    They want to trade those picks to free up space to re-sign Horford and have 24 mil to throw at a big FA.

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    What part of "trying to free up space" do you not understand?

    They want to trade those picks to free up space to re-sign Horford and have 24 mil to throw at a big FA.
    I don't think the trade is to free up space...it's to acquire pieces to convince Horford to stay in Atl instead of signing elsewhere...

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    What part of "trying to free up space" do you not understand?
    Said nothing about cap space. This is getting into # territory.

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    Green + Mills for 12th, 21st, and Sef.

    Tim Luwawu-Athletic SG- 3 and D with offensive upside.
    Tarauren Prince-SF-Athletic 3 and D player with versatility on defense
    Tyler Ulis-Floor general, and good shooter

    PG-Parker, FA, Ulis
    SG-Sef/Luwawu/Simmons
    SF- Leonard, Anderson, Prince, Bertans
    PF-LMA, West, Anderson
    C-FA, Boban
    Would hate it. Anyway, what's with you and Prince?

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    Would hate it. Anyway, what's with you and Prince?
    Not big in to college ball but have heard a lot of good things about him , some of it from friends. Like the idea of Prince being a Spurs because of his versatility good athlete, very long, solid shooter and can board and seems like he can defend both wing spots could come in handy against the Thunder or the Warriors going forward.

    Another reason is I like the idea of Anderson at the four, assuming he can learn to shoot the 3 more consistently. He may not be ready for that for another year but I think Prince could help make that transition easier.

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    With Betans, why do people think the Spurs will go with two MORE rookies?

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    Project Spurs tweeted the Spurs were looking to move up to #13???

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    With Betans, why do people think the Spurs will go with two MORE rookies?
    Why not, probably a bit of a rebuilding year to get back to the WCF or finals. I think the team will look alot different, I welcome any changes outside of Leonard Aldridge.

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    Things are getting crazy, so screw it: Send Parker, Green, Diaw and #29 pick to Philly for #1. Welcome to SA, Mr. Ben Simmons.

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    Why not, probably a bit of a rebuilding year to get back to the WCF or finals. I think the team will look alot different, I welcome any changes outside of Leonard Aldridge.
    Not this team, this franchise, or this coach. Not with already having to run with bench guys like Simmons and Anderson last year that aren't even close to being proven.

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    I don't understand the play for Atlanta. Are they looking for cap or for a player?

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    Things are getting crazy, so screw it: Send Parker, Green, Diaw and #29 pick to Philly for #1. Welcome to SA, Mr. Ben Simmons.
    Yuck. Ben Simmons will be a bust. Major one. Maybe in 3 years he has a kind of jump shot and has versatility, but he's far from a sure thing as 1st picks go. I guess I am not high on him.

    Edit: I know you were joking but Simmons yuck!
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    Yuck. Ben Simmons will be a bust. Major one. Maybe in 3 years he has a kind of jump shot and has versatility, but he's far from a sure thing as 1st round picks go. I guess I am not high on him.

    Edit: I know you were joking but Simmons yuck!
    1. He's better than Anderson
    2. In a real league where the best players were kept, I agree 100% - my fear is that the younger the fans, the younger the draft entries the more the nba season and playoffs look like the nba all star games - which is staring to happen. I'm all about Lebum being a great athlete, but it makes me VOMIT when he has to proclaim his ty bbiq is really a great bbiq. He's dumb.

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    1. He's better than Anderson
    2. In a real league where the best players were kept, I agree 100% - my fear is that the younger the fans, the younger the draft entries the more the nba season and playoffs look like the nba all star games - which is staring to happen. I'm all about Lebum being a great athlete, but it makes me VOMIT when he has to proclaim his ty bbiq is really a great bbiq. He's dumb.
    We are talking about a 1st pick though. This has nothing to do with Anderson so I don't know why you even bring him up. He's not a franchise player.

    For a franchise player, Ben Simmons will bust that's the context.

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    We are talking about a 1st pick though. This has nothing to do with Anderson so I don't know why you even bring him up. He's not a franchise player.

    For a franchise player, Ben Simmons will bust that's the context.
    100% agree. This draft has no integral pieces that a team can build around.

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    We are talking about a 1st pick though. This has nothing to do with Anderson so I don't know why you even bring him up. He's not a franchise player.

    For a franchise player, Ben Simmons will bust that's the context.
    I think the argument about Anderson, and because it is basically a man very very very poor Ben Simmons. So if you believe that Kyle is going to be good or very good, your opinion of Simmons is strange (to say the least)

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    I think the argument about Anderson, and because it is basically a man very very very poor Ben Simmons. So if you believe that Kyle is going to be good or very good, your opinion of Simmons is strange (to say the least)
    Kyle was a 30th pick and for the spot he was picked I think we are getting great value and he has potential to exceed what we git from him even last season as he's just 22, and guys his age agree still entering the draft this season. Already in his draft year 2014, he's ahead of a lot of guys statistically to the point he's lottery level talent in that draft so far compared to other guys production. In that context he's actually exceeded expectations and may yet improve even more.

    In comparison, Simmons as the 1st pick in the draft has a different standard. He will not live up to expectations. There will be better players in this draft than him is my prediction and that will be visible a couple of years down the road. How is that for an explanation? It's a relative to the context of each guy.

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    I read that Kyle with athleticism and speed would be a pick lottery, Ben is all this is much more (is really a point forward, Kyle is a pg), so I guess impossible it fails in the league except injuries (however Hield will be the best player in this draft)

    but I understand your point. So here's a question: if you had to bet on who you think will be the best player in five years? Ben or Kyle?

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    I read that Kyle with athleticism and speed would be a pick lottery, Ben is all this is much more (is really a point forward, Kyle is a pg), so I guess impossible it fails in the league except injuries (however Hield will be the best player in this draft)

    but I understand your point. So here's a question: if you had to bet on who you think will be the best player in five years? Ben or Kyle?
    Better question - would you trade Kyle for Ben Straight up. Yes.

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    Better question - would you trade Kyle for Ben Straight up. Yes.
    as if thats even a question

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